[#10209] Market for XML Web stuff — Matt Sergeant <matt@...>

I'm trying to get a handle on what the size of the market for AxKit would be

15 messages 2001/02/01

[#10238] RFC: RubyVM (long) — Robert Feldt <feldt@...>

Hi,

20 messages 2001/02/01
[#10364] Re: RFC: RubyVM (long) — Mathieu Bouchard <matju@...> 2001/02/05

[#10708] Suggestion for threading model — Stephen White <spwhite@...>

I've been playing around with multi-threading. I notice that there are

11 messages 2001/02/11

[#10853] Re: RubyChangeRequest #U002: new proper name for Hash#indexes, Array#indexes — "Mike Wilson" <wmwilson01@...>

10 messages 2001/02/14

[#11037] to_s and << — "Brent Rowland" <tarod@...>

list = [1, 2.3, 'four', false]

15 messages 2001/02/18

[#11094] Re: Summary: RCR #U002 - proper new name fo r indexes — Aleksi Niemel<aleksi.niemela@...>

> On Mon, 19 Feb 2001, Yukihiro Matsumoto wrote:

12 messages 2001/02/19

[#11131] Re: Summary: RCR #U002 - proper new name fo r indexes — "Conrad Schneiker" <schneik@...>

Robert Feldt wrote:

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[#11251] Programming Ruby is now online — Dave Thomas <Dave@...>

36 messages 2001/02/21

[#11469] XML-RPC and KDE — schuerig@... (Michael Schuerig)

23 messages 2001/02/24
[#11490] Re: XML-RPC and KDE — schuerig@... (Michael Schuerig) 2001/02/24

Michael Neumann <neumann@s-direktnet.de> wrote:

[#11491] Negative Reviews for Ruby and Programming Ruby — Jim Freeze <jim@...> 2001/02/24

Hi all:

[#11633] RCR: shortcut for instance variable initialization — Dave Thomas <Dave@...>

13 messages 2001/02/26

[#11652] RE: RCR: shortcut for instance variable initialization — Michael Davis <mdavis@...>

I like it!

14 messages 2001/02/27

[#11700] Starting Once Again — Ron Jeffries <ronjeffries@...>

OK, I'm starting again with Ruby. I'm just assuming that I've

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[#11712] RE: Starting Once Again — "Aaron Hinni" <aaron@...> 2001/02/27

> 2. So far I think running under TextPad will be better than running

[#11726] Re: Starting Once Again — Aleksi Niemel<zak@...> 2001/02/28

On Wed, 28 Feb 2001, Aaron Hinni wrote:

[ruby-talk:10633] Re: How to convince management

From: Kevin Smith <sent@...>
Date: 2001-02-09 17:54:54 UTC
List: ruby-talk #10633
ptkwt@shell1.aracnet.com wrote:
>Managment is understandably suspicious of using Ruby - they've never heard 
>of it before and they don't know if it is stable.  They say there is no 
>in-house Ruby expertise (actually only myself and one other programmer 
>would be working on the system and I don't think it would be difficult to 
>transition from Perl to Ruby for either of us).

Try to find out what the *real* objections are, 
which may or may not be the stated objections. 
They might be helped by seeing the pickaxe book 
in person, or by reading the interview(s?) with 
Larry Wall that mention Ruby, or by seeing that 
Ruby will be represented at an upcoming industry 
conference, or by the articles in recent 
magazines, etc.

Stability should be addressable. I've used Ruby 
to write two GUI applications (email: 1kloc, 
strategy board game: 3kloc). The highly-respected 
Pragmatic Programmers are using it in their 
professional practice. 

In-house expertise shouldn't be a showstopper. 
Surely at some point they'll want to take on 
something that they've never used before. Ruby is 
similar enough to Perl that the transition should 
be pretty easy. Does management have a general 
opposition to trying new things? 

There may be some psychology going on behind the 
scenes. Maybe someone is addicted to Perl. Or 
maybe a manager knows Perl but is afraid to learn 
anything new and doesn't want to be left out. 

Ask gentle questions to discover the *real* 
objections.

Kevin

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