[ruby-core:73577] Re: [Ruby trunk - Misc #12004] Code of Conduct

On Fri, Jan 29, 2016 at 1:37 AM, <[e-mail]> wrote:

> Issue #12004 has been updated by Jay S.
>


> Quite simply: nobody on Ruby's mailing list has been harassed or
> marginalized. Not in this thread, and not in any thread to date. I've been
> on the mailing list for quite some time as a lurker. I have seen many very
> heated exchanges, but I've never seen anything that came close to requiring
> any form of moderator action. It's great to have a document to point people
> at to remind them of the etiquette of a mailing list / issue tracker, but
> nobody has overtly (or repeatedly) violated the etiquette without it being
> rectified in the very thread.
>

This statement is not true. There is a post by “ph ph” that includes a
direct threat to push someone from this community through harassment
because of what “ph ph” considers to be ideological impurity. This threat
has not been addressed or retracted (in fact, “ph ph” doubled down on it).

I believe that if a CoC (with enforcable penalties) had existed prior to
> this discussion, you would have seen a number of requests to enforce such a
> CoC on both ends for this thread. If you agree with the above, you would
> also believe that these requests would be knee-jerk reactions to statements
> that others would have misinterpreted as malicious when they were not.
> Again: no CoC rules (even as per Coraline's listing) have *actually* been
> broken here.
>

Again, this statement is not true, even ignoring the direct threat by “ph
ph”. The troll who impersonated Coraline *clearly* broke *any* sensible
convention for a community, as did the anti-Semitic poster (also a troll).
There are a few other posts here which I would consider borderline and
quite possibly *over* the line (a few posts with racist, sexist, and/or
transphobic statements have been made which should *not* be considered
acceptable and most certainly don’t fit the “MINASWAN” ideal that most
opponents to CoCs have declared to be “sufficient”).

-a
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