[#27163] Statically linked extensions and deferred initialization. — Kent Dahl <kentda@...>

Hi.

12 messages 2001/12/01

[#27168] which editor is adviceful? — Niko Schwarz <niko.schwarz@...>

I know this always is the standard question for every language, but for

17 messages 2001/12/01

[#27191] OO AI — mentifex@... (Arthur T. Murray)

The road to supercomputer AI is paved with good inventions; visit

22 messages 2001/12/01

[#27265] John Roth dolt ( Re: A challenge to proponents of Unit Testing. ) — olczyk@... (Thaddeus L Olczyk)

Background.

166 messages 2001/12/02
[#27295] Re: John Roth dolt ( Re: A challenge to proponents of Unit Testing. ) — Ron Jeffries <ronjeffries@...> 2001/12/02

On Sat, 01 Dec 2001 13:46:42 GMT, olczyk@interaccess.com (Thaddeus L

[#28226] Re: John Roth dolt ( Re: A challenge to proponents of Unit Testing. ) — rbinder@... (Bob Binder) 2001/12/11

Keith Ray <k1e2i3t4h5r6a7y@1m2a3c4.5c6o7m> wrote in message news:<k1e2i3t4h5r6a7y-7C2620.18082110122001@news.attbi.com>...

[#27697] Re: John Roth dolt ( Re: A challenge to proponents of Unit Testing. ) — tadamsmar@... (Tom Adams) 2001/12/06

Ron Jeffries <ronjeffries@REMOVEacm.org> wrote in message news:<176717160028CE03.51B6AF6E20305FB5.2EC5DCFFD6C10DFD@lp.airnews.net>...

[#27958] Re: John Roth dolt ( Re: A challenge to proponents of Unit Testing. ) — "Robert C. Martin" <rmartin@...> 2001/12/08

On Sat, 08 Dec 2001 00:35:43 -0600, Robert C. Martin <rmartin @

[#27287] New RubyGarden Poll - this one affects us all :) — Dave Thomas <Dave@...>

38 messages 2001/12/02
[#27290] RE: New RubyGarden Poll - this one affects us all :) — "Mark Hahn" <mchahn@...> 2001/12/02

[#27482] Re: New RubyGarden Poll - this one affects us all :) — Darrin Thompson <dthompson@...> 2001/12/04

Paul Brannan wrote:

[#27488] Re: New RubyGarden Poll - this one affects us all :) — Michael Neumann <neumann@...> 2001/12/04

Darrin Thompson wrote:

[#27546] Re: New RubyGarden Poll - this one affects us all :) — Bob Hutchison <hutch@...> 2001/12/05

Hi everyone,

[#27552] Re: New RubyGarden Poll - this one affectsus all :) — "Bill Kelly" <billk@...> 2001/12/05

[#27553] Re: New RubyGarden Poll - this one affectsus all :) — David Alan Black <dblack@...> 2001/12/05

Hello --

[#27344] Programname in (un*x) top — kamphausen@... (SKa)

Dear Rubies,

25 messages 2001/12/03
[#27454] Re: Programname in (un*x) top — kamphausen@... (SKa) 2001/12/04

mark@wutka.com wrote in message news:<IsPO7.70773$8n4.4039369@e3500-atl1.usenetserver.com>...

[#27456] Re: Programname in (un*x) top — Martin Weber <Ephaeton@...> 2001/12/04

On Wed, Dec 05, 2001 at 01:03:17AM +0900, SKa wrote:

[#27369] Killer app for Ruby developers? — "Hal E. Fulton" <hal9000@...>

This is an idea that is very skeletal

17 messages 2001/12/03

[#27405] Sourceforge vs. Savannah — "Hal E. Fulton" <hal9000@...>

Opinion question(s).

16 messages 2001/12/04

[#27485] Package Naming — Dave Thomas <Dave@...>

69 messages 2001/12/04
[#27487] RE: Package Naming — "Mark Hahn" <mchahn@...> 2001/12/04

[#27501] RE: Package Naming — Sean Russell <ser@...> 2001/12/05

Mark Hahn wrote:

[#27506] Re: Package Naming — "Mark Hahn" <mchahn@...> 2001/12/05

[#27585] Re: Package Naming — "Mark Hahn" <mchahn@...> 2001/12/05

The forest service must be a hotbed for beauracracy. The only requirement

[#27587] Re: Package Naming — David Alan Black <dblack@...> 2001/12/05

Hello --

[#27588] Re: Package Naming — "Rich Kilmer" <rich@...> 2001/12/05

> -----Original Message-----

[#27589] Re: Package Naming — David Alan Black <dblack@...> 2001/12/05

Hi --

[#27591] Re: Package Naming — "Rich Kilmer" <rich@...> 2001/12/05

David...

[#27505] Do we need something like Python-URL? — ptkwt@...1.aracnet.com (Phil Tomson)

16 messages 2001/12/05

[#27647] web hosting — "ktethridge" <kevinethridge@...>

Does anyone know of a good hosting service that supports Ruby and MySQL?

18 messages 2001/12/06
[#27654] RE: web hosting — "Curt Hibbs" <curt@...> 2001/12/06

Kevin wrote:

[#27761] what are symbols good for???? — Markus Jais <info@...>

hello

13 messages 2001/12/06

[#27783] DBI and large result sets — " JamesBritt" <james@...>

I'm starting to use Ruby DBI, and I'm wondering about its use when processing

18 messages 2001/12/07
[#27805] Re: DBI and large result sets — Michael Neumann <neumann@...> 2001/12/07

JamesBritt wrote:

[#27829] Re: DBI and large result sets — "James Britt (rubydev)" <james@...> 2001/12/07

Thanks to those who helped clarify things.

[#27824] Perl/Python Module Porting — Joseph Erickson <jerickson@...>

Has there been any thought in the Ruby Community of actively porting

27 messages 2001/12/07
[#27834] Re: Perl/Python Module Porting — ptkwt@...1.aracnet.com (Phil Tomson) 2001/12/07

In article <B3265BDC-EB39-11D5-97BA-0050E4C58663@eyemg.com>,

[#27837] Perl/Python Module Porting — Eric Lee Green <eric@...> 2001/12/07

On Friday 07 December 2001 11:55 am, Phil Tomson wrote:

[#27895] Re: Perl/Python Module Porting — Mathieu Bouchard <matju@...> 2001/12/08

[#27894] Re: App server for Ruby? — Tobias DiPasquale <anany@...>

Todd Gillespie wrote

12 messages 2001/12/08

[#27897] Dictionary.com speeder upper — "Ralph Mason" <ralph.mason@...>

Here is a little script I did to make dictionary.com more useful for me.

15 messages 2001/12/08

[#27915] Ruby IDE?? What about using Eclipse?? — "Ross Shaw" <rshaw1961@...>

Eclipse (www.eclipse.org) is an open extensible IDE (written in Java) that

16 messages 2001/12/08
[#27916] Re: Ruby IDE?? What about using Eclipse?? — Robert Feldt <feldt@...> 2001/12/08

On Sat, 8 Dec 2001, Ross Shaw wrote:

[#27920] Re: Ruby IDE?? What about using Eclipse?? — "Curt Hibbs" <curt@...> 2001/12/08

I am going to do this.

[#27921] Re: Ruby IDE?? What about using Eclipse?? — Robert Feldt <feldt@...> 2001/12/08

On Sat, 8 Dec 2001, Curt Hibbs wrote:

[#27980] Displaying Ruby code in LaTeX — "Harry Ohlsen" <harryo@...>

Has anyone written a document in LaTeX that includes examples of Ruby

15 messages 2001/12/08

[#28052] How does puts decide how to print a given object? — "Harry Ohlsen" <harryo@...>

I'm writing a short tutorial introduction to Ruby for an upcoming uni

20 messages 2001/12/10
[#28062] Re: How does puts decide how to print a given object? — matz@... (Yukihiro Matsumoto) 2001/12/10

Hi,

[#28087] Re: How does puts decide how to print a given object? — David Alan Black <dblack@...> 2001/12/10

Hello --

[#28096] The benefits of dynamic typing? — Roy Patrick Tan <rtan@...>

I have just recently read an old paper by Wirth "On the Design of

59 messages 2001/12/10
[#28108] Re: The benefits of dynamic typing? — Robert Feldt <feldt@...> 2001/12/10

This is a bit long...

[#28147] Re: The benefits of dynamic typing? — "Harry Ohlsen" <harryo@...> 2001/12/10

In article <3C153282.9000309@vt.edu>, "Roy Patrick Tan" <rtan@vt.edu>

[#28150] Re: The benefits of dynamic typing? — "Mark Hahn" <mchahn@...> 2001/12/10

[#28115] Ruby for Mac OS X — "Dan Hable" <DHable@...>

Hi,

18 messages 2001/12/10
[#28119] Re: Ruby for Mac OS X — Luc Heinrich <lucsky@...> 2001/12/10

On 10/12/2001 19:05, "Dan Hable" <DHable@phmining.com> wrote:

[#28885] Re: Ruby for Mac OS X — John Beppu <beppu@...9.org> 2001/12/18

[ date ] 2001/12/11 | Tuesday | 03:23 AM

[#28179] Ruby Musings — "John Kaurin" <jkaurin@...>

Ruby Musings (IMHO):

18 messages 2001/12/11

[#28272] Survey for new Rubyists — ptkwt@...1.aracnet.com (Phil Tomson)

23 messages 2001/12/11

[#28307] Reviews solicited for Ruby article — "Harry Ohlsen" <harryo@...>

I'm in the process of writing an article on Ruby for a computer science students'

17 messages 2001/12/12

[#28308] Rendering UML diagrams? — Robert Feldt <feldt@...>

Hi,

14 messages 2001/12/12

[#28495] internal server errors — Jack Dempsey <dempsejn@...>

hi all,

15 messages 2001/12/14

[#28500] A Review of "Ruby in a Nutshell" book — Johan Holmberg <holmberg@...>

27 messages 2001/12/14

[#28552] help with ^M (line endings ) removing — Dinakar Desai <Desai.Dinakar@...>

Hello:

12 messages 2001/12/14

[#28655] RDoc - Document Ruby source files — Dave Thomas <Dave@...>

25 messages 2001/12/16
[#28768] Re: RDoc - Document Ruby source files — Dave Thomas <Dave@...> 2001/12/17

Alexander Bokovoy <a.bokovoy@sam-solutions.net> writes:

[#28769] Re: RDoc - Document Ruby source files — Alexander Bokovoy <a.bokovoy@...> 2001/12/17

On Mon, Dec 17, 2001 at 11:19:11PM +0900, Dave Thomas wrote:

[#28789] Re: RDoc - Document Ruby source files — "Christian Boos" <cboos@...> 2001/12/17

[#28676] How do you do "character filtering" of a string using each_byte. — olczyk@... (Thaddeus L. Olczyk)

I'm trying to do several things where I produce new strings from old

10 messages 2001/12/16

[#28722] stderr from external process? — "MikkelFJ" <mikkelj-anti-spam@...1.dknet.dk>

I have asked this question before - maybe it is just not possible:

75 messages 2001/12/17
[#28923] Re: stderr from external process? — "MikkelFJ" <mikkelj-anti-spam@...1.dknet.dk> 2001/12/19

[#28960] RE: Ruby 'make' replacement (Re: stderr from external process?) — "Christian Boos" <cboos@...> 2001/12/19

Hello,

[#29094] Re: Ruby 'make' replacement (Re: stderr from external process?) — "Jason Horman" <jason@...> 2001/12/20

I wrote the Torrent library. I was not sure what license to pick so I picked

[#29096] Re: Ruby 'make' replacement (Re: stderr from external process?) — Robert Feldt <feldt@...> 2001/12/20

Just a thought on this thread (it might be obvious, I just want it to be

[#29117] Re: Ruby 'make' replacement (Re: stderr from external process?) — Dave Thomas <Dave@...> 2001/12/20

"MikkelFJ" <mikkelj-anti-spam@post1.dknet.dk> writes:

[#29156] Programming Ruby — "Marcio Barbosa" <argaeus@...> 2001/12/20

Hi,

[#28737] [Announcement] Ruby news weekly — Holden Glova <dsafari@...>

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30 messages 2001/12/17

[#28749] Constant loss of memory with Kernel::load in a loop — "Jens Nissen" <frodo.hobbit@...>

We have developed a wonderful application under Windows 2K using Ruby 1.6.5

31 messages 2001/12/17
[#28755] Re: Constant loss of memory with Kernel::load in a loop — nobu.nokada@... 2001/12/17

At Mon, 17 Dec 2001 19:36:42 +0900,

[#28760] Re: Constant loss of memory with Kernel::load in a loop — ts <decoux@...> 2001/12/17

>>>>> "n" == nobu nokada <nobu.nokada@softhome.net> writes:

[#28774] Re: Constant loss of memory with Kernel::load in a loop — nobu.nokada@... 2001/12/17

At Mon, 17 Dec 2001 22:06:31 +0900,

[#28782] Re: Constant loss of memory with Kernel::load in a loop — ts <decoux@...> 2001/12/17

>>>>> "n" == nobu nokada <nobu.nokada@softhome.net> writes:

[#28803] Re: Constant loss of memory with Kernel::load in a loop — nobu.nokada@... 2001/12/17

At Mon, 17 Dec 2001 23:59:17 +0900,

[#29128] Re: Constant loss of memory with Kernel::load in a loop — matz@... (Yukihiro Matsumoto) 2001/12/20

Hi,

[#28855] [IDEA] creating stand-alone versions for easy distribution etc — Patrik Sundberg <ps@...>

hi list,

10 messages 2001/12/18
[#28856] Re: [IDEA] creating stand-alone versions for easy distribution etc — Robert Feldt <feldt@...> 2001/12/18

On Tue, 18 Dec 2001, Patrik Sundberg wrote:

[#28875] C++ preincrement operator — Paul Brannan <paul@...>

In Ruby, if I do this:

17 messages 2001/12/18
[#28876] Re: C++ preincrement operator — Peter Hickman <peter@...> 2001/12/18

Paul Brannan wrote:

[#28878] Re: C++ preincrement operator — Paul Brannan <paul@...> 2001/12/18

On Wed, Dec 19, 2001 at 02:09:03AM +0900, Peter Hickman wrote:

[#28879] Re: C++ preincrement operator — "Jack Dempsey" <dempsejn@...> 2001/12/18

so basically you're suggesting that any amount of stacking -'s or +'s past

[#28911] A Ruby programmer walked into a bar ... — "Harry Ohlsen" <harryo@...>

Now that I have your attention :-) ...

29 messages 2001/12/19
[#28985] Re: A Ruby programmer walked into a bar and ordered a Ruby-Thread — Luc Heinrich <lucsky@...> 2001/12/19

On 19/12/2001 15:46, "Harry Ohlsen" <harryo@zip.com.au> wrote:

[#29036] Re: A Ruby programmer walked into a bar and ordered a Ruby-Thread — HarryO <harryo@...> 2001/12/19

On Thu, 20 Dec 2001 07:58:47 +1100, Dave Thomas wrote:

[#29038] Re: A Ruby programmer walked into a bar and ordered a Ruby-Thread — "Mark Hahn" <mchahn@...> 2001/12/20

[#29046] Re: A Ruby programmer walked into a bar and ordered a Ruby-Thread — Dave Thomas <Dave@...> 2001/12/20

"Mark Hahn" <mchahn@facelink.com> writes:

[#28926] Stream? — Ron Jeffries <ronjeffries@...>

Is there a memory stream object in Ruby, analogous to Smalltalk's

14 messages 2001/12/19

[#28977] overriding methods: (almost) a replacement for alias_method — Paul Brannan <paul@...>

I think almost all of us will agree that it's pretty ugly to do:

17 messages 2001/12/19

[#29014] But is it Fun? — edwardhatfield1@... (Edward Hatfield)

I've been watching Ruby with great interest over

19 messages 2001/12/19

[#29265] upper case to lower — "Bashar A. Asad" <baasad@...>

hello,

25 messages 2001/12/21

[#29296] XEmacs problems with ruby-mode.el

Hi,

17 messages 2001/12/22

[#29327] a better way? — Ron Jeffries <ronjeffries@...>

I was writing a little code that cached a function value, and wound up

38 messages 2001/12/23
[#29328] Re: a better way? — David Alan Black <dblack@...> 2001/12/23

Hi --

[#29331] Re: a better way? — "Hal E. Fulton" <hal9000@...> 2001/12/23

----- Original Message -----

[#29488] Python and Ruby: a comparison — Ron Stephens <rdsteph@...>

I initiated a thread over on comp.lang.python which has turned into

68 messages 2001/12/27
[#29677] Re: Python and Ruby: a comparison — Ron Stephens <rdsteph@...> 2001/12/30

Very interesting idea. Unfortunately, I doubt if it woudl be possible. For one

[#29696] Re: Python and Ruby: a comparison — "Conrad Schneiker" <schneiker@...> 2001/12/30

"Ron Stephens" <rdsteph@earthlink.net> wrote:

[#29869] Re: Python and Ruby: a comparison — Michael Kelly <mkelly2002NOSPAM@...> 2001/12/31

On Mon, 31 Dec 2001 12:26:46 +1100, Michael Lucas-Smith >Check out

[#29871] Re: Python and Ruby: a comparison — Dan Sugalski <dan@...> 2001/12/31

At 02:02 AM 1/1/2002 +0900, Michael Kelly wrote:

[#29541] New Rubygarden poll — Dave Thomas <Dave@...>

27 messages 2001/12/28

[#29545] RDoc now displays source — Dave Thomas <Dave@...>

17 messages 2001/12/28

[#29596] extending method of class A to support arguments of class B by promoting `self' to class B — Tomasz Wegrzanowski <taw@...>

(Names of classes chosen arbitrarily, just to show issue)

18 messages 2001/12/28

[#29613] Extending Ruby on Windows platform using VC++ IDE — "Alan Moyer" <moyer4@...>

Hi,

11 messages 2001/12/29

[#29667] Yet Another Newbie — Michael Kelly <mkelly2002NOSPAM@...>

Yet Another Newbie. :)

13 messages 2001/12/29

[#29713] Ruby parsers in Ruby — ptkwt@...1.aracnet.com (Phil Tomson)

Wouldn't it be cool to have Ruby playing with Parrot before Python or even

20 messages 2001/12/30

[#29773] Proc.class vs yield — Michael Lucas-Smith <s3225202@...>

Hi,

49 messages 2001/12/31
[#29782] Re: Proc.class vs yield — David Alan Black <dblack@...> 2001/12/31

Hello --

[#29795] Re: Proc.class vs yield — Michael Lucas-Smith <s3225202@...> 2001/12/31

def someThing (&a, &b)

[#29796] Re: Proc.class vs yield — David Alan Black <dblack@...> 2001/12/31

Hi --

[#29797] Re: Proc.class vs yield — Michael Lucas-Smith <s3225202@...> 2001/12/31

>

[#29802] Re: Proc.class vs yield — David Alan Black <dblack@...> 2001/12/31

Hi --

[#29849] Re: Proc.class vs yield — Michael Lucas-Smith <s3225202@...> 2001/12/31

That's a good solution, thanks.

[#29867] Re: Proc.class vs yield — David Alan Black <dblack@...> 2001/12/31

Hi --

[#29798] FXRuby FreeRIDE Spike uploaded. — Phlip <phlip_cpp@...>

Rubies:

14 messages 2001/12/31

[#29886] Ruby/Python: Software Engineering — noone <nanotech@...>

All:

36 messages 2001/12/31
[#29889] Re: Ruby/Python: Software Engineering — Tomasz Wegrzanowski <taw@...> 2001/12/31

On Tue, Jan 01, 2002 at 05:03:35AM +0900, noone wrote:

[#29904] Re: Ruby/Python: Software Engineering — noone <nanotech@...> 2001/12/31

Tomasz/All:

[#29887] RE: Ruby multi-dimensional Hash question?---Any one out there willing to give this questions a try? — "Crandall, Jeff W" <jeff.w.crandall@...>

Anyone? Is this the correct mailing list to try and get

18 messages 2001/12/31

[#29895] How to check free diskspace? — Le Wang <lewang@?.?.bigfoot.com (nospam)>

Hi all,

23 messages 2001/12/31

[ruby-talk:28014] Re: Ruby IDE?? What about using Eclipse??

From: "Curt Hibbs" <curt@...>
Date: 2001-12-09 09:30:37 UTC
List: ruby-talk #28014
> Could someone who've tried Eclipse describe these more advanced
> features. How do they work and are they any good? They sound cool but from
> previous experience with CASE-tools/IDE's my impression is that they can
> be hard to understand and use and doesn't really help me be more
> productive.

A good software development tool should not get in the way. It should
facilitate software development by providing information and/or assistance
only when you need it while requiring only a minimal amount of effort (or no
effort) on the programmer's part. Now that's very easy to say, but actually
accomplishing that is another store entirely. Still, its a good principle to
keep in mind (like matz's principle of least surprise).

Eclipse doesn't directly support or implement most these features. Instead,
it provides a framework in which these features can be implemented (Eclipse
is distributed with plug-ins for that implement many of these features for
Java). In addition, the design of Eclipse allows plug-ins to be tightly
integrated while being independent. So, a Ruby plug-in for Eclipse can still
make full use of the CVS plug-in or the Ant plug-in.

Here are a few of my thoughts on some of these facilities (let's take the
really simple stuff, like syntax highlighting and auto-indenting, for
granted):

** Code Assist Features **

- Code Completion: As you type in program code, a realtime analysis is
maintained of what you might be trying to write and offers you (either
automatically or on request) a list of possible completions. The key to
making this work effectively (besides the quality of the analysis) is making
it unobtrusive and nearly effortless to use. For Java, IntelliJ IDEA and
JBuilder 5 both have excellent implementations that can serve as a model.

- Smart Renaming: When any entity is renamed (module, class, method,
variable) the IDE should be able to rename all uses of that entity in the
project's source code (this should really be under the heading of
Refactoring). A variation on renaming, is moving code -- like moving a
method from one class to another.

- Smart Help: When the name of something( module, class, method, variable)
is selected -- or even if the cursor is merely within the name -- a simple
action (like a keystroke) should be able to quickly display whatever
information is available. This could be a method signature or the contents
of embedded documentation for that name. Admittedly, this will be more
difficult in a dynamic language like Ruby than it is in typed languages like
Java.

- Template Expansion: This is the ability to define your own templates for
commonly inserted code. This can apply at any level, like inserting the
boilerplate text for a new module or class or the text for iterating over an
array. These templates should accept parameters which can be substituted
within the expanded template one or more times. The typical way of invoking
this is to type in your code the name of the template (like "class") and
then press the template-expansion-keystroke.

- xUnit Support: I'm not sure what form this would take, but whatever
testing framework becomes the Ruby standard, the IDE should facilitate its
use.

** Class Browser **

The first purpose of a class browser (or a structural view) is to let you
see the structure the modules/classes in your project. The second purpose is
to use that structure to let you jump to the source code that implements a
particular item in the in the hierarchy. A variation on this would let you,
in the source code you are editing, select a module/class/method/etc. and
then jump to its definition (or see a list of all known uses which you can
also use to jump to those locations in the source code).

================

Regards,
Curt

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