From: Conrad Schneiker <schneiker@...>
Date: 2001-12-28T05:14:10+09:00
Subject: [ruby-talk:29478] Re: so close and yet so far

"Conrad Schneiker" <schneiker@jump.net> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> "Joel VanderWerf" <vjoel@PATH.Berkeley.EDU> wrote:
> >
> > Anybody checked out Python 2.2?
>
> "What's New in Python 2.2":
>
>     http://www.amk.ca/python/2.2/index.html
>
> > Type/class unification, subclassing
> > built-in classes, "attributes" (like accessors), iterators and yield,
> > generators, integer rollover to bignum. Looks like a tribute to Ruby.
>
> Except for generators, which were primarily Icon inspired.
>
> Also has nested scopes, descriptors (in terms of which slots and
properties
> are implemented).
>
> > There's a lot of visible patching and mending to get it all to work,
> > quite an admirable effort.
>
> Very much so. Despite its unfortunate indentation syntax design flaw, I
> think Python has advanced to the point where a great many Perl users will
> increasingly consider Python (like Ruby) to be an overall cooler and more
> powerful tool, notwithstanding the ingenuity of Wall, Conway, and other
> powerful Perl luminaries involving the agonizingly slow design of the
> tragically byzantine Perl 6.
>
> Some other new odds and ends: People who recall the old division
discussions
> (in connection with mod (%) IIRC) might be also interested in checking out
> the discussions about changes relating to / and //. IIUC, multiple
> inheritance now follows the Common Lisp lookup rule. Plus more new and
> improved standard modules.
>
> > I'm glad Ruby was designed right from the
> > start, though :)
>
> Someone chimed in with the increasingly common and similar Ruby refrain on
> the /. announcement:
>
>   http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=01/12/22/1736220&mode=thread