From: patrick-may@... (Patrick May) Date: 2002-03-18T17:43:50+09:00 Subject: we don't have to sell ourselves short... (was Ruby and .NET) In the Ruby & .NET thread, there seemed to be some concern about Ruby and the enterprise world. I think we can give ourselves a bit of credit. The wayback machine is built on Perl and C. How many 'enterprise' applications need 100 terabyte collections? How many 'enterprise' applications have aspirations to archive *every* document ever posted online, every movie ever made, every song ever recorded? If they built that with Perl and C, think about what they could do with Ruby and C! 'Enterprise' has nothing to do with scale, or quality. It is a marketing term for 'shrink wrapped software we sell to an executive for over one thousand dollars'. Scalability and uptime all come from having quality staff, not 'enterprise' software. Languages like C, Perl, and Ruby will time and time again prove themselves to be powerful ways of getting alot done. I think the ..NET's and EJB's should be worried about Ruby, not the other way around. ~ Patrick May P.S. article on wayback machine: http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/a/webservices/2002/01/18/brewster.html P.P.S. A *huge* educational brand's site is currently being migrated from Vignette Story Server to php. It's amazing what you get when switch from spending tons of money on licenses to spending tons of money on service.