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[#11094] Re: Summary: RCR #U002 - proper new name fo r indexes — Aleksi Niemel<aleksi.niemela@...>

> On Mon, 19 Feb 2001, Yukihiro Matsumoto wrote:

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[#11131] Re: Summary: RCR #U002 - proper new name fo r indexes — "Conrad Schneiker" <schneik@...>

Robert Feldt wrote:

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[#11700] Starting Once Again — Ron Jeffries <ronjeffries@...>

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> 2. So far I think running under TextPad will be better than running

[#11726] Re: Starting Once Again — Aleksi Niemel<zak@...> 2001/02/28

On Wed, 28 Feb 2001, Aaron Hinni wrote:

[ruby-talk:11131] Re: Summary: RCR #U002 - proper new name fo r indexes

From: "Conrad Schneiker" <schneik@...>
Date: 2001-02-19 20:42:08 UTC
List: ruby-talk #11131
Robert Feldt wrote:

# On Tue, 20 Feb 2001, Jean Michel wrote:
# 
# > I like to consider an array conceptually as a special case of hash 
where
# > the keys are restricted to be positive integers. So I am very opposed 
to
# > choices which  make them differ  more than  necessary (in the  spirit 
of
# >
# I fully agree with this and would like to add that its easier to
# learn one method name than two...

Likewise.

# > >> >   (a) Hash#values, Array#values
# > >> >   (b) Hash#values_for, Array#values_for
# > >> >   (g) Hash#selections, Array#selections
# > >> >   (h) Hash#collect_indexes, Array#collect_indexes
# > >> >   (f) Hash#subset, Array#subset
# > 
# but I'd vote for Hash#elements_at/Array#elements_at or
# Hash#elements/Array#elements.

I'd vote for using *#values* (1st * --> "Hash", "Array"; 2nd * --> "", 
"_at", "_for") rather than *#elements*, which I think would be more 
natural and more consistent with wider usage elsewhere (read: prospective 
future Ruby users). 

For example, the "Programming Perl" authors describe the above 
generalization as "[A] has is just a funny kind of array in which you look 
values up using key strings instead of numbers. They also speak of 
"key/value" pairs. 

As one might expect, practice is mixed. Here are some additional 
semi-random samples: a ksh manual uses "elements", a Python manual uses 
"items" and "values", and a Java manual uses "entries", "objects", "values 
of ... type", etc. 

Overall, *#values* seems like the more natural generic term, which seems 
more likely to accommodate any subsequent future generalizations that 
people might discover.

Conrad Schneiker
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