Coraline is a panelist on Ruby rogues and a very well respec= ted member of the community. To say she's not an engineer is downright = false. The proponents of this are engineers whose names I (for the most par= t) recognize. Are there some who may not be? The same can be said of the ot= her side.

Let's not degrade this into a posturing contest of what = a true engineer is. In fact, that's one of the exact problems we should= seek to avoid.

On Jan 26, 2016 1:10 PM, "Andrew Kirilenko&= quot; <andrew.kirilenko@gm= ail.com> wrote:

They will never provide any numbers because they are no= t engineers and they can't even fetch them.

On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 12:05 AM, <g= it@chuckremes.com> wrote:
I= ssue #12004 has been updated by Chuck Remes.

#433 Kurtis Rainbolt-Greene wrote:
<i>Done. See: Backlog.</i>

No. NOT done. I've read this entire thread and I haven't seen any p= roponent of a CoC provide a single, solid shred of evidence that a CoC will= improve the project. There have been plenty of heated opinions flying arou= nd but very little data.

For it to make sense for the Core team to take on MORE WORK, there should b= e a DEFINED BENEFIT for that choice. And it should be MEASURABLE. We appare= ntly have over a dozen projects that have adopted a CoC so there should be = plenty of data available to make this case.

If you think this Is "done" and has been answered, then I look fo= rward to your list of message numbers that lay out this proof.

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Misc #12004: Code of Conduct
https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/12004#c= hange-56712

* Author: Coraline Ada Ehmke
* Status: Assigned
* Priority: Normal
* Assignee: Yukihiro Matsumoto
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I am the creator of the Contributor Covenant, a code of conduct for Open So= urce projects. At last count there are over 13,000 projects on Github that = have adopted it. This past year saw adoption of Contributor Covenant by a l= ot of very large, very visible projects, including Rails, Github's Atom= text editor, Angular JS, bundler, curl, diaspora, discourse, Eclipse, rspe= c, shoes, and rvm. The bundler team made code of conduct integration an opt= ion in the gem creation workflow, putting it on par with license selection.= Many open source language communities have already adopted the code of con= duct, including Elixir, Mono, the .NET foundation, F#, and Apple's Swif= t. RubyTogether also adopted a policy to only fund Ruby projects that had a= solid code of conduct in place.

Right now in the PHP community there is a healthy debate about adopting the= Contributor Covenant. Since it came from and has been so widely adopted by= the Ruby community at large, I think it's time that we consider adopti= ng it for the core Ruby language as well.

Our community prides itself on niceness. What a code of conduct does is def= ine what we mean by nice. It states clearly that we value openness, courtes= y, and compassion. That we care about and want contributions from people wh= o may be different from us. That we pledge to respect all contributors rega= rdless of their race, gender, sexual orientation, or other factors. And it = makes it clear that we are prepared to follow through on these values with = action when and if an incident arises.

I'm asking that we join with the larger Ruby community in supporting th= e adoption of the Contributor Covenant for the Ruby language. I think that = this will be an important step forward and will ensure the continued welcom= ing and supportive environment around Ruby. You can read the full text of t= he Contributor Covenant at http://contributor-covenant= .org/version/1/3/0/ and learn more at http://contributor-covenan= t.org/.

Thanks for your consideration and I look forward to hearing your thoughts.<= br>

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