[#10198] POLS question: returning from a closure — David Alan Black <dblack@...>
Hello --
[#10209] Market for XML Web stuff — Matt Sergeant <matt@...>
I'm trying to get a handle on what the size of the market for AxKit would be
> mod_fastcgi with ruby is stable and IMHO a much better architecture
Joseph McDonald wrote:
On Fri, 2 Feb 2001, Joseph McDonald wrote:
Hi,
Hi,
Hi,
[#10232] ANN: Slide show available — Dave Thomas <Dave@...>
[#10238] RFC: RubyVM (long) — Robert Feldt <feldt@...>
Hi,
On Sun, 4 Feb 2001, Mathieu Bouchard wrote:
On Mon, 5 Feb 2001, Robert Feldt wrote:
--- Mathieu Bouchard and Robert Feldt wrote:
On Tue, 13 Feb 2001, John van V. wrote:
[#10256] Re: ANN: Slide show available(Publicity for Ruby) — "Ben Tilly" <ben_tilly@...>
Dave Thomas <Dave@PragmaticProgrammer.com> wrote:
[#10271] Telnet program in ruby? — Hugh Sasse Staff Elec Eng <hgs@...>
Given the existence of Tk widget demos in Ruby, and the net/telnet module,
[#10277] Re: configure shebang paths for apache cgi? — "Ben Tilly" <ben_tilly@...>
Jim Freeze <jim@freeze.org> wrote:
[#10290] Re: configure shebang paths for apache cgi? — "Morris, Chris" <ChrisM@...>
> For that to work, you need 'ruby' in your $PATH. Try "which ruby".
[#10307] Re: Local directory search "server" script — Mike Wilson <wmwilson1@...>
[#10317] TCPServer - bug in documentation ? — Michael Neumann <neumann@...>
Hi,
[#10328] Multi-dimensional Array — Jason <jasowong@...>
Hi All,
[#10336] ObjectSpace.each_object & terminated objects — Dave Thomas <Dave@...>
[#10385] Structured text matching? — schuerig@... (Michael Schuerig)
[#10386] Ruby/Tk, what am I doing wrong... — "Noel Rappin" <noel.rappin@...>
Now I'm diving into Ruby/Tk and I have some newbie type questions...
[#10399] Ruby users in Sydney? — harryo@... (Harry Ohlsen)
I was just wondering how many of the people who read this newgroup are
Harry Ohlsen wrote:
[#10419] Installing on Mandrake 7.1 — peterhi@...
I have the 1.6.2 tarball and I've unpacked it to /root/x. I've then run
[#10420] Preemptive scheduling? — wys@... (Clemens Wyss)
In the following example:
[#10424] generic method — ts <decoux@...>
[#10434] Serialization/persistence/marshalling to/from XML? — Kent Dahl <kentda@...>
Is there a library or framework for serializing a hierarchy of Ruby
[#10442] Re: book review? — "Mike Wilson" <wmwilson01@...>
[#10452] Re: Recall Regexp options? — "Ben Tilly" <ben_tilly@...>
matz@zetabits.com (Yukihiro Matsumoto) wrote:
[#10477] threads and resolving names — "Joseph McDonald" <joe@...>
Hi,
Hi,
[#10518] Embedded Ruby (Part III) — Olivier CARRERE <olivier@...>
Hi all,
[#10521] RE: Need a Jpn->Eng Translator? — Aleksi Niemel<aleksi.niemela@...>
Neil Johnson wrote:
[#10522] Prioritize the need for documentation — Aleksi Niemel<aleksi.niemela@...>
As I promised in mail [ruby-talk:10521], I'm querying the opinion of the
[#10534] Re: Embedded Ruby (Part III) — "Ben Tilly" <ben_tilly@...>
Olivier CARRERE <olivier@vibes.net> wrote:
[#10549] Giving a Proc utility methods? — "Ben Tilly" <ben_tilly@...>
Here is my situation. I have a class, call it Foo.
[#10566] Rubygarden.com? — Hugh Sasse Staff Elec Eng <hgs@...>
What is the purpose of Rubygarden.com? I know that
[#10577] Word wrap algorithm — "Morris, Chris" <ChrisM@...>
I'm in need of a word wrap method -- anyone know of an existing one
[#10592] Re: Are """ here documents here to stay? :-) — ts <decoux@...>
>>>>> "R" == Robert Feldt <feldt@ce.chalmers.se> writes:
On Fri, 9 Feb 2001, ts wrote:
[#10646] Need other Links to English InstallShield version of Ruby? — "Conrad Schneiker" <schneik@...>
I see "The English InstallShield version of Ruby" is on the "What's New"
[#10682] RE: heap data structure — Michael Davis <mdavis@...>
Can I make the heap a static or fixed size? For example, I want the heap to be 2K regardless of how many items it contains.
[#10684] Passing on a block to a called method — schuerig@... (Michael Schuerig)
[#10692] stopping a thread instance — "Guy N. Hurst" <gnhurst@...>
Hi,
[#10708] Suggestion for threading model — Stephen White <spwhite@...>
I've been playing around with multi-threading. I notice that there are
----- Original Message -----
In message <Pine.LNX.4.21.0102120019340.878-100000@localhost.localdomain>
[#10715] Threading model change, proposal — "Gaston Fong" <gastonfong@...>
I have been thinking for a while on the pros and cons of relying on
[#10718] Eric S. Raymond mentions Ruby but ... — Robert Feldt <feldt@...>
[#10777] Re: RFC: RubyVM (long) — Robert Feldt <feldt@...>
On Tue, 13 Feb 2001, Mathieu Bouchard wrote:
[#10778] perform. of Dir["**/*"] — "Richard Hensh" <hensh@...>
Now that someone has straightened me out on the use of **, I have a
[#10802] iowa, segfaults — Jonas Bulow <jonas.bulow@...>
Hi,
[#10839] Re: RCR's — "Mike Wilson" <wmwilson01@...>
[#10853] Re: RubyChangeRequest #U002: new proper name for Hash#indexes, Array#indexes — "Mike Wilson" <wmwilson01@...>
matz@zetabits.com (Yukihiro Matsumoto) writes:
On Thu, 15 Feb 2001, Dave Thomas wrote:
On Thu, 15 Feb 2001, David Alan Black wrote:
On Fri, 16 Feb 2001, Mathieu Bouchard wrote:
[#10906] Avoid bad advocacy, please — "Ben Tilly" <ben_tilly@...>
Last night I went to a talk by Damian Conway. (Wonderful
[#10909] rwiki *hangs* in send() — wys@... (Clemens Wyss)
I am trying to install rwiki (1.1) on my linux box (running Ruby 1.7.0).
[#10912] Making Hash from two lists — Kenichi Komiya <kom@...1.accsnet.ne.jp>
[#10924] Mashal.dump 10000 records, Marshal.load only reads 9939 records — Michael Davis <mdavis@...>
I have provided a small ruby script to test Marshal dump and how efficient
On Fri, 16 Feb 2001, Michael Davis wrote:
[#10943] ANN: Windows Installer for 1.6.2 — andy@... (Andrew Hunt)
I am pleased to announce that the 1.6.2 version
[#10966] RCR Summary 02/16/01 — "Mike Wilson" <wmwilson01@...>
I thought that maybe every Friday, I could list the open change requests to
[#11007] Generators (was: RCR Summary 02/16/01 -suspend) — jweirich@...
[#11017] inconsistency — Mathieu Bouchard <matju@...>
At 03:27 2/18/2001 +0900, you wrote:
[#11037] to_s and << — "Brent Rowland" <tarod@...>
list = [1, 2.3, 'four', false]
On Sun, 18 Feb 2001, Brent Rowland wrote:
On Sun, 18 Feb 2001, Stephen White wrote:
On Sun, 18 Feb 2001, David Alan Black wrote:
[#11065] MetaRuby 0.5 — Mathieu Bouchard <matju@...>
[#11068] Re: to_s and << — "Ben Tilly" <ben_tilly@...>
craig duncan <duncan@nycap.rr.com> wrote:
[#11094] Re: Summary: RCR #U002 - proper new name fo r indexes — Aleksi Niemel<aleksi.niemela@...>
> On Mon, 19 Feb 2001, Yukihiro Matsumoto wrote:
[#11113] Auto-magically determine your class/method in Ruby — Bryan Zarnett <bryan_zarnett@...>
Is their a way to auto-magically determine the class
Bryan Zarnett <bryan_zarnett@yahoo.ca> writes:
On Tue, 20 Feb 2001, Dave Thomas wrote:
I agree, having the calling class as part of caller
[#11116] RE: TCPSocket.open() lasts 2 minutes (was: rwik i *hangs* in send()) — Aleksi Niemel<aleksi.niemela@...>
Clemens wrote:
[#11131] Re: Summary: RCR #U002 - proper new name fo r indexes — "Conrad Schneiker" <schneik@...>
Robert Feldt wrote:
On Tue, 20 Feb 2001, Conrad Schneiker wrote:
On Tue, 20 Feb 2001, David Alan Black wrote:
On Tue, 20 Feb 2001, Mathieu Bouchard wrote:
[#11132] Problem compiling in MySQL support — "Carl Youngblood" <carlyoungblood@...>
I'm trying to install MySQL support for Ruby on my redhat 7.0 linux box.
[#11139] Re: One source tree for Ruby & modules — "Conrad Schneiker" <schneik@...>
Stephen White wrote:
[#11185] ANN: RubyCHannel -> Rwiki w. Online Ruby Interpreter — wys@... (Clemens Wyss)
Hi,
Hi,
"NAKAMURA, Hiroshi" <nahi@keynauts.com> wrote in
Hi Clemens,
"NAKAMURA, Hiroshi" <nahi@keynauts.com> wrote in
[#11188] better "gets"? — Nikita Proskourine <nop1@...>
Hi,
[#11191] Telnet/SSH service — nickb@... (Nick Bensema)
I'm among a group of people who are trying to get a simple BBS server up,
[#11225] Re: ANN: RubyCHannel -> Rwiki w. Online Ruby Interpreter — "Conrad Schneiker" <schneik@...>
Clemens Wyss wrote:
[#11237] Re: C scripting using Ruby (instead of Perl)? — "Ben Tilly" <ben_tilly@...>
ts <decoux@moulon.inra.fr> wrote:
[#11251] Programming Ruby is now online — Dave Thomas <Dave@...>
On Thu, 22 Feb 2001 07:24:51 +0900, Dave Thomas wrote:
Guillaume Cottenceau <gc@mandrakesoft.com> writes:
[#11270] Re: Programming Ruby is now online — "Ben Tilly" <ben_tilly@...>
Dave Thomas <Dave@PragmaticProgrammer.com> wrote:
[#11272] musings about Hash#each_with_index — David Alan Black <dblack@...>
Hello --
[#11316] Bottles of Beer finally in Ruby — Jim Menard <jimm@...>
The following URL contains a collection of programs to print the words to
[#11357] binding to callers namespace. — "Joseph McDonald" <joe@...>
[#11378] Emacs-mode? — "Noel Rappin" <noel.rappin@...>
I'd really appreciate it if somebody could give me a pointer on how to get
[#11381] Re: Time without seconds (updated/fixed) — Kevin Smith <sent@...>
ts wrote:
On Sat, 24 Feb 2001, Kevin Smith wrote:
[#11386] Re: Time without seconds (updated/fixed) — ts <decoux@...>
>>>>> "D" == David Alan Black <dblack@candle.superlink.net> writes:
[#11391] trial balloon: Ruby desktop? — Jon Aseltine <aseltine@...>
Hi,
[#11403] Re: trial balloon: Ruby desktop? — Steve Tuckner <SAT@...>
This sounds like a very interesting idea (to me) if the goal was to use it
On Sat, 24 Feb 2001, Steve Tuckner wrote:
[#11422] Dir#each -- include '.'? — Neil Conway <nconway@...>
Hi all,
[#11432] Esperanto (was: trial balloon: Ruby desktop?) — Kevin Smith <sent@...>
Brent Rowland wrote:
On Friday 23 February 2001 23:44, Kevin Smith wrote:
[#11461] French Translation — Mathieu Bouchard <matju@...>
[#11469] XML-RPC and KDE — schuerig@... (Michael Schuerig)
Michael Neumann <neumann@s-direktnet.de> wrote:
Hi all:
[#11483] Re: Esperanto (was: trial balloon: Ruby desktop?) — "Ben Tilly" <ben_tilly@...>
nickb@fnord.io.com (Nick Bensema) wrote:
[#11487] TCPSocket Problem? — "Chris New" <chris@...>
I am using 1.6.2 on both Redhat 6.1 and Redhat 7.0.
[#11511] ANN: ri - the Ruby Interactive reference — Dave Thomas <Dave@...>
[#11534] Re: Negative Reviews for Ruby and ProgrammingRuby — Kevin Smith <sent@...>
jeremy@chaos.org.uk wrote:
[#11594] Re: A design/implementation question — "Ben Tilly" <ben_tilly@...>
Dave Thomas <Dave@PragmaticProgrammer.com> wrote:
[#11595] Net::FTP — "Patrick Down" <pdown@...>
Hi, I am new to Ruby. I was trying out the Net::FTP object using
[#11633] RCR: shortcut for instance variable initialization — Dave Thomas <Dave@...>
In article <m2d7c5vxnl.fsf@zip.local.thomases.com>, Dave Thomas wrote:
r2d2@mao.acc.umu.se (Niklas Frykholm) writes:
[#11643] capturing regex matches. — "Joseph McDonald" <joe@...>
[#11647] assert() library in Ruby? — Eric Sven Ristad <ristad@...>
How can I achieve the effect of the assert() macro from C in Ruby?
Eric Sven Ristad <ristad@mnemonic.com> writes:
[#11648] Putting methods in arrays — Alex McHale <lists@...>
Hi there,
[#11652] RE: RCR: shortcut for instance variable initialization — Michael Davis <mdavis@...>
I like it!
[#11700] Starting Once Again — Ron Jeffries <ronjeffries@...>
OK, I'm starting again with Ruby. I'm just assuming that I've
> 2. So far I think running under TextPad will be better than running
On Wed, 28 Feb 2001, Aaron Hinni wrote:
"Eugene Ventimiglia" <eventi@nyic.com> writes:
One more thing:
[#11727] Re: Starting Once Again — "Conrad Schneiker" <schneik@...>
Aaron Hinni wrote:
[#11729] Interfacing with Java (sort-of) — "Conrad Schneiker" <schneik@...>
Hi,
[#11788] building n-grams — Arno Erpenbeck <aerpenbe@...>
Greetings everybody,
[#11802] list classmethods of a class — wys@... (Clemens Wyss)
I tried, but didn't find out how to get the list of classmethods of a
[ruby-talk:10650] Re: How to convince management
I would say that their number one objections if you guys use Perl is "If it isn't broken, don't fix it.." Perl is well-known and functional, obviously it's been working for you guys.. Management types think with the money hair on the back of their neck and it's their job to keep things running and making money! They see the switch from Perl (the well-known) to Ruby (the unknown, to them) as dangerous and potentially something that could cost them money.. That is a valid concern as switching programming languages is always dangerous and will always take time (programmers have to learn the language etc). They should object initially, I wouldn't have expected any less.. Show them all the things people have written in Ruby (Ruby application archive), assure them again and again that Ruby isn't bleeding edge, that it's been around for a long time and there are some good books and a good support mailing list if you run into trouble etc etc.. If that doesn't work, start lighting fires around the office until they give you the go-ahead. (Kidding, of course).. Good luck!!! -Mitch ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin Smith" <sent@qualitycode.com> To: "ruby-talk ML" <ruby-talk@ruby-lang.org> Sent: Friday, February 09, 2001 12:54 PM Subject: [ruby-talk:10633] Re: How to convince management > ptkwt@shell1.aracnet.com wrote: > >Managment is understandably suspicious of using Ruby - they've never heard > >of it before and they don't know if it is stable. They say there is no > >in-house Ruby expertise (actually only myself and one other programmer > >would be working on the system and I don't think it would be difficult to > >transition from Perl to Ruby for either of us). > > Try to find out what the *real* objections are, > which may or may not be the stated objections. > They might be helped by seeing the pickaxe book > in person, or by reading the interview(s?) with > Larry Wall that mention Ruby, or by seeing that > Ruby will be represented at an upcoming industry > conference, or by the articles in recent > magazines, etc. > > Stability should be addressable. I've used Ruby > to write two GUI applications (email: 1kloc, > strategy board game: 3kloc). The highly-respected > Pragmatic Programmers are using it in their > professional practice. > > In-house expertise shouldn't be a showstopper. > Surely at some point they'll want to take on > something that they've never used before. Ruby is > similar enough to Perl that the transition should > be pretty easy. Does management have a general > opposition to trying new things? > > There may be some psychology going on behind the > scenes. Maybe someone is addicted to Perl. Or > maybe a manager knows Perl but is afraid to learn > anything new and doesn't want to be left out. > > Ask gentle questions to discover the *real* > objections. > > Kevin >