[#10209] Market for XML Web stuff — Matt Sergeant <matt@...>

I'm trying to get a handle on what the size of the market for AxKit would be

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[#10238] RFC: RubyVM (long) — Robert Feldt <feldt@...>

Hi,

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[#10364] Re: RFC: RubyVM (long) — Mathieu Bouchard <matju@...> 2001/02/05

[#10708] Suggestion for threading model — Stephen White <spwhite@...>

I've been playing around with multi-threading. I notice that there are

11 messages 2001/02/11

[#10853] Re: RubyChangeRequest #U002: new proper name for Hash#indexes, Array#indexes — "Mike Wilson" <wmwilson01@...>

10 messages 2001/02/14

[#11037] to_s and << — "Brent Rowland" <tarod@...>

list = [1, 2.3, 'four', false]

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[#11094] Re: Summary: RCR #U002 - proper new name fo r indexes — Aleksi Niemel<aleksi.niemela@...>

> On Mon, 19 Feb 2001, Yukihiro Matsumoto wrote:

12 messages 2001/02/19

[#11131] Re: Summary: RCR #U002 - proper new name fo r indexes — "Conrad Schneiker" <schneik@...>

Robert Feldt wrote:

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[#11251] Programming Ruby is now online — Dave Thomas <Dave@...>

36 messages 2001/02/21

[#11469] XML-RPC and KDE — schuerig@... (Michael Schuerig)

23 messages 2001/02/24
[#11490] Re: XML-RPC and KDE — schuerig@... (Michael Schuerig) 2001/02/24

Michael Neumann <neumann@s-direktnet.de> wrote:

[#11491] Negative Reviews for Ruby and Programming Ruby — Jim Freeze <jim@...> 2001/02/24

Hi all:

[#11633] RCR: shortcut for instance variable initialization — Dave Thomas <Dave@...>

13 messages 2001/02/26

[#11652] RE: RCR: shortcut for instance variable initialization — Michael Davis <mdavis@...>

I like it!

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[#11700] Starting Once Again — Ron Jeffries <ronjeffries@...>

OK, I'm starting again with Ruby. I'm just assuming that I've

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[#11712] RE: Starting Once Again — "Aaron Hinni" <aaron@...> 2001/02/27

> 2. So far I think running under TextPad will be better than running

[#11726] Re: Starting Once Again — Aleksi Niemel<zak@...> 2001/02/28

On Wed, 28 Feb 2001, Aaron Hinni wrote:

[ruby-talk:11444] Re: trial balloon: Ruby desktop?

From: Jon Aseltine <aseltine@...>
Date: 2001-02-24 11:19:08 UTC
List: ruby-talk #11444
Kevin Smith wrote:
> Obviously several people are very interested. I
> might be, but need to understand more about what
> you are really suggesting. Also, there is a
> potential to have plans so ambitious that they
> may never bear fruit, or may take so long that
> the miss many opportunities (I'm thinking of
> projects like Mozilla and HURD).

Exactly! I don't have all the answers, but as a collective we may be
able to specify things well enough.

> 
> So, can you describe in one sentence the
> absolute, minimum, bare-bones Ruby-based desktop
> that you could envision wanting to run on your
> own desktop? What would it do for you?

For this, I would say an application framework and a limited set of core
applications that everyone uses (email, text editor, browser, file
manager, etc). I'm not sure where the boundaries between applications
will lie. Perhaps these applications are really just interfaces over a
coordinated set of components? New applications should be easy to
develop. And the whole thing should be intuitive for the user (I would
like to see some HCI people involved from the outset).

> 
> Then, can you add a few more sentences describing
> additional functionality that would improve the
> product?
> 
> Finally, can you give a couple sentences to
> describe how you envision the end result?
> Comparisons with MSWindows, Gnome, KDE, and other
> existing systems would be especially helpful
> here.


I dunno, I can't see that far ahead right now. But I do see something
that it easier to extend, logically designed, more intuitive to use
(with lots of consistency between applications), and far more robust.
But we probably need to make things explicit before anyone gets started.
As I said, I don't have all the answers.

Jon
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