[#10209] Market for XML Web stuff — Matt Sergeant <matt@...>

I'm trying to get a handle on what the size of the market for AxKit would be

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[#10238] RFC: RubyVM (long) — Robert Feldt <feldt@...>

Hi,

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[#10364] Re: RFC: RubyVM (long) — Mathieu Bouchard <matju@...> 2001/02/05

[#10708] Suggestion for threading model — Stephen White <spwhite@...>

I've been playing around with multi-threading. I notice that there are

11 messages 2001/02/11

[#10853] Re: RubyChangeRequest #U002: new proper name for Hash#indexes, Array#indexes — "Mike Wilson" <wmwilson01@...>

10 messages 2001/02/14

[#11037] to_s and << — "Brent Rowland" <tarod@...>

list = [1, 2.3, 'four', false]

15 messages 2001/02/18

[#11094] Re: Summary: RCR #U002 - proper new name fo r indexes — Aleksi Niemel<aleksi.niemela@...>

> On Mon, 19 Feb 2001, Yukihiro Matsumoto wrote:

12 messages 2001/02/19

[#11131] Re: Summary: RCR #U002 - proper new name fo r indexes — "Conrad Schneiker" <schneik@...>

Robert Feldt wrote:

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[#11251] Programming Ruby is now online — Dave Thomas <Dave@...>

36 messages 2001/02/21

[#11469] XML-RPC and KDE — schuerig@... (Michael Schuerig)

23 messages 2001/02/24
[#11490] Re: XML-RPC and KDE — schuerig@... (Michael Schuerig) 2001/02/24

Michael Neumann <neumann@s-direktnet.de> wrote:

[#11491] Negative Reviews for Ruby and Programming Ruby — Jim Freeze <jim@...> 2001/02/24

Hi all:

[#11633] RCR: shortcut for instance variable initialization — Dave Thomas <Dave@...>

13 messages 2001/02/26

[#11652] RE: RCR: shortcut for instance variable initialization — Michael Davis <mdavis@...>

I like it!

14 messages 2001/02/27

[#11700] Starting Once Again — Ron Jeffries <ronjeffries@...>

OK, I'm starting again with Ruby. I'm just assuming that I've

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[#11712] RE: Starting Once Again — "Aaron Hinni" <aaron@...> 2001/02/27

> 2. So far I think running under TextPad will be better than running

[#11726] Re: Starting Once Again — Aleksi Niemel<zak@...> 2001/02/28

On Wed, 28 Feb 2001, Aaron Hinni wrote:

[ruby-talk:11133] Re: Summary: RCR #U002 - proper new name fo r indexes

From: David Alan Black <dblack@...>
Date: 2001-02-19 22:25:08 UTC
List: ruby-talk #11133
On Tue, 20 Feb 2001, Conrad Schneiker wrote:

> Robert Feldt wrote:
> 
> # On Tue, 20 Feb 2001, Jean Michel wrote:
> # 
> # > I like to consider an array conceptually as a special case of hash 
> where
> # > the keys are restricted to be positive integers. So I am very opposed 
> to
> # > choices which  make them differ  more than  necessary (in the  spirit 
> of
> # >
> # I fully agree with this and would like to add that its easier to
> # learn one method name than two...
> 
> Likewise.

In spite of being an advocate of having two different names, I do
agree that conceptually an array is essentially a hash on positive
integers.  (See for example [ruby-talk:6611] and [ruby-talk:6663].)
In fact, looking at arrays and hashes that way makes me wonder about
what *exactly* is common to them, and what implications that has.  I
keep thinking of a phantom module called "Hashable", and wishing it
existed....  

[...]
> Overall, *#values* seems like the more natural generic term, which seems 
> more likely to accommodate any subsequent future generalizations that 
> people might discover.

I continue to gravitate toward the different terms (value for hash,
element for array), though if it's to be one term I'd agree that it
should be "value".  For some reason I'm not convinced that the
underlying array-hash structural similarity means that the terms
should be the same, or developed in parallel.  (For instance, I've
never missed having Array#has_value?)  I don't think I can really
argue it beyond the level of reflecting the terms I'm used to, though.


David

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