From: Mark Hahn <mchahn@...>
Date: 2001-12-05T02:41:50+09:00
Subject: [ruby-talk:27465] Re: Killer app for Ruby developers?

I'ved used IntelliJ IDEA for over a year for Java, and I agree that it is
the best IDE around for a static language, but many of IDEA's features
aren't needed in a good dynamic typeless language like Ruby.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Curt Hibbs" <curt@hibbs.com>
To: "ruby-talk ML" <ruby-talk@ruby-lang.org>
Sent: Monday, December 03, 2001 10:02 PM
Subject: [ruby-talk:27413] Re: Killer app for Ruby developers?


> I was planning to do something like this also. I would be happy to
> participate, but I am a Ruby newbie (hey, that rhymes!) and I was hoping
to
> get up-to-speed on Ruby with a smaller self-contained project. Even so,
I've
> been developing OO software in other languages for longer than I'd like to
> admit so I should be able to contribute on some level.
>
> I'd suggest creating the project on savannah instead of sourceforge.
>
> As far as the refactoring and code-assist parts are concerned, there is an
> excellent example available for java called "IntelliJ IDEA"
> (http://www.intellij.com/idea/). It's an awesome java tool -- I want it
for
> Ruby. Add in pair programming and you've got paradise (maybe that's a good
> name for it -- Pairadise!).
>
> Curt
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bob Calco [mailto:rcalco@cortechs.com]
> Sent: Monday, December 03, 2001 4:22 PM
> To: ruby-talk ML
> Subject: [ruby-talk:27390] RE: Killer app for Ruby developers?
>
>
> Hal:
>
> I think its a fantastic idea. I personally think we could do it in Tk (for
> maximum portability), a la Python's IDLE, only with a network connection
and
> a scratchboard or chat window. We can move it to something else later (I
> just created a wxRuby project at sourceforge, or rather, it just got
> approved today, but that'll take a while to get anything useful up and
> running). I think its a cool idea, let's do it. May have to implement
pieces
> in native C for speed, as extension modules, but if it's as good as I
think
> it could be, maybe Matz'll throw it in the standard distribution. In any
> event it would make a good addition to RAA.
>
> Why don't you create a project on SourceForge for it, call it something
like
> Pair-A-Digm or something like that. Count me in if you want to go that
> route. I like it.
>
> :)
>
> Bob Calco
>
> # -----Original Message-----
> # From: Hal E. Fulton [mailto:hal9000@hypermetrics.com]
> # Sent: Monday, December 03, 2001 4:23 PM
> # To: ruby-talk ML
> # Subject: [ruby-talk:27369] Killer app for Ruby developers?
> #
> #
> # This is an idea that is very skeletal
> # yet I think there's a twist that makes
> # it significant (especially for XP people).
> #
> # The basic idea:
> #
> # A browser-editor that can do basic
> # refactoring (and maybe some source
> # control functions). Should of course be
> # scriptable in Ruby. Should have some
> # kind of template or script support for
> # Lapidary or RubyUnit or whatever.
> # Disclaimer: I don't know SmallTalk, but
> # I hear the browser is a thing of beauty.
> #
> # The twist:
> #
> # Net-enable it for the purpose of... <drum
> # roll please> remote pair programming!
> #
> # Pair with anyone in the world, given an
> # IP address and a time to meet.
> #
> # I envision a button that switches between
> # "You Drive" and "I'll Drive" -- each person
> # completely controls the app while he is in
> # charge.
> #
> # Should have at least a chat box, maybe even
> # voice, maybe even webcam.
> #
> # One problem: Do we settle on a fixed editor?
> # Make it configurable? Give it "faces" that look
> # like emacs or whatever? Not everyone agrees
> # on the choice of editor. (I think my opinion is to
> # have a "neutral ground" editor.)
> #
> # Thoughts, anyone?
> #
> # Hal
> #
> #
> #
>
>