From: Phlip <phlip_cpp@...>
Date: 2001-12-31T23:02:04+09:00
Subject: [ruby-talk:29853] Re: FXRuby FreeRIDE Spike uploaded.

Curt Hibbs sez:

>> From: Phlip [mailto:phlip_cpp@yahoo.com] Sent: Sunday, December 30,
>> 2001 9:42 PM My RUedit concept, based on UEdit... The editor provided
>> primitives and between >every< command and the primitives is a bit of
>> script, no matter how short, written >inside< the editor.
> 
> I really like this. It truly enables rapid incremental development.
> There should be an integral way to package up and submit such additions
> to the project for inclusion in the distribution.

UEdit supported sharing individual keystrokes, as source, and replacing
your entire keyset, as a file inaccurately called Data!. It contained the
p-code for a whole environment. There were Data! clones of Brief, VI,
EMACS, CUA, etc.

Tip: For now, PLEEZE stay with CUA & don't focus on bogus legacy keymappings as
an early feature!

>> Lapidary must be integral, below the level of 'addCommand'. We are
>> going to be test-first, right?
> 
> Absolutely, test first.
> 
> Do you prefer Lapidary over RUnit? (I have no opinion on this, I still a
> Ruby newbie).

RUnit and Lapidary are to merge. ;-)

> Have you used IntelliJ IDEA? Its a java with very good refactoring and
> code navigation features (http://www.intellij.com/idea/). I want
> FreeRIDE to eventually match this level of support for Ruby development.
> Being able to parse Ruby and knowing where you are in the syntax tree
> will be essential for this as well as simpler stuff like syntax
> highlighting.

I boast a Java-free resume ;-)

> I like the idea of an all Ruby implementation, including the editor. If
> we had insufficient developer resources, I would prefer to go with
> something like scintilla. But having someone like yourself to champion
> the editor-in-ruby approach would easily change that.

Sorry. Buy-don't-build. But y'all are correct that The Wrong API will make
adding in systemic things like IntelliTips a real pain.

Note: Our arch enemy is not kant or IntelliJ or VC++ IDE. It is Squeak.

> Would you be willing to create a FreeRIDE wiki page to describe this
> approach. Nothing fancy, you could cut and paste from your emails.

Okay.

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