From: Massimiliano Mirra Date: 2002-03-21T08:05:16+09:00 Subject: Re: Is there anything left but *nix and Windows? On Wed, Mar 20, 2002 at 06:20:02AM +0900, Chris Gehlker wrote: > Which made we wonder if non-*nix is just another work for Windows. It seems > like in the distant past, DEC had VMS, IBM and Data General had their own > non-*nix OSes, and there was something called CPM for PCs. > > But now BeOS is gone and I look around for where Ruby runs and it seems that > it comes down to Windows and *nix. I suppose it might run on Palm Desktop > or something but, If so, the PickAxe Book doesn't mention it. Yes, when I said non-*nix I was thinking mswin32 and Mac, though in that case it had more to do with what platforms concern Ruby users rather than what platforms concern the market. I am optimistic in my own way and will say that the fall of many OSes is not to ascribe only to m$ practices. Why this is optimistic to me I'll tell later. I had been a happy Amiga user for a long time, until it started to stagnate and there were no more tools to get work done, or the hardware costed too much. The real fall happened before the bulk of m$ ``marketing'' or independent of it anyway, and had to do with bad management. Well, now? There was a lot of rumor months ago about the new ``Amigas'', actually no longer a hardware platform but an OS running on a virtual processor by Tao. Great concepts, a lot of potential if well pursued and developed... yet too many people are tired of waiting and hoping that the software houses will give them what they want, they are tired of being dogs in front of a bowl. I remember this distinctly because in the very days these news were out I was deciding whether to install Linux: ``let's even assume that these crazy guys at Amiga Inc. do what they propose and have an incredible success: what will we get in the end if not another m$?'' Some months later, I learnt about BeOS. ``Cool,'' I thought, ``I shall try that.'' But the post that brought it to my attention also referred to the fact that there was a petition asking Be Inc. to release the source code. So it was closed? Well, that was enough to drop below zero my already faint expectations of ever doing any serious work on it. The OS is the ecosystem where what I create, be it code or data, lives. Am I going to create something where not I, but someone else will decide if it can breathe or not? ``I'll give BeOS a try, someday...'' I never did. So you see, I did not encourage BeOS and neither I did encourage AmigaDE, not because I was under the influence of wicked FUDing from some big evil corporation, but just because I was fed up with a certain model. Is this the primary factor for the fall of many OSes? Most probably not. Is this a significant factor? That's a matter of opinion. My optimistic opinion is that it is. Massimiliano