[ruby-core:73427] Re: [Ruby trunk - Misc #12004] Code of Conduct

On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 11:53 AM, <[e-mail]> wrote:

> Issue #12004 has been updated by Robert Klemme.
>
> Vjatseslav Gedrovits wrote:
>
> > What's the problem with current state of Ruby tech community?
> I also asked a similar question but did not notice a reply to that yet.  =
I
> am *suspecting* there might not be an issue that needs fixing.  My
> impression is that this falls into the category "looks like a good idea o=
n
> first sight - but probably is not".
>

This is something that has been answered (by me and a few others), and some
of the responses to this request are *clearly* indicative that the =E2=80=
=9Ccurrent
state of [the] Ruby tech community=E2=80=9D is not as healthy as it would a=
ppear.
Is it unhealthy? Not yet, but there are some deeply angry men here, one of
whom has threatened to hound someone out of the community because they
aren=E2=80=99t as ideologically pure as they think they should be.

From a philosophical perspective, you are assuming that an absence of
evidence (of a problem) is evidence of absence (of a problem). This is not
necessarily the case. I=E2=80=99m *not* saying that the Ruby community is
irretrievably broken, but we do have our problems. Even on this thread,
someone has questioned the concept of gender dysphoria and the *lived
experience* of people with gender dysphoria because they deem it irrelevant
to the =E2=80=9Ctechnical community=E2=80=9D. Given that there are transpeo=
ple in the Ruby
community, that dismissal is an active dismissal of them from the Ruby
community. This is one of several examples *just in this thread* that, if
you consider these problems to be like icebergs, suggest that there are
hidden problems.

I=E2=80=99d also say that =E2=80=9Cnot broken=E2=80=9D isn=E2=80=99t good e=
nough. When I started with Ruby
almost fourteen years ago, the community was not just =E2=80=9Cnot broken=
=E2=80=9D, it was
=E2=80=9Copenly welcoming=E2=80=9D. I think that the contributions to this =
thread by more
than a few of the anti-side (and at least one of the pro-side) are more
along the line of =E2=80=9Cwe welcome you if you look/sound/act just like u=
s=E2=80=9D. That
saddens me. I want to be more =E2=80=9Copenly welcoming=E2=80=9D, and in 20=
16 where gender,
ethnicity, orientation, religion, etc. discrimination is not only still
happening but *rampant* in tech=E2=80=A6one of the ways to be more =E2=80=
=9Copenly
welcoming=E2=80=9D is to be very clear that we value the contributions of *=
all*.

-a
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Austin Ziegler =E2=80=A2 [e-mail] =E2=80=A2 austin@halostatue.c=
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http://www.halostatue.ca/ =E2=80=A2 http://twitter.com/halostatue

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