[ruby-talk:11262] Re: Telnet/SSH service

I cant help jumping in.

BBS messaging doesnt necessarily have to have all the telnet bells and
whistles, especially the PTY stuff.  Getting other stuff to work from NT to a
pty server is very difficult.

Jabber solves the problem by converting all the message phrasing into XML,
probably the best use for that I have seen yet.

But I perfer communicating in datasturctures... create an object which has all
that is needs in it, serialize it, send it over the net to your server which
then evaluates it and displays it and/or forwards it.  If you create your own
data stucture template, chances are that it will be pretty easy to use rather
than some do-everything product.

I have been building these tools for metrical and operational communication for
years.  I designed my tools for regular personal communication but jabber seems
to have this sewn up.  XML lends naturally lends it self to formated printing,
but probably kills databases and performance must be mud.

--- Mitch Vincent <[e-mail]> wrote:
> Inetd could be a solution, sure, it really depends on the purpose of coding
> this. If you want to learn to use sockets it would be a good idea to write
> it all yourself. It really isn't hard at all, especially in Ruby!
> 
> Good luck!!
> 
> -Mitch
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Gil Cohen" <[e-mail]>
> To: "ruby-talk ML" <[e-mail]>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2001 12:32 PM
> Subject: [ruby-talk:11248] RE: Telnet/SSH service
> 
> 
> > Using a lovely thing called inetd, you don't have to worry about sockets.
> It
> > does everything for you. Your program talks with whoever telnet'd in via
> > stdin/stdout. pretty cool, eh? don't know what to tell you about the ssh
> > thing though.
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [e-mail] [mailto:[e-mail]]On Behalf Of
> > Nick Bensema
> > Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2001 6:40 PM
> > To: ruby-talk ML; [e-mail]
> > Subject: [ruby-talk:11191] Telnet/SSH service
> >
> >
> > I'm among a group of people who are trying to get a simple BBS server up,
> > with Telnet.
> >
> > Unfortunately, using raw sockets doesn't seem to work all that well.
> > We can tinker with it to the point where it works with Windows Telnet,
> > but most other clients get garbage characters and other such things.
> >
> > I'd rather work on features like a user list or message board than
> > spend a few hours reinventing the wheel.  I'd like to know a couple of
> > things:
> >
> > first, is there a Telnet server module available?  I'm aware of the
> > client one, but it doesn't look like it goes both ways.
> >
> > Second, if I were to get OpenSSL support working, would that be enough
> > to talk to ssh clients?
> >
> > --
> > Nick Bensema <[e-mail]>      ICQ#2135445
> > ==== ======= ==============
> > BOY, THIS IS REALLY EXPENSIVE!
> >
> >
> >
> 


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John van Vlaanderen

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