[#10209] Market for XML Web stuff — Matt Sergeant <matt@...>

I'm trying to get a handle on what the size of the market for AxKit would be

15 messages 2001/02/01

[#10238] RFC: RubyVM (long) — Robert Feldt <feldt@...>

Hi,

20 messages 2001/02/01
[#10364] Re: RFC: RubyVM (long) — Mathieu Bouchard <matju@...> 2001/02/05

[#10708] Suggestion for threading model — Stephen White <spwhite@...>

I've been playing around with multi-threading. I notice that there are

11 messages 2001/02/11

[#10853] Re: RubyChangeRequest #U002: new proper name for Hash#indexes, Array#indexes — "Mike Wilson" <wmwilson01@...>

10 messages 2001/02/14

[#11037] to_s and << — "Brent Rowland" <tarod@...>

list = [1, 2.3, 'four', false]

15 messages 2001/02/18

[#11094] Re: Summary: RCR #U002 - proper new name fo r indexes — Aleksi Niemel<aleksi.niemela@...>

> On Mon, 19 Feb 2001, Yukihiro Matsumoto wrote:

12 messages 2001/02/19

[#11131] Re: Summary: RCR #U002 - proper new name fo r indexes — "Conrad Schneiker" <schneik@...>

Robert Feldt wrote:

10 messages 2001/02/19

[#11251] Programming Ruby is now online — Dave Thomas <Dave@...>

36 messages 2001/02/21

[#11469] XML-RPC and KDE — schuerig@... (Michael Schuerig)

23 messages 2001/02/24
[#11490] Re: XML-RPC and KDE — schuerig@... (Michael Schuerig) 2001/02/24

Michael Neumann <neumann@s-direktnet.de> wrote:

[#11491] Negative Reviews for Ruby and Programming Ruby — Jim Freeze <jim@...> 2001/02/24

Hi all:

[#11633] RCR: shortcut for instance variable initialization — Dave Thomas <Dave@...>

13 messages 2001/02/26

[#11652] RE: RCR: shortcut for instance variable initialization — Michael Davis <mdavis@...>

I like it!

14 messages 2001/02/27

[#11700] Starting Once Again — Ron Jeffries <ronjeffries@...>

OK, I'm starting again with Ruby. I'm just assuming that I've

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[#11712] RE: Starting Once Again — "Aaron Hinni" <aaron@...> 2001/02/27

> 2. So far I think running under TextPad will be better than running

[#11726] Re: Starting Once Again — Aleksi Niemel<zak@...> 2001/02/28

On Wed, 28 Feb 2001, Aaron Hinni wrote:

[ruby-talk:11571] Re: trial balloon: Ruby desktop?

From: Dave Thomas <Dave@...>
Date: 2001-02-26 06:23:48 UTC
List: ruby-talk #11571
"John van V." <john_van_v@yahoo.com> writes:

> All this data interchange stuff is nice but the only really useful
> application of XML is to the browser itself.  Forget DTDs, all you
> need is a CSS file to give the rendering instructions to your
> specific markup tags.  As much sense as this makes, damn little CSS
> is actually appears in browsers and none of it accomodates XML
> markup (so far).

Having just spent three weeks translating XML back and forth for the
book project, I'd afraid I'd have to disagree with this.

XML _is_ verbose and clumsy, but it can also be expressive. Combine
that with XPATH/XSLT and you can do some really useful data
transformation work remarkably easily. A data source can be completely 
restructured or inverted, for example, but writing some fairly
straightforward XSLT constructs. 

I've never sent XML to a browser to be displayed, but I _do_ use XML
to maintain a single set of pages that is shared in quite different
formats between two web sites.

The main problem with XML is that handling it from within code is
cumbersome. I noticed on one of the Japanese language mailing lists
that someone has produced an xml2rb program. I don't suppose that maps 
a DOM to a set of Ruby objects? That would be seriously useful.


Dave

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