From: Massimiliano Mirra <list@...>
Date: 2001-12-15T01:06:20+09:00
Subject: [ruby-talk:28519] Re: Design question: remote UIs and distributed objects

On Fri, Dec 14, 2001 at 09:36:19AM +0900, vruz@www.digipromo.com wrote:
> > I am not sure whether the bigger amount of data to transfer
> > (<Integer>1</Integer><Float>3.24352</Float> instead of 1,3.24252)
> > would be overkill for such an application, though.
> In order to minimize network traffic, WAP/WML is compiled
> to some sort of bytecode.

Yes, that is an approach, although I am more concerned with feedback
speed than with network load.

If write-bytecode-send-receive-uncode-read is slower than
write-send-receive-read, my case calls for the latter.

> WML is an XML application language and it is used for
> basically the same idea, rendering an user interface in the
> client, while maintaining state in the server.

Again, this is interesting but different from what I'm doing.
Interfaces do reside on the client machines, it's just communication
between them and the server that needs to be sent over the net.

> An example of my current test project generates:
> (sorry, it's in spanish)
> http://www.digipromo.com/v_desk/test_desktop.php

It sends me back to the www.digipromo.com main page when accessed with
Opera, and shows something in Netscape, but icons do not respond to
clicks (assuming that they are intended to).

It was a nice surprise to see the Amiga logo pop up on the main page,
though. :-)

And while we are at it, has anybody taken a look to Tao's Elate, which
the Amiga will use as its future architecture? [*] Some think of it as
a .NET alternative (a virtual processor running on many platforms, a
common language infrastructure, a JIT assembler...).

[*] Yes, yes, I know, there's little sense in using the verb ``will''
when speaking about Amiga, please read it as ``those in charge hype
about it and life-long users hope it's not vaporware again''.

> Please note it performs very badly in Mozilla, but it
> does well on Internet Explorer >= 5.0

Sorry, couldn't find any IE Debian package. <wink>

> just some ideas...
> please keep me updated if you think of something else
> regarding this issue.

I gather the Mozilla interface is built with the XML-derived XUL,
i.e. an interface description tat gets parsed and rendered.  I don't
know more about it, but maybe it would be a practicable way?

Massimiliano