[#10209] Market for XML Web stuff — Matt Sergeant <matt@...>

I'm trying to get a handle on what the size of the market for AxKit would be

15 messages 2001/02/01

[#10238] RFC: RubyVM (long) — Robert Feldt <feldt@...>

Hi,

20 messages 2001/02/01
[#10364] Re: RFC: RubyVM (long) — Mathieu Bouchard <matju@...> 2001/02/05

[#10708] Suggestion for threading model — Stephen White <spwhite@...>

I've been playing around with multi-threading. I notice that there are

11 messages 2001/02/11

[#10853] Re: RubyChangeRequest #U002: new proper name for Hash#indexes, Array#indexes — "Mike Wilson" <wmwilson01@...>

10 messages 2001/02/14

[#11037] to_s and << — "Brent Rowland" <tarod@...>

list = [1, 2.3, 'four', false]

15 messages 2001/02/18

[#11094] Re: Summary: RCR #U002 - proper new name fo r indexes — Aleksi Niemel<aleksi.niemela@...>

> On Mon, 19 Feb 2001, Yukihiro Matsumoto wrote:

12 messages 2001/02/19

[#11131] Re: Summary: RCR #U002 - proper new name fo r indexes — "Conrad Schneiker" <schneik@...>

Robert Feldt wrote:

10 messages 2001/02/19

[#11251] Programming Ruby is now online — Dave Thomas <Dave@...>

36 messages 2001/02/21

[#11469] XML-RPC and KDE — schuerig@... (Michael Schuerig)

23 messages 2001/02/24
[#11490] Re: XML-RPC and KDE — schuerig@... (Michael Schuerig) 2001/02/24

Michael Neumann <neumann@s-direktnet.de> wrote:

[#11491] Negative Reviews for Ruby and Programming Ruby — Jim Freeze <jim@...> 2001/02/24

Hi all:

[#11633] RCR: shortcut for instance variable initialization — Dave Thomas <Dave@...>

13 messages 2001/02/26

[#11652] RE: RCR: shortcut for instance variable initialization — Michael Davis <mdavis@...>

I like it!

14 messages 2001/02/27

[#11700] Starting Once Again — Ron Jeffries <ronjeffries@...>

OK, I'm starting again with Ruby. I'm just assuming that I've

31 messages 2001/02/27
[#11712] RE: Starting Once Again — "Aaron Hinni" <aaron@...> 2001/02/27

> 2. So far I think running under TextPad will be better than running

[#11726] Re: Starting Once Again — Aleksi Niemel<zak@...> 2001/02/28

On Wed, 28 Feb 2001, Aaron Hinni wrote:

[ruby-talk:11565] Re: trial balloon: Ruby desktop?

From: "John van V." <john_van_v@...>
Date: 2001-02-26 05:04:41 UTC
List: ruby-talk #11565
Kent Starr, elderburn@mindspring.com 
> It can also be thought of a a meta-language, in that, with XML you define 
> customized tags and ...
> ...then we can exchange even 
> highly customized data unique to our respective needs

The huge cost of this is performance, the other is that XML has some really
wierd constructs that are not easily parsed.  OTOH, most OO languages use the
same complex sturcture map, perl is wider in that it allows a mixing of arrays
and hashes.

XML has a lot of stuff borrowed from the HTML family which has no place except
in browser documents.  XML proponents would have you build your dataservers to
their constructs, a headache nobody needs.

All this data interchange stuff is nice but the only really useful application
of XML is to the browser itself.  Forget DTDs, all you need is a CSS file to
give the rendering instructions to your specific markup tags.  As much sense as
this makes, damn little CSS is actually appears in browsers and none of it
accomodates XML markup (so far).

Personaly, I would just stick to a handful of languages and parse complex
structures between them, assuming they have the same level of complex structure
complexity.  My ideal is to be able to serialize and emit complex data
stuctures including anonymous methods as well as machine code to remote
receivers.

John




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