[#10198] POLS question: returning from a closure — David Alan Black <dblack@...>
Hello --
[#10209] Market for XML Web stuff — Matt Sergeant <matt@...>
I'm trying to get a handle on what the size of the market for AxKit would be
> mod_fastcgi with ruby is stable and IMHO a much better architecture
Joseph McDonald wrote:
On Fri, 2 Feb 2001, Joseph McDonald wrote:
Hi,
Hi,
Hi,
[#10232] ANN: Slide show available — Dave Thomas <Dave@...>
[#10238] RFC: RubyVM (long) — Robert Feldt <feldt@...>
Hi,
On Sun, 4 Feb 2001, Mathieu Bouchard wrote:
On Mon, 5 Feb 2001, Robert Feldt wrote:
--- Mathieu Bouchard and Robert Feldt wrote:
On Tue, 13 Feb 2001, John van V. wrote:
[#10256] Re: ANN: Slide show available(Publicity for Ruby) — "Ben Tilly" <ben_tilly@...>
Dave Thomas <Dave@PragmaticProgrammer.com> wrote:
[#10271] Telnet program in ruby? — Hugh Sasse Staff Elec Eng <hgs@...>
Given the existence of Tk widget demos in Ruby, and the net/telnet module,
[#10277] Re: configure shebang paths for apache cgi? — "Ben Tilly" <ben_tilly@...>
Jim Freeze <jim@freeze.org> wrote:
[#10290] Re: configure shebang paths for apache cgi? — "Morris, Chris" <ChrisM@...>
> For that to work, you need 'ruby' in your $PATH. Try "which ruby".
[#10307] Re: Local directory search "server" script — Mike Wilson <wmwilson1@...>
[#10317] TCPServer - bug in documentation ? — Michael Neumann <neumann@...>
Hi,
[#10328] Multi-dimensional Array — Jason <jasowong@...>
Hi All,
[#10336] ObjectSpace.each_object & terminated objects — Dave Thomas <Dave@...>
[#10385] Structured text matching? — schuerig@... (Michael Schuerig)
[#10386] Ruby/Tk, what am I doing wrong... — "Noel Rappin" <noel.rappin@...>
Now I'm diving into Ruby/Tk and I have some newbie type questions...
[#10399] Ruby users in Sydney? — harryo@... (Harry Ohlsen)
I was just wondering how many of the people who read this newgroup are
Harry Ohlsen wrote:
[#10419] Installing on Mandrake 7.1 — peterhi@...
I have the 1.6.2 tarball and I've unpacked it to /root/x. I've then run
[#10420] Preemptive scheduling? — wys@... (Clemens Wyss)
In the following example:
[#10424] generic method — ts <decoux@...>
[#10434] Serialization/persistence/marshalling to/from XML? — Kent Dahl <kentda@...>
Is there a library or framework for serializing a hierarchy of Ruby
[#10442] Re: book review? — "Mike Wilson" <wmwilson01@...>
[#10452] Re: Recall Regexp options? — "Ben Tilly" <ben_tilly@...>
matz@zetabits.com (Yukihiro Matsumoto) wrote:
[#10477] threads and resolving names — "Joseph McDonald" <joe@...>
Hi,
Hi,
[#10518] Embedded Ruby (Part III) — Olivier CARRERE <olivier@...>
Hi all,
[#10521] RE: Need a Jpn->Eng Translator? — Aleksi Niemel<aleksi.niemela@...>
Neil Johnson wrote:
[#10522] Prioritize the need for documentation — Aleksi Niemel<aleksi.niemela@...>
As I promised in mail [ruby-talk:10521], I'm querying the opinion of the
[#10534] Re: Embedded Ruby (Part III) — "Ben Tilly" <ben_tilly@...>
Olivier CARRERE <olivier@vibes.net> wrote:
[#10549] Giving a Proc utility methods? — "Ben Tilly" <ben_tilly@...>
Here is my situation. I have a class, call it Foo.
[#10566] Rubygarden.com? — Hugh Sasse Staff Elec Eng <hgs@...>
What is the purpose of Rubygarden.com? I know that
[#10577] Word wrap algorithm — "Morris, Chris" <ChrisM@...>
I'm in need of a word wrap method -- anyone know of an existing one
[#10592] Re: Are """ here documents here to stay? :-) — ts <decoux@...>
>>>>> "R" == Robert Feldt <feldt@ce.chalmers.se> writes:
On Fri, 9 Feb 2001, ts wrote:
[#10646] Need other Links to English InstallShield version of Ruby? — "Conrad Schneiker" <schneik@...>
I see "The English InstallShield version of Ruby" is on the "What's New"
[#10682] RE: heap data structure — Michael Davis <mdavis@...>
Can I make the heap a static or fixed size? For example, I want the heap to be 2K regardless of how many items it contains.
[#10684] Passing on a block to a called method — schuerig@... (Michael Schuerig)
[#10692] stopping a thread instance — "Guy N. Hurst" <gnhurst@...>
Hi,
[#10708] Suggestion for threading model — Stephen White <spwhite@...>
I've been playing around with multi-threading. I notice that there are
----- Original Message -----
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[#10715] Threading model change, proposal — "Gaston Fong" <gastonfong@...>
I have been thinking for a while on the pros and cons of relying on
[#10718] Eric S. Raymond mentions Ruby but ... — Robert Feldt <feldt@...>
[#10777] Re: RFC: RubyVM (long) — Robert Feldt <feldt@...>
On Tue, 13 Feb 2001, Mathieu Bouchard wrote:
[#10778] perform. of Dir["**/*"] — "Richard Hensh" <hensh@...>
Now that someone has straightened me out on the use of **, I have a
[#10802] iowa, segfaults — Jonas Bulow <jonas.bulow@...>
Hi,
[#10839] Re: RCR's — "Mike Wilson" <wmwilson01@...>
[#10853] Re: RubyChangeRequest #U002: new proper name for Hash#indexes, Array#indexes — "Mike Wilson" <wmwilson01@...>
matz@zetabits.com (Yukihiro Matsumoto) writes:
On Thu, 15 Feb 2001, Dave Thomas wrote:
On Thu, 15 Feb 2001, David Alan Black wrote:
On Fri, 16 Feb 2001, Mathieu Bouchard wrote:
[#10906] Avoid bad advocacy, please — "Ben Tilly" <ben_tilly@...>
Last night I went to a talk by Damian Conway. (Wonderful
[#10909] rwiki *hangs* in send() — wys@... (Clemens Wyss)
I am trying to install rwiki (1.1) on my linux box (running Ruby 1.7.0).
[#10912] Making Hash from two lists — Kenichi Komiya <kom@...1.accsnet.ne.jp>
[#10924] Mashal.dump 10000 records, Marshal.load only reads 9939 records — Michael Davis <mdavis@...>
I have provided a small ruby script to test Marshal dump and how efficient
On Fri, 16 Feb 2001, Michael Davis wrote:
[#10943] ANN: Windows Installer for 1.6.2 — andy@... (Andrew Hunt)
I am pleased to announce that the 1.6.2 version
[#10966] RCR Summary 02/16/01 — "Mike Wilson" <wmwilson01@...>
I thought that maybe every Friday, I could list the open change requests to
[#11007] Generators (was: RCR Summary 02/16/01 -suspend) — jweirich@...
[#11017] inconsistency — Mathieu Bouchard <matju@...>
At 03:27 2/18/2001 +0900, you wrote:
[#11037] to_s and << — "Brent Rowland" <tarod@...>
list = [1, 2.3, 'four', false]
On Sun, 18 Feb 2001, Brent Rowland wrote:
On Sun, 18 Feb 2001, Stephen White wrote:
On Sun, 18 Feb 2001, David Alan Black wrote:
[#11065] MetaRuby 0.5 — Mathieu Bouchard <matju@...>
[#11068] Re: to_s and << — "Ben Tilly" <ben_tilly@...>
craig duncan <duncan@nycap.rr.com> wrote:
[#11094] Re: Summary: RCR #U002 - proper new name fo r indexes — Aleksi Niemel<aleksi.niemela@...>
> On Mon, 19 Feb 2001, Yukihiro Matsumoto wrote:
[#11113] Auto-magically determine your class/method in Ruby — Bryan Zarnett <bryan_zarnett@...>
Is their a way to auto-magically determine the class
Bryan Zarnett <bryan_zarnett@yahoo.ca> writes:
On Tue, 20 Feb 2001, Dave Thomas wrote:
I agree, having the calling class as part of caller
[#11116] RE: TCPSocket.open() lasts 2 minutes (was: rwik i *hangs* in send()) — Aleksi Niemel<aleksi.niemela@...>
Clemens wrote:
[#11131] Re: Summary: RCR #U002 - proper new name fo r indexes — "Conrad Schneiker" <schneik@...>
Robert Feldt wrote:
On Tue, 20 Feb 2001, Conrad Schneiker wrote:
On Tue, 20 Feb 2001, David Alan Black wrote:
On Tue, 20 Feb 2001, Mathieu Bouchard wrote:
[#11132] Problem compiling in MySQL support — "Carl Youngblood" <carlyoungblood@...>
I'm trying to install MySQL support for Ruby on my redhat 7.0 linux box.
[#11139] Re: One source tree for Ruby & modules — "Conrad Schneiker" <schneik@...>
Stephen White wrote:
[#11185] ANN: RubyCHannel -> Rwiki w. Online Ruby Interpreter — wys@... (Clemens Wyss)
Hi,
Hi,
"NAKAMURA, Hiroshi" <nahi@keynauts.com> wrote in
Hi Clemens,
"NAKAMURA, Hiroshi" <nahi@keynauts.com> wrote in
[#11188] better "gets"? — Nikita Proskourine <nop1@...>
Hi,
[#11191] Telnet/SSH service — nickb@... (Nick Bensema)
I'm among a group of people who are trying to get a simple BBS server up,
[#11225] Re: ANN: RubyCHannel -> Rwiki w. Online Ruby Interpreter — "Conrad Schneiker" <schneik@...>
Clemens Wyss wrote:
[#11237] Re: C scripting using Ruby (instead of Perl)? — "Ben Tilly" <ben_tilly@...>
ts <decoux@moulon.inra.fr> wrote:
[#11251] Programming Ruby is now online — Dave Thomas <Dave@...>
On Thu, 22 Feb 2001 07:24:51 +0900, Dave Thomas wrote:
Guillaume Cottenceau <gc@mandrakesoft.com> writes:
[#11270] Re: Programming Ruby is now online — "Ben Tilly" <ben_tilly@...>
Dave Thomas <Dave@PragmaticProgrammer.com> wrote:
[#11272] musings about Hash#each_with_index — David Alan Black <dblack@...>
Hello --
[#11316] Bottles of Beer finally in Ruby — Jim Menard <jimm@...>
The following URL contains a collection of programs to print the words to
[#11357] binding to callers namespace. — "Joseph McDonald" <joe@...>
[#11378] Emacs-mode? — "Noel Rappin" <noel.rappin@...>
I'd really appreciate it if somebody could give me a pointer on how to get
[#11381] Re: Time without seconds (updated/fixed) — Kevin Smith <sent@...>
ts wrote:
On Sat, 24 Feb 2001, Kevin Smith wrote:
[#11386] Re: Time without seconds (updated/fixed) — ts <decoux@...>
>>>>> "D" == David Alan Black <dblack@candle.superlink.net> writes:
[#11391] trial balloon: Ruby desktop? — Jon Aseltine <aseltine@...>
Hi,
[#11403] Re: trial balloon: Ruby desktop? — Steve Tuckner <SAT@...>
This sounds like a very interesting idea (to me) if the goal was to use it
On Sat, 24 Feb 2001, Steve Tuckner wrote:
[#11422] Dir#each -- include '.'? — Neil Conway <nconway@...>
Hi all,
[#11432] Esperanto (was: trial balloon: Ruby desktop?) — Kevin Smith <sent@...>
Brent Rowland wrote:
On Friday 23 February 2001 23:44, Kevin Smith wrote:
[#11461] French Translation — Mathieu Bouchard <matju@...>
[#11469] XML-RPC and KDE — schuerig@... (Michael Schuerig)
Michael Neumann <neumann@s-direktnet.de> wrote:
Hi all:
[#11483] Re: Esperanto (was: trial balloon: Ruby desktop?) — "Ben Tilly" <ben_tilly@...>
nickb@fnord.io.com (Nick Bensema) wrote:
[#11487] TCPSocket Problem? — "Chris New" <chris@...>
I am using 1.6.2 on both Redhat 6.1 and Redhat 7.0.
[#11511] ANN: ri - the Ruby Interactive reference — Dave Thomas <Dave@...>
[#11534] Re: Negative Reviews for Ruby and ProgrammingRuby — Kevin Smith <sent@...>
jeremy@chaos.org.uk wrote:
[#11594] Re: A design/implementation question — "Ben Tilly" <ben_tilly@...>
Dave Thomas <Dave@PragmaticProgrammer.com> wrote:
[#11595] Net::FTP — "Patrick Down" <pdown@...>
Hi, I am new to Ruby. I was trying out the Net::FTP object using
[#11633] RCR: shortcut for instance variable initialization — Dave Thomas <Dave@...>
In article <m2d7c5vxnl.fsf@zip.local.thomases.com>, Dave Thomas wrote:
r2d2@mao.acc.umu.se (Niklas Frykholm) writes:
[#11643] capturing regex matches. — "Joseph McDonald" <joe@...>
[#11647] assert() library in Ruby? — Eric Sven Ristad <ristad@...>
How can I achieve the effect of the assert() macro from C in Ruby?
Eric Sven Ristad <ristad@mnemonic.com> writes:
[#11648] Putting methods in arrays — Alex McHale <lists@...>
Hi there,
[#11652] RE: RCR: shortcut for instance variable initialization — Michael Davis <mdavis@...>
I like it!
[#11700] Starting Once Again — Ron Jeffries <ronjeffries@...>
OK, I'm starting again with Ruby. I'm just assuming that I've
> 2. So far I think running under TextPad will be better than running
On Wed, 28 Feb 2001, Aaron Hinni wrote:
"Eugene Ventimiglia" <eventi@nyic.com> writes:
One more thing:
[#11727] Re: Starting Once Again — "Conrad Schneiker" <schneik@...>
Aaron Hinni wrote:
[#11729] Interfacing with Java (sort-of) — "Conrad Schneiker" <schneik@...>
Hi,
[#11788] building n-grams — Arno Erpenbeck <aerpenbe@...>
Greetings everybody,
[#11802] list classmethods of a class — wys@... (Clemens Wyss)
I tried, but didn't find out how to get the list of classmethods of a
[ruby-talk:10708] Suggestion for threading model
I've been playing around with multi-threading. I notice that there are
different models for each of the options. Some split and rejoin. Some
run in parallel with spin locks. Some are co-operative.
None of them are really satisfactory. I want threading to be part of
the language, to be assimilated by the Borg of Syntax. Regexp's were
assimilated, so threading should be conquerable.
After much consideration, here's a proposed model for threading. First
comes the concept, then comes the optimisations.
Normally, threading is provided as a library and the default number of
threads is one. What if the object oriented concept were extended to
give every object its own thread?
Here's how it would work:
Object A Object B
======== ========
1 b = B.new <created>
2 x = b.status status begin
3 paused running
4 paused status end
5 b.demo demo begin
6 b.check running
7 paused running
8 paused demo end
9 y = b.status check begin
10 paused check end
11 p x, y
This looks more complicated than it is... The basic idea is that each object
has its own thread, so this guarantees that functions in an object will not
run out of order.
This eliminates problems with re-entrancy and race conditions within an
object. It can access instance variables safely, and class/globals with
no more trouble than before.
The rules are:
An object making a method call will be suspended if it uses the result
from the method call (3, 4, 10), or the called object is busy (7, 8).
An object making a method call will return immediately if it doesn't use
the result and the called object is idle (6). Another approach would be to
allow method calls to queue up but this could get a bit intense. :)
The problem with this are the parameters.
Object A Object B
======== ========
1 b = B.new <created>
2 a = [0, 1, 2, 3, 4]
3 b.change a x[2] = nil
p a -> [0, 1, nil, 3, 4]
How could this be handled? Suspend if passing parameters? Freeze objects
passed between objects? I think the best solution would be to allow the
calling process to continue, but suspend on access to the objects passed
in the parameters. This mechanism would also handle return values, so the
calling object can continue until the return value is used. Eg:
x = a.func
y = b.func
z = c.func # At this point, three threads are running
i = x + 1 # Pauses until a.func returns, to provide value for x
j = i + y + z # Pauses until y, and z are available
Regardless of the final design, I like the idea of every object being like a
process, able to receive and respond to requests in their own time. Being
able to fire off messages to other objects in a universe where everything is
inherently multi-threaded sounds appealing to me.
Like OO in Ruby, the multi-threaded nature of this would not be readily
apparent as the syntax is unchanged. Calls still return results, multiple
calls still occur in sequence, and parameters are still passed back and
forth as per normal.
The language is just smart enough to run objects in parallel when things are
nicely decoupled. In effect, it's a freebie reward for writing good OO.
The implementation could be along the lines of assigning a Thread value
to every Object which is usually nil, then re-using threads. There would
be a slight interpreter slowdown from having to check method calls for
thread association, but I can't see it taking up much time.
What do you think? Like the idea? Would this kind of multi-threading be
able to handle your multi-tasking problems? Can you see any problems with
implementing this concept?
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