[#33161] Call/CC and Ruby iterators. — olczyk@... (Thaddeus L Olczyk)

Reading about call/cc in Scheme I get the impression that it is very

11 messages 2002/02/05

[#33242] favicon.ico — Dave Thomas <Dave@...>

19 messages 2002/02/06
[#33256] Re: favicon.ico — Leon Torres <leon@...> 2002/02/06

[#33435] Reg: tiny contest: who's faster? (add_a_gram) — grady@... (Steven Grady)

> My current solution works correctly with various inputs.

17 messages 2002/02/08

[#33500] Ruby Embedded Documentation — William Djaja Tjokroaminata <billtj@...>

Hi,

24 messages 2002/02/10
[#33502] Re: Ruby Embedded Documentation — "Lyle Johnson" <ljohnson@...> 2002/02/10

> Now, I am using Ruby on Linux, and I have downloaded Ruby version

[#33615] Name resolution in Ruby — stern@... (Alan Stern)

I've been struggling to understand how name resolution is supposed to

16 messages 2002/02/11

[#33617] choice of HTML templating system — Paul Brannan <paul@...>

I am not a web developer, nor do I pretend to be one.

23 messages 2002/02/11

[#33619] make first letter lowercase — sebi@... (sebi)

hello,

20 messages 2002/02/11
[#33620] Re: [newbie] make first letter lowercase — Tobias Reif <tobiasreif@...> 2002/02/11

sebi wrote:

[#33624] Re: [newbie] make first letter lowercase — "Jeff 'japhy' Pinyan" <jeffp@...> 2002/02/11

On Feb 11, Tobias Reif said:

[#33632] Re: [newbie] make first letter lowercase — Mathieu Bouchard <matju@...> 2002/02/12

[#33731] simple XML parsing (greedy / non-greedy — Ron Jeffries <ronjeffries@...>

Suppose I had this text

14 messages 2002/02/13

[#33743] qualms about respond_to? idiom — David Alan Black <dblack@...>

Hi --

28 messages 2002/02/13
[#33751] Re: qualms about respond_to? idiom — Dave Thomas <Dave@...> 2002/02/13

David Alan Black <dblack@candle.superlink.net> writes:

[#33754] Re: qualms about respond_to? idiom — David Alan Black <dblack@...> 2002/02/13

Hi --

[#33848] "Powered by Ruby" banner — Yuri Leikind <YuriLeikind@...>

Hello Ruby folks,

78 messages 2002/02/14
[#33909] Re: "Powered by Ruby" banner — Leon Torres <leon@...> 2002/02/14

On Thu, 14 Feb 2002, Yuri Leikind wrote:

[#33916] RE: "Powered by Ruby" banner — "Jack Dempsey" <dempsejn@...> 2002/02/15

A modest submission:

[#33929] Re: "Powered by Ruby" banner — yet another bill smith <bigbill.smith@...> 2002/02/15

Kent Dahl wrote:

[#33932] OT Netscape 4.x? was Re: "Powered by Ruby" banner — Chris Gehlker <gehlker@...> 2002/02/15

On 2/15/02 5:54 AM, "yet another bill smith" <bigbill.smith@verizon.net>

[#33933] RE: OT Netscape 4.x? was Re: "Powered by Ruby" banner — "Jack Dempsey" <dempsejn@...> 2002/02/15

i just don't understand why it didn't show up! dhtml/javascript, ok, but a

[#33937] Re: OT Netscape 4.x? was Re: "Powered by Ruby" banner — Chris Gehlker <gehlker@...> 2002/02/15

On 2/15/02 7:16 AM, "Jack Dempsey" <dempsejn@georgetown.edu> wrote:

[#33989] Re: OT OmniWeb [was: Netscape 4.x?] — Sean Russell <ser@...> 2002/02/16

Chris Gehlker wrote:

[#33991] Re: OT OmniWeb [was: Netscape 4.x?] — Rob Partington <rjp@...> 2002/02/16

In message <3c6e5e01_1@spamkiller.newsgroups.com>,

[#33993] Re: OT OmniWeb [was: Netscape 4.x?] — Thomas Hurst <tom.hurst@...> 2002/02/16

* Rob Partington (rjp@browser.org) wrote:

[#33925] Re: "Powered by Ruby" banner — Martin Maciaszek <mmaciaszek@...> 2002/02/15

In article <3C6CFCCA.5AD5CA67@scnsoft.com>, Yuri Leikind wrote:

[#33956] Re: "Powered by Ruby" banner — Leon Torres <leon@...> 2002/02/15

On Fri, 15 Feb 2002, Martin Maciaszek wrote:

[#33851] Ruby and .NET — Patrik Sundberg <ps@...>

I have been reading a bit about .NET for the last couple of days and must say

53 messages 2002/02/14

[#34024] Compiled companion language for Ruby? — Erik Terpstra <erik@...>

Hmmm, seems that my previous post was in a different thread, I'll try

12 messages 2002/02/16

[#34036] The GUI Returns — "Horacio Lopez" <vruz@...>

Hello all,

33 messages 2002/02/17

[#34162] Epic4/Ruby — Thomas Hurst <tom.hurst@...>

Rejoice, for you no longer have to put up with that evil excuse for a

34 messages 2002/02/18

[#34185] Operator overloading and multiple arguments — ptkwt@...1.aracnet.com (Phil Tomson)

I'm trying to overload the '<=' operator in a class in order to use it for

10 messages 2002/02/18

[#34217] Ruby for web development — beripome@... (Billy)

Hi all,

21 messages 2002/02/19

[#34350] FAQ for comp.lang.ruby — "Hal E. Fulton" <hal9000@...>

RUBY NEWSGROUP FAQ -- Welcome to comp.lang.ruby! (Revised 2001-2-18)

15 messages 2002/02/20

[#34375] Setting the Ruby continued — <jostein.berntsen@...>

Hi,

24 messages 2002/02/20
[#34384] Re: Setting the Ruby continued — Paulo Schreiner <paulo@...> 2002/02/20

Also VERY important:

[#34467] recursive require — Ron Jeffries <ronjeffries@...>

I'm having a really odd thing happen with two files that mutually

18 messages 2002/02/21

[#34503] special characters — Tobias Reif <tobiasreif@...>

Hi all,

13 messages 2002/02/22

[#34517] Windows Installer Ruby 166-0 available — Andrew Hunt <andy@...>

16 messages 2002/02/22

[#34597] rdoc/xml questions — Dave Thomas <Dave@...>

24 messages 2002/02/23

[#34631] Object/Memory Management — "Sean O'Dell" <sean@...>

I'm new to Ruby and the community here (I've been learning Ruby for a grand

44 messages 2002/02/23

[#34682] duplicate method name — Ron Jeffries <ronjeffries@...>

I just found a case in a test file where i had two tests of the same

16 messages 2002/02/24
[#34687] Re: duplicate method name — s@... (Stefan Schmiedl) 2002/02/24

Hi Ron.

[#34791] Style Question — Ron Jeffries <ronjeffries@...>

So I'm building this set theory library. The "only" object is supposed

13 messages 2002/02/25

[#34912] RCR?: parallel to until: as_soon_as — Tobias Reif <tobiasreif@...>

Hi,

18 messages 2002/02/26

[#34972] OT A Question on work styles — Chris Gehlker <gehlker@...>

As a Mac baby I just had to step through ruby in GDB *from the command line*

20 messages 2002/02/28

[#35015] Time Comparison — "Sean O'Dell" <sean@...>

I am using the time object to compare times between two files and I'm

21 messages 2002/02/28

RE: [ANN] TestUnit 0.1.3

From: <nathaniel@...>
Date: 2002-02-27 00:27:49 UTC
List: ruby-talk #34937
David Corbin [mailto:dcorbin@imperitek.com] wrote:

> Can you elaborate on the features that TestUnit offers that rubyunit 
> doesn't?

First of all let me say, this reply is not intended to be a critique of
RubyUnit's design; Masaki made the decisions he believed were right at
the time based on his knowledge, and I don't want to question that.
However, I've been asked this question a lot, and I think those who are
happily using RubyUnit deserve some kind of an explanation before they
take the time to learn the differences in Test::Unit and switch to it
for new development.

Ron Jeffries and I corresponded on exactly this topic a while back, and
here's the answer I put together for him, along with some additional
tidbits...

For every day basic testing, Test::Unit doesn't offer much more than
RubyUnit... as a matter of fact, I can't come up with one concrete
feature off the top of my head (other than the fact that I like some of
its aesthetics more, but then, I created it, so that's expected).
However, when you want to do something special, Test::Unit provides some
definite benefits. Maybe I can describe them best like this:

Simplicity - RubyUnit is based on JUnit, but Ruby is more like Smalltalk
than Java. Thus I went back to the original sunit docs and built what's
now Test::Unit from that basis. I've tried to keep it as simple and
elegant as I possibly can, and perhaps I've succeeded. I know that when
I want to extend it or change it, I find it very easy, and I don't think
that is only due to the fact that I know it so well.

Communication - I like code that is easy to follow and clear, so I've
written Test::Unit to read well. In particular, the method names try to
be very clear. You can be the judge of whether I've succeeded. I haven't
heavily studied RubyUnit, so perhaps it succeeds here, too.

Feedback - How much more feedback can you have than testing a testing
framework with itself? Test::Unit is written completely test-first. I
know there are holes in the tests, but there are far fewer than if it
had not been tested at all, or tested after the fact. RubyUnit's tests
have been lately added; when I first started on what is now Test::Unit,
I do not think it had any.

Courage - Hopefully all of those things give people courage to fiddle
with Test::Unit to fulfill their own needs, and hopefully that gives
people more courage to think they can write tests for all their code.

So I guess the things I like in Test::Unit have more to do with
philosophy, aesthetics and design than with hard cold features. However,
I won't claim to have used RubyUnit enough to definitely identify
features that Test::Unit has that it lacks. Perhaps you'll find some
yourself. On the gripping hand, if you find features that RubyUnit has
that Test::Unit lacks, let me know. I'm always willing to improve.

The other thing to note is that Test::Unit will be going in to the
standard Ruby distribution, and new development will be focused around
it (RubyUnit has frozen at 0.5.4). Thus, at this point, there are
definite advantages to doing new development with Test::Unit.

Does that answer the question? I'm certainly willing to discuss and
write about the subject further. Perhaps there are other questions that
this explanation raises; bring them to the table and I'll do my best to
answer them.


Nathaniel

P.S. David, I was going through my Lapidary/Test::Unit email
correspondance looking for the letter to Ron and I came across your
private email that asked this very question back in early January. Then
I realized I had completely neglected to reply to it! <hangs head>
Sorry; hopefully this answers the question, if very, very late.

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