From: Andrew Kirilenko Date: 2016-01-27T00:10:07+03:00 Subject: [ruby-core:73492] Re: [Ruby trunk - Misc #12004] Code of Conduct --===============0712184712== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11425772270c5c052a431cd8 --001a11425772270c5c052a431cd8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 They will never provide any numbers because they are not engineers and they can't even fetch them. On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 12:05 AM, wrote: > Issue #12004 has been updated by Chuck Remes. > > > #433 Kurtis Rainbolt-Greene wrote: > Done. See: Backlog. > > No. NOT done. I've read this entire thread and I haven't seen any > proponent of a CoC provide a single, solid shred of evidence that a CoC > will improve the project. There have been plenty of heated opinions flying > around but very little data. > > For it to make sense for the Core team to take on MORE WORK, there should > be a DEFINED BENEFIT for that choice. And it should be MEASURABLE. We > apparently have over a dozen projects that have adopted a CoC so there > should be plenty of data available to make this case. > > If you think this Is "done" and has been answered, then I look forward to > your list of message numbers that lay out this proof. > > ---------------------------------------- > Misc #12004: Code of Conduct > https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/12004#change-56712 > > * Author: Coraline Ada Ehmke > * Status: Assigned > * Priority: Normal > * Assignee: Yukihiro Matsumoto > ---------------------------------------- > I am the creator of the Contributor Covenant, a code of conduct for Open > Source projects. At last count there are over 13,000 projects on Github > that have adopted it. This past year saw adoption of Contributor Covenant > by a lot of very large, very visible projects, including Rails, Github's > Atom text editor, Angular JS, bundler, curl, diaspora, discourse, Eclipse, > rspec, shoes, and rvm. The bundler team made code of conduct integration an > option in the gem creation workflow, putting it on par with license > selection. Many open source language communities have already adopted the > code of conduct, including Elixir, Mono, the .NET foundation, F#, and > Apple's Swift. RubyTogether also adopted a policy to only fund Ruby > projects that had a solid code of conduct in place. > > Right now in the PHP community there is a healthy debate about adopting > the Contributor Covenant. Since it came from and has been so widely adopted > by the Ruby community at large, I think it's time that we consider adopting > it for the core Ruby language as well. > > Our community prides itself on niceness. What a code of conduct does is > define what we mean by nice. It states clearly that we value openness, > courtesy, and compassion. That we care about and want contributions from > people who may be different from us. That we pledge to respect all > contributors regardless of their race, gender, sexual orientation, or other > factors. And it makes it clear that we are prepared to follow through on > these values with action when and if an incident arises. > > I'm asking that we join with the larger Ruby community in supporting the > adoption of the Contributor Covenant for the Ruby language. I think that > this will be an important step forward and will ensure the continued > welcoming and supportive environment around Ruby. You can read the full > text of the Contributor Covenant at > http://contributor-covenant.org/version/1/3/0/ and learn more at > http://contributor-covenant.org/. > > Thanks for your consideration and I look forward to hearing your thoughts. > > > ---Files-------------------------------- > Screen Shot 2016-01-22 at 6.45.23 PM.png (595 KB) > Ruby_Code_of_Conduct_Numbers.png (119 KB) > Ruby_Code_of_Conduct_Discussion.png (143 KB) > > > -- > https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/ > > Unsubscribe: > > --001a11425772270c5c052a431cd8 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
They will never provide any numbers because they are not e= ngineers and they can't even fetch them.

On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 12:05 AM, <git@= chuckremes.com> wrote:
Issu= e #12004 has been updated by Chuck Remes.


#433 Kurtis Rainbolt-Greene wrote:
<i>Done. See: Backlog.</i>

No. NOT done. I've read this entire thread and I haven't seen any p= roponent of a CoC provide a single, solid shred of evidence that a CoC will= improve the project. There have been plenty of heated opinions flying arou= nd but very little data.

For it to make sense for the Core team to take on MORE WORK, there should b= e a DEFINED BENEFIT for that choice. And it should be MEASURABLE. We appare= ntly have over a dozen projects that have adopted a CoC so there should be = plenty of data available to make this case.

If you think this Is "done" and has been answered, then I look fo= rward to your list of message numbers that lay out this proof.

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Misc #12004: Code of Conduct
https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/12004#c= hange-56712

* Author: Coraline Ada Ehmke
* Status: Assigned
* Priority: Normal
* Assignee: Yukihiro Matsumoto
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I am the creator of the Contributor Covenant, a code of conduct for Open So= urce projects. At last count there are over 13,000 projects on Github that = have adopted it. This past year saw adoption of Contributor Covenant by a l= ot of very large, very visible projects, including Rails, Github's Atom= text editor, Angular JS, bundler, curl, diaspora, discourse, Eclipse, rspe= c, shoes, and rvm. The bundler team made code of conduct integration an opt= ion in the gem creation workflow, putting it on par with license selection.= Many open source language communities have already adopted the code of con= duct, including Elixir, Mono, the .NET foundation, F#, and Apple's Swif= t. RubyTogether also adopted a policy to only fund Ruby projects that had a= solid code of conduct in place.

Right now in the PHP community there is a healthy debate about adopting the= Contributor Covenant. Since it came from and has been so widely adopted by= the Ruby community at large, I think it's time that we consider adopti= ng it for the core Ruby language as well.

Our community prides itself on niceness. What a code of conduct does is def= ine what we mean by nice. It states clearly that we value openness, courtes= y, and compassion. That we care about and want contributions from people wh= o may be different from us. That we pledge to respect all contributors rega= rdless of their race, gender, sexual orientation, or other factors. And it = makes it clear that we are prepared to follow through on these values with = action when and if an incident arises.

I'm asking that we join with the larger Ruby community in supporting th= e adoption of the Contributor Covenant for the Ruby language. I think that = this will be an important step forward and will ensure the continued welcom= ing and supportive environment around Ruby. You can read the full text of t= he Contributor Covenant at http://contributor-covenant= .org/version/1/3/0/ and learn more at http://contributor-covenan= t.org/.

Thanks for your consideration and I look forward to hearing your thoughts.<= br>

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