[ruby-core:73577] Re: [Ruby trunk - Misc #12004] Code of Conduct

On Fri, Jan 29, 2016 at 1:37 AM, <[e-mail]> wrote:

> Issue #12004 has been updated by Jay S.
>


> Quite simply: nobody on Ruby's mailing list has been harassed or
> marginalized. Not in this thread, and not in any thread to date. I've bee=
n
> on the mailing list for quite some time as a lurker. I have seen many ver=
y
> heated exchanges, but I've never seen anything that came close to requiri=
ng
> any form of moderator action. It's great to have a document to point peop=
le
> at to remind them of the etiquette of a mailing list / issue tracker, but
> nobody has overtly (or repeatedly) violated the etiquette without it bein=
g
> rectified in the very thread.
>

This statement is not true. There is a post by =E2=80=9Cph ph=E2=80=9D that=
 includes a
direct threat to push someone from this community through harassment
because of what =E2=80=9Cph ph=E2=80=9D considers to be ideological impurit=
y. This threat
has not been addressed or retracted (in fact, =E2=80=9Cph ph=E2=80=9D doubl=
ed down on it).

I believe that if a CoC (with enforcable penalties) had existed prior to
> this discussion, you would have seen a number of requests to enforce such=
 a
> CoC on both ends for this thread. If you agree with the above, you would
> also believe that these requests would be knee-jerk reactions to statemen=
ts
> that others would have misinterpreted as malicious when they were not.
> Again: no CoC rules (even as per Coraline's listing) have *actually* been
> broken here.
>

Again, this statement is not true, even ignoring the direct threat by =E2=
=80=9Cph
ph=E2=80=9D. The troll who impersonated Coraline *clearly* broke *any* sens=
ible
convention for a community, as did the anti-Semitic poster (also a troll).
There are a few other posts here which I would consider borderline and
quite possibly *over* the line (a few posts with racist, sexist, and/or
transphobic statements have been made which should *not* be considered
acceptable and most certainly don=E2=80=99t fit the =E2=80=9CMINASWAN=E2=80=
=9D ideal that most
opponents to CoCs have declared to be =E2=80=9Csufficient=E2=80=9D).

-a
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Austin Ziegler =E2=80=A2 [e-mail] =E2=80=A2 austin@halostatue.c=
a
http://www.halostatue.ca/ =E2=80=A2 http://twitter.com/halostatue

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