[#10209] Market for XML Web stuff — Matt Sergeant <matt@...>

I'm trying to get a handle on what the size of the market for AxKit would be

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[#10238] RFC: RubyVM (long) — Robert Feldt <feldt@...>

Hi,

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[#10364] Re: RFC: RubyVM (long) — Mathieu Bouchard <matju@...> 2001/02/05

[#10708] Suggestion for threading model — Stephen White <spwhite@...>

I've been playing around with multi-threading. I notice that there are

11 messages 2001/02/11

[#10853] Re: RubyChangeRequest #U002: new proper name for Hash#indexes, Array#indexes — "Mike Wilson" <wmwilson01@...>

10 messages 2001/02/14

[#11037] to_s and << — "Brent Rowland" <tarod@...>

list = [1, 2.3, 'four', false]

15 messages 2001/02/18

[#11094] Re: Summary: RCR #U002 - proper new name fo r indexes — Aleksi Niemel<aleksi.niemela@...>

> On Mon, 19 Feb 2001, Yukihiro Matsumoto wrote:

12 messages 2001/02/19

[#11131] Re: Summary: RCR #U002 - proper new name fo r indexes — "Conrad Schneiker" <schneik@...>

Robert Feldt wrote:

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[#11251] Programming Ruby is now online — Dave Thomas <Dave@...>

36 messages 2001/02/21

[#11469] XML-RPC and KDE — schuerig@... (Michael Schuerig)

23 messages 2001/02/24
[#11490] Re: XML-RPC and KDE — schuerig@... (Michael Schuerig) 2001/02/24

Michael Neumann <neumann@s-direktnet.de> wrote:

[#11491] Negative Reviews for Ruby and Programming Ruby — Jim Freeze <jim@...> 2001/02/24

Hi all:

[#11633] RCR: shortcut for instance variable initialization — Dave Thomas <Dave@...>

13 messages 2001/02/26

[#11652] RE: RCR: shortcut for instance variable initialization — Michael Davis <mdavis@...>

I like it!

14 messages 2001/02/27

[#11700] Starting Once Again — Ron Jeffries <ronjeffries@...>

OK, I'm starting again with Ruby. I'm just assuming that I've

31 messages 2001/02/27
[#11712] RE: Starting Once Again — "Aaron Hinni" <aaron@...> 2001/02/27

> 2. So far I think running under TextPad will be better than running

[#11726] Re: Starting Once Again — Aleksi Niemel<zak@...> 2001/02/28

On Wed, 28 Feb 2001, Aaron Hinni wrote:

[ruby-talk:10670] Re: How to convince management

From: Michael Neumann <neumann@...>
Date: 2001-02-10 11:46:22 UTC
List: ruby-talk #10670
On Fri, 9 Feb 2001, Phil Tomson wrote:

> I wrote a project proposal for an upcoming project and I proposed that we
> use Ruby for it.  In the project planning meeting the proposal to use Ruby
> was strongly opposed by management types - "We use C++ and Perl for
> projects here and that's it!  This project will be done in Perl!".  I
> managed to get them to at least let me schedule a future meeting where I
> will present the case for using Ruby.
>
> Background - This is an internal application for distributing testcases to
> several client machines on a network.  Results from running testcases need
> to be gathered from client machines and results posted on an internal
> website that must be updated as tests are run.  To me it seems a natural
> dRuby application - objects running on remote machines which take care of
> running testcases as they come in from a central server.  Other objects
> taking care of 'harvesting' results data and sending it to the web server.
> Currently we use Perl for a similar system that is not distributed (it has
> just a single client and a single server) hence the push for continuing to
> user Perl.
>
> Managment is understandably suspicious of using Ruby - they've never heard
> of it before and they don't know if it is stable.  They say there is no
> in-house Ruby expertise (actually only myself and one other programmer
> would be working on the system and I don't think it would be difficult to
> transition from Perl to Ruby for either of us).
>
> Has anyone else out there faced a similar situation and succeeded in
> convincing management?  Does anyone out there have success stories about
> using Ruby for fairly largescale projects that I can show to my
> management?

I have the same problem :)
In our company there's no Perl but Python.

Because we want to use XML-RPC, and Python has no XML-RPC server,
I have coded XML-RPC for Ruby, which will be used now.

So I hope to convince them, that Ruby is much better than Python.



>
> Thanks.
>
> Phil
>
>

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Michael Neumann

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