[ruby-core:73494] Re: [Ruby trunk - Misc #12004] Code of Conduct

Coraline is a panelist on Ruby rogues and a very well respected member of
the community. To say she's not an engineer is downright false. The
proponents of this are engineers whose names I (for the most part)
recognize. Are there some who may not be? The same can be said of the other
side.

Let's not degrade this into a posturing contest of what a true engineer is.
In fact, that's one of the exact problems we should seek to avoid.
On Jan 26, 2016 1:10 PM, "Andrew Kirilenko" <[e-mail]>
wrote:

> They will never provide any numbers because they are not engineers and
> they can't even fetch them.
>
> On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 12:05 AM, <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
>> Issue #12004 has been updated by Chuck Remes.
>>
>>
>> #433 Kurtis Rainbolt-Greene wrote:
>> <i>Done. See: Backlog.</i>
>>
>> No. NOT done. I've read this entire thread and I haven't seen any
>> proponent of a CoC provide a single, solid shred of evidence that a CoC
>> will improve the project. There have been plenty of heated opinions flying
>> around but very little data.
>>
>> For it to make sense for the Core team to take on MORE WORK, there should
>> be a DEFINED BENEFIT for that choice. And it should be MEASURABLE. We
>> apparently have over a dozen projects that have adopted a CoC so there
>> should be plenty of data available to make this case.
>>
>> If you think this Is "done" and has been answered, then I look forward to
>> your list of message numbers that lay out this proof.
>>
>> ----------------------------------------
>> Misc #12004: Code of Conduct
>> https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/12004#change-56712
>>
>> * Author: Coraline Ada Ehmke
>> * Status: Assigned
>> * Priority: Normal
>> * Assignee: Yukihiro Matsumoto
>> ----------------------------------------
>> I am the creator of the Contributor Covenant, a code of conduct for Open
>> Source projects. At last count there are over 13,000 projects on Github
>> that have adopted it. This past year saw adoption of Contributor Covenant
>> by a lot of very large, very visible projects, including Rails, Github's
>> Atom text editor, Angular JS, bundler, curl, diaspora, discourse, Eclipse,
>> rspec, shoes, and rvm. The bundler team made code of conduct integration an
>> option in the gem creation workflow, putting it on par with license
>> selection. Many open source language communities have already adopted the
>> code of conduct, including Elixir, Mono, the .NET foundation, F#, and
>> Apple's Swift. RubyTogether also adopted a policy to only fund Ruby
>> projects that had a solid code of conduct in place.
>>
>> Right now in the PHP community there is a healthy debate about adopting
>> the Contributor Covenant. Since it came from and has been so widely adopted
>> by the Ruby community at large, I think it's time that we consider adopting
>> it for the core Ruby language as well.
>>
>> Our community prides itself on niceness. What a code of conduct does is
>> define what we mean by nice. It states clearly that we value openness,
>> courtesy, and compassion. That we care about and want contributions from
>> people who may be different from us. That we pledge to respect all
>> contributors regardless of their race, gender, sexual orientation, or other
>> factors. And it makes it clear that we are prepared to follow through on
>> these values with action when and if an incident arises.
>>
>> I'm asking that we join with the larger Ruby community in supporting the
>> adoption of the Contributor Covenant for the Ruby language. I think that
>> this will be an important step forward and will ensure the continued
>> welcoming and supportive environment around Ruby. You can read the full
>> text of the Contributor Covenant at
>> http://contributor-covenant.org/version/1/3/0/ and learn more at
>> http://contributor-covenant.org/.
>>
>> Thanks for your consideration and I look forward to hearing your thoughts.
>>
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