From: truediogen@... (Vladimir)
Date: 2001-12-20T19:09:15+09:00
Subject: [ruby-talk:29086] Re: John Roth dolt (  Re: A challenge to proponents of Unit Testing. )

"Kent Beck" <kentbeck@my-deja.com> wrote in message news:<9v4cfl$ksh$1@suaar1ab.prod.compuserve.com>...
> Vladimir <truediogen@my-deja.com> wrote in message
> news:4837660.0112100622.31809760@posting.google.com...

> How many tests would I need to write so I was willing to say that the system
> *will* crash if they try a scenario not covered by the tests, and they
> should pay me anyway? Enough tests so the MTBF of the system as a whole is
> dramatically lower than the competition.

Of course but who is here enough experienced in testing _that certain
kind of a system_ to decide how much is enough.

As Bob Bnder claimed you luck an objective criteria in deciding how
much is enough. "Enough" alone is _not_ an objective criteria. This is
a mindset, whether or not it's enough depends on your luck.

My point is thst XP Unit tests is not enough to replace whole
development cycle testing.

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Best Wishes,
Vladimir