[#33161] Call/CC and Ruby iterators. — olczyk@... (Thaddeus L Olczyk)

Reading about call/cc in Scheme I get the impression that it is very

11 messages 2002/02/05

[#33242] favicon.ico — Dave Thomas <Dave@...>

19 messages 2002/02/06
[#33256] Re: favicon.ico — Leon Torres <leon@...> 2002/02/06

[#33435] Reg: tiny contest: who's faster? (add_a_gram) — grady@... (Steven Grady)

> My current solution works correctly with various inputs.

17 messages 2002/02/08

[#33500] Ruby Embedded Documentation — William Djaja Tjokroaminata <billtj@...>

Hi,

24 messages 2002/02/10
[#33502] Re: Ruby Embedded Documentation — "Lyle Johnson" <ljohnson@...> 2002/02/10

> Now, I am using Ruby on Linux, and I have downloaded Ruby version

[#33615] Name resolution in Ruby — stern@... (Alan Stern)

I've been struggling to understand how name resolution is supposed to

16 messages 2002/02/11

[#33617] choice of HTML templating system — Paul Brannan <paul@...>

I am not a web developer, nor do I pretend to be one.

23 messages 2002/02/11

[#33619] make first letter lowercase — sebi@... (sebi)

hello,

20 messages 2002/02/11
[#33620] Re: [newbie] make first letter lowercase — Tobias Reif <tobiasreif@...> 2002/02/11

sebi wrote:

[#33624] Re: [newbie] make first letter lowercase — "Jeff 'japhy' Pinyan" <jeffp@...> 2002/02/11

On Feb 11, Tobias Reif said:

[#33632] Re: [newbie] make first letter lowercase — Mathieu Bouchard <matju@...> 2002/02/12

[#33731] simple XML parsing (greedy / non-greedy — Ron Jeffries <ronjeffries@...>

Suppose I had this text

14 messages 2002/02/13

[#33743] qualms about respond_to? idiom — David Alan Black <dblack@...>

Hi --

28 messages 2002/02/13
[#33751] Re: qualms about respond_to? idiom — Dave Thomas <Dave@...> 2002/02/13

David Alan Black <dblack@candle.superlink.net> writes:

[#33754] Re: qualms about respond_to? idiom — David Alan Black <dblack@...> 2002/02/13

Hi --

[#33848] "Powered by Ruby" banner — Yuri Leikind <YuriLeikind@...>

Hello Ruby folks,

78 messages 2002/02/14
[#33909] Re: "Powered by Ruby" banner — Leon Torres <leon@...> 2002/02/14

On Thu, 14 Feb 2002, Yuri Leikind wrote:

[#33916] RE: "Powered by Ruby" banner — "Jack Dempsey" <dempsejn@...> 2002/02/15

A modest submission:

[#33929] Re: "Powered by Ruby" banner — yet another bill smith <bigbill.smith@...> 2002/02/15

Kent Dahl wrote:

[#33932] OT Netscape 4.x? was Re: "Powered by Ruby" banner — Chris Gehlker <gehlker@...> 2002/02/15

On 2/15/02 5:54 AM, "yet another bill smith" <bigbill.smith@verizon.net>

[#33933] RE: OT Netscape 4.x? was Re: "Powered by Ruby" banner — "Jack Dempsey" <dempsejn@...> 2002/02/15

i just don't understand why it didn't show up! dhtml/javascript, ok, but a

[#33937] Re: OT Netscape 4.x? was Re: "Powered by Ruby" banner — Chris Gehlker <gehlker@...> 2002/02/15

On 2/15/02 7:16 AM, "Jack Dempsey" <dempsejn@georgetown.edu> wrote:

[#33989] Re: OT OmniWeb [was: Netscape 4.x?] — Sean Russell <ser@...> 2002/02/16

Chris Gehlker wrote:

[#33991] Re: OT OmniWeb [was: Netscape 4.x?] — Rob Partington <rjp@...> 2002/02/16

In message <3c6e5e01_1@spamkiller.newsgroups.com>,

[#33993] Re: OT OmniWeb [was: Netscape 4.x?] — Thomas Hurst <tom.hurst@...> 2002/02/16

* Rob Partington (rjp@browser.org) wrote:

[#33925] Re: "Powered by Ruby" banner — Martin Maciaszek <mmaciaszek@...> 2002/02/15

In article <3C6CFCCA.5AD5CA67@scnsoft.com>, Yuri Leikind wrote:

[#33956] Re: "Powered by Ruby" banner — Leon Torres <leon@...> 2002/02/15

On Fri, 15 Feb 2002, Martin Maciaszek wrote:

[#33851] Ruby and .NET — Patrik Sundberg <ps@...>

I have been reading a bit about .NET for the last couple of days and must say

53 messages 2002/02/14

[#34024] Compiled companion language for Ruby? — Erik Terpstra <erik@...>

Hmmm, seems that my previous post was in a different thread, I'll try

12 messages 2002/02/16

[#34036] The GUI Returns — "Horacio Lopez" <vruz@...>

Hello all,

33 messages 2002/02/17

[#34162] Epic4/Ruby — Thomas Hurst <tom.hurst@...>

Rejoice, for you no longer have to put up with that evil excuse for a

34 messages 2002/02/18

[#34185] Operator overloading and multiple arguments — ptkwt@...1.aracnet.com (Phil Tomson)

I'm trying to overload the '<=' operator in a class in order to use it for

10 messages 2002/02/18

[#34217] Ruby for web development — beripome@... (Billy)

Hi all,

21 messages 2002/02/19

[#34350] FAQ for comp.lang.ruby — "Hal E. Fulton" <hal9000@...>

RUBY NEWSGROUP FAQ -- Welcome to comp.lang.ruby! (Revised 2001-2-18)

15 messages 2002/02/20

[#34375] Setting the Ruby continued — <jostein.berntsen@...>

Hi,

24 messages 2002/02/20
[#34384] Re: Setting the Ruby continued — Paulo Schreiner <paulo@...> 2002/02/20

Also VERY important:

[#34467] recursive require — Ron Jeffries <ronjeffries@...>

I'm having a really odd thing happen with two files that mutually

18 messages 2002/02/21

[#34503] special characters — Tobias Reif <tobiasreif@...>

Hi all,

13 messages 2002/02/22

[#34517] Windows Installer Ruby 166-0 available — Andrew Hunt <andy@...>

16 messages 2002/02/22

[#34597] rdoc/xml questions — Dave Thomas <Dave@...>

24 messages 2002/02/23

[#34631] Object/Memory Management — "Sean O'Dell" <sean@...>

I'm new to Ruby and the community here (I've been learning Ruby for a grand

44 messages 2002/02/23

[#34682] duplicate method name — Ron Jeffries <ronjeffries@...>

I just found a case in a test file where i had two tests of the same

16 messages 2002/02/24
[#34687] Re: duplicate method name — s@... (Stefan Schmiedl) 2002/02/24

Hi Ron.

[#34791] Style Question — Ron Jeffries <ronjeffries@...>

So I'm building this set theory library. The "only" object is supposed

13 messages 2002/02/25

[#34912] RCR?: parallel to until: as_soon_as — Tobias Reif <tobiasreif@...>

Hi,

18 messages 2002/02/26

[#34972] OT A Question on work styles — Chris Gehlker <gehlker@...>

As a Mac baby I just had to step through ruby in GDB *from the command line*

20 messages 2002/02/28

[#35015] Time Comparison — "Sean O'Dell" <sean@...>

I am using the time object to compare times between two files and I'm

21 messages 2002/02/28

choice of HTML templating system

From: Paul Brannan <paul@...>
Date: 2002-02-11 22:28:04 UTC
List: ruby-talk #33617
I am not a web developer, nor do I pretend to be one.

However, recently I have had to develop some simple CGI scripts.  It
occurred to me, though, that having a CGI script that outputs HTML is
probably not a good idea.  Php3 and ERuby seem nice, because I can embed
code inside HTML, instead of the other way around.  But I can go a step
further to using templates, which allows me to write HTML that includes
references to data, instead of the code to generate that data; this
seems to be the most flexible option of the three.

Perhaps I just don't know where to look, or how to use the tools that
are available to me, but it seems there are so many template systems to
choose from, and nobody to tell me which way is right.

What do other Ruby developers use when doing web development?

Here's a summary of the templating systems I've found so far.  RDG and
The Ruby Way have been a very valuable source, as has the RAA.  Is there
anywhere else I should look?

CGI (comes with ruby):
  - Good exception-safety (if I throw an exception, then </html> will be
    correctly written to the client).
  - Not quite so good a way of representing the HTML part of what is to be
    sent to the client.

RDoc templates (http://rdoc.sourceforge.net/):
  - The template system in rdoc is very short (50 lines or so).
  - Its templating system is part of rdoc, and is not a separate package.
    There's no guarantee that it will work separately from rdoc in future
    versions.

ruby-tmpl (http://ruby-tmpl.sourceforge.net/):
  - The author appears to have reasonable knowledge of XML and has a good
    sense of humor.
  - I can't figure out how to output complex data structures like Arrays.

html-template-tools (http://www.dims.or.jp/~kakeda/ruby/):
  - Good support for Array and Hash, but new hash-like data structures will be
    treated as arrays.
  - Uses sgml-parser for its dirty work.

HTML::Template (http://www.0xfa.com/~ikechin/ruby.html):
  - Very simple.
  - Has good supports for user-defined data types, but I'm required to iterate
    over them myself.
  - Does it's parsing using regular expressions, so it might substitute the 
    wrong thing in the wrong place.

IOWA (http://www.beta4.com/iowa/):
  - My first experience with it was a segfault, and I haven't had time to
    discover the cause.
  - Appears to have good separation of code from html, and allows the html to
    be edited with a wysiwyg editor.

eruby (http://www.modruby.net/):
  - Can I use eruby with fastcgi?  Using mod_ruby has a number of security
    issues.
  - Seems to have good exception-safety.
  - Has a tendency to parse incorrectly (it interprets 'puts "<table
    width=100%>"' incorrectly)

ERb (http://www2a.biglobe.ne.jp/~seki/ruby/erb.html):
  - not much English documentation, but looks much like eruby.

Ruby Publishing Framework (http://software.terralab.com/framework/):
  - An almost overwhelmingly large API.
  - Somewhat lacking in documentation.
  - XML may be a little heavy for many applications.

Paul

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