From: matz@... (Yukihiro Matsumoto) Date: 2002-01-03T03:53:21+09:00 Subject: [ruby-talk:30065] Re: Ruby/Python: Software Engineering Hi, In message "[ruby-talk:30056] Re: Ruby/Python: Software Engineering" on 02/01/03, Quentin Crain writes: | Methodologies and Tools exist independently; completely. This statement is misleading. I feel like methodologies belongs diffrent level of abstraction. Languages (and their features) are tools, and software engineering and methodologies are how to use tools. If you didn't use the terms like "software engineering" or "methodologies", things were far easier. Are you interested particularly in those terms? Or what language characteristics help you write better code? matz.