From: Austin Ziegler <halostatue@...>
Date: 2016-01-21T23:09:30-05:00
Subject: [ruby-core:73106] Re: [Ruby trunk - Misc #12004] Code of Conduct

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On Thu, Jan 21, 2016 at 7:34 AM, <nekocat432@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> I'm going to start off by saying I was the first one to mention SJW in
> this thread
> and I do very much get it.
>

I=E2=80=99m not sure that you do. Understand that I am *not* saying that yo=
ur lived
experience isn=E2=80=99t real and that you *personally* may have not experi=
enced
the sort of issues that far too many people of colour, creed, sexuality,
gender, or whatever *other* means has been used to marginalize, belittle,
etc.

What I do know is that you=E2=80=99re expounding =E2=80=9CRespectability Po=
litics=E2=80=9D and are
attempting to dismiss Coraline=E2=80=99s recommendation simply because her =
*words*
may not be as polite, refined, or as friendly as you would like them to be.
What you are doing *when* you do this is attempting to say that *her* lived
experience isn=E2=80=99t real. So no, I=E2=80=99m *not* actually sure that =
you get it.

Look, if you *actually* act MINASWAN, there=E2=80=99s nothing to be worried=
 about
from a code of conduct. These things aren=E2=80=99t put in place to give pe=
ople
things to trip over just so they can be banned from a community; they are
there to help with making judgements when there are hard calls to be made.

-a
--=20
Austin Ziegler =E2=80=A2 halostatue@gmail.com =E2=80=A2 austin@halostatue.c=
a
http://www.halostatue.ca/ =E2=80=A2 http://twitter.com/halostatue

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><br><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quo=
te">On Thu, Jan 21, 2016 at 7:34 AM,  <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mail=
to:nekocat432@yahoo.com" target=3D"_blank">nekocat432@yahoo.com</a>&gt;</sp=
an> wrote:<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;bord=
er-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">I&#39;m going to start off by sayi=
ng I was the first one to mention SJW in this thread<br>
and I do very much get it.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I=E2=80=99m =
not sure that you do. Understand that I am *not* saying that your lived exp=
erience isn=E2=80=99t real and that you *personally* may have not experienc=
ed the sort of issues that far too many people of colour, creed, sexuality,=
 gender, or whatever *other* means has been used to marginalize, belittle, =
etc.</div><div><br></div><div>What I do know is that you=E2=80=99re expound=
ing =E2=80=9CRespectability Politics=E2=80=9D and are attempting to dismiss=
 Coraline=E2=80=99s recommendation simply because her *words* may not be as=
 polite, refined, or as friendly as you would like them to be. What you are=
 doing *when* you do this is attempting to say that *her* lived experience =
isn=E2=80=99t real. So no, I=E2=80=99m *not* actually sure that you get it.=
</div><div><br></div><div>Look, if you *actually* act MINASWAN, there=E2=80=
=99s nothing to be worried about from a code of conduct. These things aren=
=E2=80=99t put in place to give people things to trip over just so they can=
 be banned from a community; they are there to help with making judgements =
when there are hard calls to be made.</div><div><br></div></div>-a<br>-- <b=
r><div class=3D"gmail_signature">Austin Ziegler =E2=80=A2 <a href=3D"mailto=
:halostatue@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">halostatue@gmail.com</a> =E2=80=A2=
 <a href=3D"mailto:austin@halostatue.ca" target=3D"_blank">austin@halostatu=
e.ca</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.halostatue.ca/" target=3D"_blank">http://=
www.halostatue.ca/</a> =E2=80=A2 <a href=3D"http://twitter.com/halostatue" =
target=3D"_blank">http://twitter.com/halostatue</a></div>
</div></div>

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