From: Kent Beck Date: 2001-12-22T06:14:35+09:00 Subject: [ruby-talk:29259] Re: John Roth dolt ( Re: A challenge to proponents of Unit Testing. ) Tom Adams wrote in message news:793af3df.0112130512.425c87dc@posting.google.com... > Ken[t] Beck has not addressed this issue in his "comprehensive" set of test. I never intended to use the word "comprehensive". If I did, I apologize. My contention is that for most programming, test-first development raises the MTBF high enough to change the rules about how verification and validation should occur. Teams that have tried it should comment, as goodness knows you wouldn't want to take my word for it. Kent