[#10209] Market for XML Web stuff — Matt Sergeant <matt@...>

I'm trying to get a handle on what the size of the market for AxKit would be

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[#10238] RFC: RubyVM (long) — Robert Feldt <feldt@...>

Hi,

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[#10364] Re: RFC: RubyVM (long) — Mathieu Bouchard <matju@...> 2001/02/05

[#10708] Suggestion for threading model — Stephen White <spwhite@...>

I've been playing around with multi-threading. I notice that there are

11 messages 2001/02/11

[#10853] Re: RubyChangeRequest #U002: new proper name for Hash#indexes, Array#indexes — "Mike Wilson" <wmwilson01@...>

10 messages 2001/02/14

[#11037] to_s and << — "Brent Rowland" <tarod@...>

list = [1, 2.3, 'four', false]

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[#11094] Re: Summary: RCR #U002 - proper new name fo r indexes — Aleksi Niemel<aleksi.niemela@...>

> On Mon, 19 Feb 2001, Yukihiro Matsumoto wrote:

12 messages 2001/02/19

[#11131] Re: Summary: RCR #U002 - proper new name fo r indexes — "Conrad Schneiker" <schneik@...>

Robert Feldt wrote:

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[#11251] Programming Ruby is now online — Dave Thomas <Dave@...>

36 messages 2001/02/21

[#11469] XML-RPC and KDE — schuerig@... (Michael Schuerig)

23 messages 2001/02/24
[#11490] Re: XML-RPC and KDE — schuerig@... (Michael Schuerig) 2001/02/24

Michael Neumann <neumann@s-direktnet.de> wrote:

[#11491] Negative Reviews for Ruby and Programming Ruby — Jim Freeze <jim@...> 2001/02/24

Hi all:

[#11633] RCR: shortcut for instance variable initialization — Dave Thomas <Dave@...>

13 messages 2001/02/26

[#11652] RE: RCR: shortcut for instance variable initialization — Michael Davis <mdavis@...>

I like it!

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[#11700] Starting Once Again — Ron Jeffries <ronjeffries@...>

OK, I'm starting again with Ruby. I'm just assuming that I've

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[#11712] RE: Starting Once Again — "Aaron Hinni" <aaron@...> 2001/02/27

> 2. So far I think running under TextPad will be better than running

[#11726] Re: Starting Once Again — Aleksi Niemel<zak@...> 2001/02/28

On Wed, 28 Feb 2001, Aaron Hinni wrote:

[ruby-talk:10627] Re: How to convince management

From: Dave Thomas <Dave@...>
Date: 2001-02-09 14:31:33 UTC
List: ruby-talk #10627
ptkwt@shell1.aracnet.com (Phil Tomson) writes:

> Managment is understandably suspicious of using Ruby - they've never heard 
> of it before and they don't know if it is stable.  They say there is no 
> in-house Ruby expertise (actually only myself and one other programmer 
> would be working on the system and I don't think it would be difficult to 
> transition from Perl to Ruby for either of us).
> 
> Has anyone else out there faced a similar situation and succeeded in 
> convincing management?  Does anyone out there have success stories about 
> using Ruby for fairly largescale projects that I can show to my 
> management?

Firstly, your management is right to be wary of using something
they've never heard of. From their perspective, using Ruby would be a
risk.

But, you could turn that around. In the business world, you take risks
when there are commensurate rewards. In this case, you might want to
show them the benefits on using Ruby in this situation, and explain
how taking this step will give them a more maintainable application in
less time. Perhaps you might want to illustrate this: spend an hour of
your own time putting together a dRB application where one machine
interacts with dRB objects on a number of other machines. Then show
them the code, and tell them how easy it was. Finally suggest that if
they want to kick the tires of this new technology, an internal
project would be a good place to start.

I know of one company here in Dallas that is using Ruby as the
scripting interface to a very complex telecom testing system. This is
a large-scale commercial product which will be shipping shortly, and
in some ways it revolves around Ruby. Andy and I have been delivering
Ruby software to clients now for over a year.


Good luck!


Dave

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