[#10209] Market for XML Web stuff — Matt Sergeant <matt@...>

I'm trying to get a handle on what the size of the market for AxKit would be

15 messages 2001/02/01

[#10238] RFC: RubyVM (long) — Robert Feldt <feldt@...>

Hi,

20 messages 2001/02/01
[#10364] Re: RFC: RubyVM (long) — Mathieu Bouchard <matju@...> 2001/02/05

[#10708] Suggestion for threading model — Stephen White <spwhite@...>

I've been playing around with multi-threading. I notice that there are

11 messages 2001/02/11

[#10853] Re: RubyChangeRequest #U002: new proper name for Hash#indexes, Array#indexes — "Mike Wilson" <wmwilson01@...>

10 messages 2001/02/14

[#11037] to_s and << — "Brent Rowland" <tarod@...>

list = [1, 2.3, 'four', false]

15 messages 2001/02/18

[#11094] Re: Summary: RCR #U002 - proper new name fo r indexes — Aleksi Niemel<aleksi.niemela@...>

> On Mon, 19 Feb 2001, Yukihiro Matsumoto wrote:

12 messages 2001/02/19

[#11131] Re: Summary: RCR #U002 - proper new name fo r indexes — "Conrad Schneiker" <schneik@...>

Robert Feldt wrote:

10 messages 2001/02/19

[#11251] Programming Ruby is now online — Dave Thomas <Dave@...>

36 messages 2001/02/21

[#11469] XML-RPC and KDE — schuerig@... (Michael Schuerig)

23 messages 2001/02/24
[#11490] Re: XML-RPC and KDE — schuerig@... (Michael Schuerig) 2001/02/24

Michael Neumann <neumann@s-direktnet.de> wrote:

[#11491] Negative Reviews for Ruby and Programming Ruby — Jim Freeze <jim@...> 2001/02/24

Hi all:

[#11633] RCR: shortcut for instance variable initialization — Dave Thomas <Dave@...>

13 messages 2001/02/26

[#11652] RE: RCR: shortcut for instance variable initialization — Michael Davis <mdavis@...>

I like it!

14 messages 2001/02/27

[#11700] Starting Once Again — Ron Jeffries <ronjeffries@...>

OK, I'm starting again with Ruby. I'm just assuming that I've

31 messages 2001/02/27
[#11712] RE: Starting Once Again — "Aaron Hinni" <aaron@...> 2001/02/27

> 2. So far I think running under TextPad will be better than running

[#11726] Re: Starting Once Again — Aleksi Niemel<zak@...> 2001/02/28

On Wed, 28 Feb 2001, Aaron Hinni wrote:

[ruby-talk:10242] Re: ANN: Slide show available(Publicity for Ruby)

From: Mike Wilson <wmwilson1@...>
Date: 2001-02-02 02:15:24 UTC
List: ruby-talk #10242
-----Original Message-----
From: "Phil Tomson"<ptkwt@user2.teleport.com>
To: "ruby-talk ML"<ruby-talk@netlab.co.jp>
Date: Thu Feb 01 16:40:02 PST 2001
Subject: [ruby-talk:10240] Re: ANN: Slide show available(Publicity for Ruby)

>In article <m2n1c69p0x.fsf@zip.local.thomases.com>,
>Dave Thomas  <Dave@PragmaticProgrammer.com> wrote:
>>
>>Last night I took my life in my hands and presented Ruby to the local
>>Perl Monger's chapter. It went very well: they were very receptive to
>>the ideas behind Ruby, and we all had a great time.
>>
>>In case anyone else feels the need to spread the word, I put the
>>presentation I used (in StarOffice format) at
>>
>>   http://www.pragmaticprogrammer.com/ruby/downloads/presentation.html
>>
>
>It might be a good idea to also forward announcements like this to places
>like Linux Weekly News, for example, in order to spread the word about
>Ruby.  In order for Ruby to gain more well-deserved acceptance we'll need
>to do a bit of PR work.  A few weeks back I sent a message to lwn.net
>about the Dr. Dobb's Ruby article and asked them if they could include
>Ruby in their Development Languages Links - and they did!  Now we should
>be sending in some of these announcements (the announcement about IOWA
>would be good to send as well) their email is: lwn@lwn.net
>
>Another idea: Maybe somebody could write up a weekly summary of the
>highlights of the discussions on this Ruby List, for example and send that
>in to LWN as well.
>
>Any other ideas?
>
>Phil

I would second that!  Let's face it, PR can really make or break a language, I'd hate to see Ruby left in the dust because we weren't vocal enough.

I have one more suggestion in the PR range, I'm working on this a bit myself, but I'm probably not nearly the right candidate.  Someone should _really_ do a book review of "Programming Ruby" to post on slashdot.  _If_ it's well written and you say pretty please, I'm sure it would probably be posted to the front page (not all reviews are).  There's a perlmonk called chromatic that does a ton of reviews, usually on Perl, most recently on "Extreme Programming Installed".  He (almost?) always gets on the front page, so a look at what he's doing might be helpful.  I know the fact that ruby was mentioned (2000 lines down and not on the front page) a week or so ago prompted a few folks to poke their heads in, I'm sure a front page story would do much more.

As far as the weekly summary goes, I know that Alex of RubyMine (http://www.ale.cx/mine) has 1 mailing list summary from November (http://www.ale.cx/mine/mls/mls-2000-11-08-2000-11-15.html) that he did.  It was very well done and maybe he'll continue to do that?  I've been sticking the more major events on http://ruby.weblogs.com, so if Alex can't continue I could possibly expand and pick it up...

Mike Wilson
Unix Administrator
http://ruby.weblogs.com
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