[#32926] Re: smallest non-zero number (and other limits) — Bil Kleb <W.L.Kleb@...>
It looks like it has been a year since I first posed
[#32935] RDoc error(?) with template file — moontoeki@... (Sung Moon)
RDoc error(?) with template file
moontoeki@aol.com (Sung Moon) writes:
[#32948] Ruby + XML Proposal — Bryan Murphy <bryan@...>
The following is a sample application that will be included with the next revision
[#32950] for the FAQ maybe — "Aidan Mark" <ahumphr@...>
I didn't see this in the FAQ but its a frequently asked newbie question.
[#32995] RDoc parsing error — TAKAHASHI Masayoshi <maki@...>
Hello,
[#33003] Variable types — David Corbin <dcorbin@...>
I know I'm new to ruby, but I feel obligated to share my dislike for
[#33034] bash-like command splitting (for regexp wizards) — Massimiliano Mirra <info@...>
I am trying to split a command line containing several commands that
On Feb 3, Massimiliano Mirra said:
[#33039] range and modification — moontoeki@... (Sung Moon)
Two things to think about.
[#33048] Terminology (was: Soap4r/Webrick question) — " JamesBritt" <james@...>
[#33065] http://www.loveruby.net/ with Netscape 4.79 — Stephan K舂per <Stephan.Kaemper@...>
Hi all,
[#33076] Mixins and accessing earlier definitions. — Hugh Sasse Staff Elec Eng <hgs@...>
Having read in the archives that super can be used to go back in the
>>>>> "H" == Hugh Sasse Staff Elec Eng <hgs@dmu.ac.uk> writes:
On Tue, 5 Feb 2002, ts wrote:
>>>>> "H" == Hugh Sasse Staff Elec Eng <hgs@dmu.ac.uk> writes:
[#33093] CVS commit emails — Martin Man <Martin.Man@...>
hi all,
Hi,
On Tue, Feb 05, 2002 at 05:00:43PM +0900, Yukihiro Matsumoto wrote:
[#33094] Ruby bug? IO.close doesn't check for error — Matt Armstrong <matt@...>
It is possible for fclose() to fail (for example, when fclose() needs
[#33096] newbie: Array element conversion — Mark Probert <probertm@...>
On Tue, 5 Feb 2002, Mark Probert wrote:
[#33128] Progress with Ruby/Tk — Peter Hickman <peter@...>
Thanks for all the help and pointers that people have given me, as you
[#33129] Ruby and Swig?? — Markus Jais <mjais@...>
hello
[#33135] some dbi questions (probably postres specific) — fastjack@... (Martin Maciaszek)
I'm playing around with dbi and postgres. After a while two problems remained
[#33174] generating Ruby libs from XML Schemas — Tobias Reif <tobiasreif@...>
Hi,
[#33200] Regexp::Parser ported to Ruby...? — "Jeff 'japhy' Pinyan" <jeffp@...>
I'm writing a Perl module for the parsing and handling of regexes. It's
This would be very interesting and a way to play with RegExp's in Ruby in
[#33238] mkmf, extconf.rb — Hugh Sasse Staff Elec Eng <hgs@...>
Further to my suggestions in Ruby-Talk:31391, about adding methods to
Hi,
On Thu, 7 Feb 2002 nobu.nokada@softhome.net wrote:
[#33242] favicon.ico — Dave Thomas <Dave@...>
On Thu, 7 Feb 2002, I wrote:
Thomas Hurst wrote:
[#33281] MYSql on Windows - help! — Dave Thomas <Dave@...>
[#33286] returning multiple values from a method — ptkwt@...1.aracnet.com (Phil Tomson)
irb(main):001:0> def foo; return 1,2,3; end
[#33292] shuffle (all possible sequences) — Tobias Reif <tobiasreif@...>
Hi,
[#33309] XML::SAX2 critique — msergeant@... (Matt Sergeant)
This isn't exactly a critique of XML::SAX2 per-se, but more of the
[#33321] ruby and vim — fastjack@... (Martin Maciaszek)
To edit my ruby code I rediscovered the good old vim. vim6 even has
[#33324] Class variable bug — "Chr. Rippel" <chr_news@...>
It seems that the following class variable bug feel through the
Hi,
[#33344] Adding rockit power to Rdoc? — Bil Kleb <W.L.Kleb@...>
While researching the feasibility of teaching Rdoc to
[#33356] SMTP and attachments — Steve Tuckner <STUCKNER@...>
Does anyone know how to send an e-mail with attachments using net/smtp?
[#33381] Latest CVS/Win32 build error — "Bob Calco" <robert.calco@...>
Anyone:
[#33382] FXRuby: how to create a static status line? — Jos Backus <josb@...>
I'm trying to create a status line at the bottom of the application window
[#33396] Setting the Ruby — "Aidan Mark" <ahumphr@...>
Around 1994 I was writing a book on Perl. I mentioned this to an old timer.
[#33419] Re: NT Service — "Marty Alchin" <gulopine@...>
>I used FireDaemon some years back and it worked so well that if you
[#33421] iowa segfault — Paul Brannan <paul@...>
I know there used to be a mailing list for iowa, but listbot seems to be
[#33423] Need help with ruby-gimp please — Jim Freeze <jfreeze@...>
Hi:
[#33435] Reg: tiny contest: who's faster? (add_a_gram) — grady@... (Steven Grady)
> My current solution works correctly with various inputs.
grady@xcf.berkeley.edu (Steven Grady) writes:
[#33462] Google programming contest.... — "Mikkel Bruun" <lists@...>
Im a little amazed that this hasn't been brought up yet...
[#33470] 'is a quine' is a quine — Thomas Hurst <tom.hurst@...>
In case anyone's bored, how about another of those nice challanges?
[#33499] SourceForge Foundry for Ruby ? — Richard Harlos <quadzero@...>
Hi, folks. I'm interested to know if any of you would support the
[#33500] Ruby Embedded Documentation — William Djaja Tjokroaminata <billtj@...>
Hi,
> Now, I am using Ruby on Linux, and I have downloaded Ruby version
>>>>> "L" == Lyle Johnson <ljohnson@resgen.com> writes:
In message "Re: Ruby Embedded Documentation"
[#33518] Ruby interpreter's stability (hosting companies etc.) — Tobias Reif <tobiasreif@...>
Hi,
[#33535] Class variable madness — stern@... (Alan Stern)
Can someone tell me what's going on here? Or has this already been fixed?
[#33556] ByteCodeRuby 0.1.0 — "triptych" <triptych@...>
The latest version of ByteCodeRuby is now available from the RubyVM project
[#33560] syntax across languages — Pixel <pixel@...>
http://merd.net/pixel/language-study/syntax-across-languages.html
[#33570] array diff — Tobias Reif <tobiasreif@...>
Hi,
[#33607] Ruby browser similar to Smalltalk browsers? — John Clarke <clarkej@...>
Hi,
[#33615] Name resolution in Ruby — stern@... (Alan Stern)
I've been struggling to understand how name resolution is supposed to
[#33617] choice of HTML templating system — Paul Brannan <paul@...>
I am not a web developer, nor do I pretend to be one.
[#33619] make first letter lowercase — sebi@... (sebi)
hello,
sebi wrote:
On Feb 11, Tobias Reif said:
[#33630] Help with i18n and RDoc, please.... — Dave Thomas <Dave@...>
[#33672] rubycentral.com down? — J Anthony <jeremy@...>
pardon me if this is the wrong place to ask, but what's up with
[#33695] Ruby/Tk reference — Nemesis@... (Nemesis)
Hi everyone, I'm searching for a free ruby/tk reference (I've found one
[#33702] eruby + apache and charset — Yuri Leikind <YuriLeikind@...>
Hello all,
[#33711] Ruby Developer's Guide has arrived :-) — David Alan Black <dblack@...>
Hi --
[#33712] Ruby performance on the Language Shootout — ptkwt@...1.aracnet.com (Phil Tomson)
I haven't taken a look at the Great Computer Language Shootout page for
[#33715] Possible bug -- ruby cvs (1.7.2 2002-02-10) interpreter seg fault — Matt Armstrong <matt@...>
If I run this script
[#33731] simple XML parsing (greedy / non-greedy — Ron Jeffries <ronjeffries@...>
Suppose I had this text
[#33743] qualms about respond_to? idiom — David Alan Black <dblack@...>
Hi --
David Alan Black <dblack@candle.superlink.net> writes:
Hi --
David Alan Black <dblack@candle.superlink.net> writes:
Paul Brannan <paul@atdesk.com> writes:
[#33761] (CSV) text file processing... — bobx@... (Bob)
I am looking for an example of (csv)text file processing. What I am
[#33848] "Powered by Ruby" banner — Yuri Leikind <YuriLeikind@...>
Hello Ruby folks,
On Thu, 14 Feb 2002, Yuri Leikind wrote:
A modest submission:
Kent Dahl wrote:
On 2/15/02 5:54 AM, "yet another bill smith" <bigbill.smith@verizon.net>
i just don't understand why it didn't show up! dhtml/javascript, ok, but a
On 2/15/02 7:16 AM, "Jack Dempsey" <dempsejn@georgetown.edu> wrote:
Chris Gehlker wrote:
In message <3c6e5e01_1@spamkiller.newsgroups.com>,
* Rob Partington (rjp@browser.org) wrote:
Thomas Hurst wrote:
In message <20020216140007.GB75585@voi.aagh.net>,
* Rob Partington (rjp@browser.org) wrote:
Thomas Hurst wrote:
In article <3C6CFCCA.5AD5CA67@scnsoft.com>, Yuri Leikind wrote:
On Fri, 15 Feb 2002, Martin Maciaszek wrote:
On 2/15/02 10:59 AM, "Leon Torres" <leon@ugcs.caltech.edu> wrote:
hello ppl,
[#33851] Ruby and .NET — Patrik Sundberg <ps@...>
I have been reading a bit about .NET for the last couple of days and must say
Erik B虍fors wrote:
Hi,
On Thu, Feb 14, 2002 at 10:22:31PM +0900, Stephan J. Schmidt wrote:
On Thu, 2002-02-14 at 14:27, Patrik Sundberg wrote:
Javier Fontan wrote:
Sean Middleditch wrote:
[#33885] File.open weirdness — "Craig Files" <craig_files@...>
Hi,
[#33899] building ruby — Mark Probert <probertm@...>
[#33915] Keyword arguments (Was: File.open weirdness) — Martin Man <Martin.Man@...>
On Fri, Feb 15, 2002 at 04:59:23AM +0900, Craig Files wrote:
[#33923] SWIG/Ruby woes with g++ 3.0 — Luigi Ballabio <ballabio@...>
> I just found a problem with generated SWIG code and g++ 3.0.3 which
Lyle,
> I don't think that this is fixed yet. (I attempted to email
[#33943] CGI::Session problems — dmcnulty@... (Dan McNulty)
Argh!
[#34013] hash as key in hash — Albert Wagner <alwagner@...>
I don't understand why this doesn't work. Can anyone help?
[#34024] Compiled companion language for Ruby? — Erik Terpstra <erik@...>
Hmmm, seems that my previous post was in a different thread, I'll try
[#34030] LocalJumpError when defining each — Matt Kussow <junk@...>
The following script seems to work with ruby version 1.6.5, but not with 1.6.6.
Hello --
[#34036] The GUI Returns — "Horacio Lopez" <vruz@...>
Hello all,
[#34037] dump/load a class that has C and Ruby data — Joel VanderWerf <vjoel@...>
[#34048] Formatting — David Corbin <dcorbin@...>
In C, people use printf to format data nicely for display. In Java,
[#34053] OOP overhead (Was: tiny contest...) — Albert Wagner <alwagner@...>
I got stuck in a tar baby re: the tiny contest proposed by Tobias. I was
Richard Harlos wrote:
On 2/17/02 3:45 PM, "Sean Russell" <ser@germane-software.com> wrote:
[#34077] Problems with Ruby in C — Joakim Andersson <tyrak@...>
Hi,
[#34099] net/http or webfetcher with pasworded urls — Ron Jeffries <ronjeffries@...>
Hi, some help please ...
[#34107] x =~ /pat/, "return type?" — David Corbin <dcorbin@...>
When I say:
[#34131] alias danger — Joel VanderWerf <vjoel@...>
[#34162] Epic4/Ruby — Thomas Hurst <tom.hurst@...>
Rejoice, for you no longer have to put up with that evil excuse for a
On Tue, Feb 19, 2002 at 01:31:01AM +0900, Thomas Hurst wrote:
Hi,
In article <1014312459.984378.27488.nullmailer@ev.netlab.jp>,
[#34179] expect.rb vs Expect (Tcl)... — Hugh Sasse Staff Elec Eng <hgs@...>
I have had a look at the expect.rb in the 1.6 library.
[#34183] Rinn and Perl CORBA::ORBit — Selander@...
Good evening,
On Tue, Feb 19, 2002 at 04:57:43AM +0900, Selander@thomases.com wrote:
[#34185] Operator overloading and multiple arguments — ptkwt@...1.aracnet.com (Phil Tomson)
I'm trying to overload the '<=' operator in a class in order to use it for
[#34189] FalseClass / TrueClass singleton methods? — Brad Hilton <bhilton@...>
Hello,
"Brad Hilton" <bhilton@vpop.net> wrote in
[#34217] Ruby for web development — beripome@... (Billy)
Hi all,
Hey!
[#34228] RE: Ruby, PickAxe, FreeRIDE mentioned on BYTE magazine — "Curt Hibbs" <curt@...>
Horacio Lopez wrote:
[#34284] advice on dispatch tables — Mark Probert <probertm@...>
[#34294] Java JNI and Ruby — "Rich Kilmer" <rich@...>
I know about the JRuby project, but has anyone looked in to just embedding
[#34304] strings embedded inside strings — Paul Brannan <paul@...>
I've seen this on the ML before, but searching the ruby-talk archives I
[#34315] eRuby and require — beripome@... (Billy)
Hi all,
[#34329] ruby booting? — Chris Moore <kurisu@...>
This is gonna sound crazy but how hard would it be to make ruby boot as
[#34335] patch to allow dump/load to work on DATA objects — Joel VanderWerf <vjoel@...>
[#34350] FAQ for comp.lang.ruby — "Hal E. Fulton" <hal9000@...>
RUBY NEWSGROUP FAQ -- Welcome to comp.lang.ruby! (Revised 2001-2-18)
> Ruby selectively integrates many good ideas taken from Perl,
Hi,
matz@ruby-lang.org (Yukihiro Matsumoto) writes:
[#34361] REBOL vs Ruby — beripome@... (Billy)
Hi all,
Hi,
[#34375] Setting the Ruby continued — <jostein.berntsen@...>
Hi,
Also VERY important:
Hello,
Ok, I can't take part in developing ruby not becouse of the language
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[#34379] including files in eruby — Martin Maciaszek <mmaciaszek@...>
I'm using eruby on some of my web pages. Now they became big and
[#34405] Now I'm really confused! — Chris Gehlker <gehlker@...>
I'm still struggling with producing RubyStudio. The following example
[#34412] dang it, CGI::Session is broken again — dmcnulty@... (Dan McNulty)
What is wrong with this? I swear this was working yesterday, but now
[#34446] eRuby and erb — moontoeki@... (Sung Moon)
I would like to use either of eRuby or erb for my web design.
[#34457] Help with blocks? — "Pattern-chaser" <patternChaser@...>
I'm trying to learn Ruby; just started. I like what I've understood
[#34467] recursive require — Ron Jeffries <ronjeffries@...>
I'm having a really odd thing happen with two files that mutually
[#34489] IPSocket.getaddress and signals — Joseph McDonald <joe@...>
[#34503] special characters — Tobias Reif <tobiasreif@...>
Hi all,
Urban Hafner wrote:
[#34515] Rubicon Failure — Urban Hafner <ruby-lists@...>
Hey hey,
[#34517] Windows Installer Ruby 166-0 available — Andrew Hunt <andy@...>
[#34554] dispatching and class references — Mark Probert <probertm@...>
On Sat, Feb 23, 2002 at 04:19:19AM +0900, Mark Probert wrote:
[#34566] Ruby's Future — Paulo Schreiner <paulo@...>
Hello, folks, what are the plans for the future of ruby? What new
Speaking of which, I remember and argument I brought up (and some of
Hi,
[#34597] rdoc/xml questions — Dave Thomas <Dave@...>
> From: dave@thomases.com [mailto:dave@thomases.com]On Behalf Of Dave
james@rubyxml.com writes:
james@rubyxml.com wrote:
[#34631] Object/Memory Management — "Sean O'Dell" <sean@...>
I'm new to Ruby and the community here (I've been learning Ruby for a grand
"Sean O'Dell" <sean@celsoft.com> writes:
On 2/23/02 5:15 PM, "Dave Thomas" <Dave@PragmaticProgrammer.com> wrote:
"Sean Middleditch" <elanthis@awesomeplay.com> wrote in message > On Sat,
On Sun, 2002-02-24 at 04:22, Sean O'Dell wrote:
[#34661] Re: Newbie question — "roktas" <roktas@...>
Hi,
Hello --
Hi!
[#34682] duplicate method name — Ron Jeffries <ronjeffries@...>
I just found a case in a test file where i had two tests of the same
Hi Ron.
[#34732] Hash.each block parameters — "Sean O'Dell" <sean@...>
I ran into a problem where I should have called .each_key for a hash, but I
[#34735] TestUnit 0.1.1 — <nathaniel@...>
From the README:
[#34748] Assignment Rules — "Sean O'Dell" <sean@...>
I'm trying to get in my head what the rules about assignment are. So far
[#34750] inconsistence in class complex — juergen.katins@... (Juergen Katins)
While translating the book "Programming Ruby" by Dave Thomas and
[#34753] 9 years with Ruby — matz@... (Yukihiro Matsumoto)
Hi,
[#34762] Directory copy recursively — kwatch@... (kwatch)
Hi,
[#34777] CONFIG['(site|ruby)libdir'] policies? — Massimiliano Mirra <list@...>
On my system (Debian Linux), Config::CONFIG['sitelibdir'] and
Massimiliano Mirra <list@chromatic-harp.com> writes:
[#34778] Re: Windows Installer Ruby 166-0 available — Andrew Hunt <andy@...>
Alexander writes:
[#34780] RCR 65: IO orthogonalization, improved reusability — "Thomas Sdergaard" <tsondergaard@...>
I hope I'm not violating the rubiqette by cross-posting this from
"Thomas Sdergaard" <tsondergaard@speakanet.com> writes:
[#34791] Style Question — Ron Jeffries <ronjeffries@...>
So I'm building this set theory library. The "only" object is supposed
[#34823] Can't get stderr to flush — Chris Gehlker <gehlker@...>
[#34835] Standard preambles and prompting on standard error? — Chris Gehlker <gehlker@...>
I've been testing RubyStudio against the sample programs that come with
[#34857] TestUnit 0.1.3 — <nathaniel@...>
From the README:
[#34896] New OS for Old Mac — Chris Gehlker <gehlker@...>
I have an old Mac 6400 that I want to use as a server. Ruby for the old Mac
[#34905] Rescue Clause — "Sean O'Dell" <sean@...>
Where all can you put rescue clauses? Are these correct:
[#34912] RCR?: parallel to until: as_soon_as — Tobias Reif <tobiasreif@...>
Hi,
Hi --
[#34920] RE: Kernel.system incongurity - Windows98 — "Morris, Chris" <chris.morris@...>
[#34941] rpkg 0.3 pre-release and beta testers — Massimiliano Mirra <list@...>
I've just uploaded rpkg 0.3 to www.allruby.com/rpkg/rpkg-0.3.tar.gz
[#34961] RE: RCR 65: IO orthogonalization, improved reusability — =?Windows-1252?Q?Thomas_S=F8ndergaard?= <tsondergaard@...>
"Thomas Sdergaard" <tsondergaard@speakanet.com> wrote in message
[#34971] RDoc and XML - opinions please — Dave Thomas <Dave@...>
[#34972] OT A Question on work styles — Chris Gehlker <gehlker@...>
As a Mac baby I just had to step through ruby in GDB *from the command line*
Hi,
On Thu, 28 Feb 2002 05:21:24 GMT, Chris Gehlker <gehlker@fastq.com> wrote:
[#34998] Matrix class in Ruby — jasa <jasa@...>
Hi,
[#35008] RDoc with XML — Dave Thomas <Dave@...>
[#35015] Time Comparison — "Sean O'Dell" <sean@...>
I am using the time object to compare times between two files and I'm
Hi
FAQ for comp.lang.ruby
RUBY NEWSGROUP FAQ -- Welcome to comp.lang.ruby! (Revised 2001-2-18)
This FAQ contains information for those who want to:
1) learn more about Ruby, and want to=20
2) post to comp.lang.ruby or to the ruby-lang mail list, or want to
3) provide anonymous feedback to help us improve Ruby.
This FAQ will be posted monthly.
TABLE OF CONTENTS
1 About Ruby
1.1 What is Ruby?
1.2 Where can I find out more about Ruby?
2 About comp.lang.ruby.
2.1 Tell me about comp.lang.ruby.
2.2 Tell me the posting guidelines for comp.lang.ruby.
2.3 Tell me about the prolific Matz poster.
2.4 How do the mailing list and newsgroup interrelate?
2.5 What are these 5-digit message numbers?
3 Anything else?
1 About Ruby
1.1 What is Ruby?
Ruby is a very high level, fully OO programming language. Indeed,
Ruby is one of the relatively few pure OO languages. Yet despite
its conceptual simplicity, Ruby is still a powerful and practical
"industrial strength" development language. =20
Ruby selectively integrates many good ideas taken from Perl,
Python, Smalltalk, Eiffel, ADA, Clu, and Lisp. (Ruby is more
fully OO than Python in so far as basic types such as hashes can
be subclassed. See Ruby FAQ 1.4.) Ruby combines these ideas in a
natural, well-coordinated system that embodies the principles of
least effort and least surprise to a substantially greater extent
than most comparable languages--i.e. you get more bang for your
buck, and what you write is more likely to give you what you
expected to get. Ruby is thus a relatively easy to learn, easy to
read, and easy to maintain language; yet it is very powerful and
sophisticated. =20
In addition to common OO features, Ruby also has threads,
singleton methods, mixins, fully integrated closures and
iterators, plus proper meta-classes. Ruby has a true
mark-and-sweep garbage collector, which makes code more reliable
and simplifies writing extensions. In summary, Ruby provides a
very powerful and very easy to deploy "standing on the shoulders
of giants" OO scaffolding/framework so that you can more quickly
and easily build what you want to build, to do what you want to
do. =20
=20
You will find many former (and current) Perl, Python, Java, and
C++ users on comp.lang.ruby that can help you get up to speed in
Ruby.
Finally, Ruby is an "open source" development programming
language. =20
1.2 Where can I find out more about Ruby?
Ruby's home web site:
=20
http://www.ruby-lang.org/en (Ruby English language home page.)
Follow the links to documentation, downloads, the Ruby
Application Archive, the Ruby mail list archives, and lots
of other interesting information. =20
=20
Ruby's other major on-line documentation and links site:
=20
http://www.rubycentral.com
Ruby FAQ:=20
=20
http://www.rubycentral.com/faq/
Ruby User's Guide (introductory tutorial):
http://www.ruby-lang.org/~slagell/ruby/
Ruby Reference Manual:
http://www.ruby-lang.org/en/doc.html
Ruby classes, modules, and methods reference:
http://www.rubycentral.com/ref/
English language Ruby books (recent publication order):
Ruby Developer's Guide
by Michael Neumann, Robert Feldt, Lyle Johnson
Publishers Group West; ISBN: 1928994644 (February, 2002)
The Ruby Way
by Hal Fulton
Sams; ISBN: 0672320835 (December, 2001)
Ruby In A Nutshell
by Yukihiro Matsumoto
O'Reilly & Associates; ISBN: 0596002149 (November, 2001)
Programming Ruby: A Pragmatic Guide
by Dave Thomas and Andrew Hunt
Addison Wesley; ISBN: 0201710897 (2000)
Internet version: http://www.rubycentral.com/ref/
Eratta: http://www.pragmaticprogrammer.com/ruby/errata.html
Forthcoming English language Ruby books (author alpha order):
The Ruby Programming Language
by Yukihiro "Matz" Matsumoto and Keiju Ishitsuka=20
Addison Wesley Professional; ISBN: 020171096X (June, 2002)
Sams Teach Yourself Ruby in 21 Days
by Mark Slagell
Sams; ISBN: 0672322528 (March, 2002)
Forthcoming German language Ruby books (author alpha order):
Programmieren mit Ruby
by Armin Roehrl, Stefan Schmiedl, Clemens Wyss, etc.
dpunkt.de; ISBN 3898641511 (February, 2002)
Apparently _Programming Ruby_ (Thomas/Hunt)is being published=20
in German by AWL. More on this later.
Search past postings to comp.lang.ruby or the ruby-lang mail list
(which have been mirrored to each other since mid-2000):
http://www.deja.com/home_ps.shtml
(Enter comp.lang.ruby in the "forum" entry field.)
http://blade.nagaokaut.ac.jp/ruby/ruby-talk/index.shtml
Local Ruby users and groups in your area:
http://www.pragprog.com/ruby?RubyUserGroups
2 About comp.lang.ruby.
2.1 Tell me about comp.lang.ruby
comp.lang.ruby was officially approved in early May, 2000.=20
(Conrad Schneiker, the former maintainer of this FAQ, was=20
responsible for the "net paperwork" of creating this group.)
Here is the official charter:
CHARTER: comp.lang.ruby
The comp.lang.ruby newsgroup is devoted to discussions of the
Ruby programming language and related issues.
Examples of relevant postings include, but are not limited
to, the following subjects:
- Bug reports
- Announcements of software written with Ruby
- Examples of Ruby code
- Suggestions for Ruby developers
- Requests for help from new Ruby programmers
The newsgroup is not moderated. Binaries are prohibited
(except the small PGP type). Advertising is prohibited (except
for announcements of new Ruby-related products).
END CHARTER.
2.2 Tell me the posting guidelines for comp.lang.ruby.
(You should also follow these guidelines for the ruby-list mail
list, since it is mirrored to comp.lang.ruby.)=20
(1) ALWAYS be friendly, considerate, tactful, and tasteful. We
want to keep this forum hospitable to the growing ranks of
newbies, very young people, and their teachers, as well as
cater to fire breathing wizards. :-)
(2) Keep your content relevant and easy to follow. Try to keep
your content brief and to the point, but also try to include
all relevant information.
(a) The general format guidelines (aka USENET Netiquette) are
matters of common sense and common courtesy that make life
easier for 3rd parties to follow along (in real time or=20
when perusing archives):
- PLEASE NOTE! Include quoted text from previous posts
*BEFORE* your responses. And *selectively* quote as much
as is relevant.=20
- Use *plain* text; don't use HTML, RTF, or Word. Most
mail or newsreader programs have an option for this; if
yours doesn't, get a (freeware) program or use a
web-based service that does.
- Include examples from files as *in-line* text; don't
use attachments.
(b) If reporting a problem, give *all* the relevant
information the first time; this isn't the psychic friends
newsgroup. :-) When appropriate, include:
- The version of Ruby. ("ruby -v")
- The compiler name and version used to build Ruby.
- The OS type and level. ("uname -a")
- The actual error messages.
- An example (preferably simple) that produces the
problem.
(c) If reporting a bug, please copy (cc:) your post to:
mailto:ruby-bugs@ruby-lang.org
This will enter your report into the Ruby bug database.
You can browse the database at:
http://www.ruby-lang.org/cgi-bin/ruby-bugs
(3) Make the subject line maximally informative, so that people
who should be interested will read your post and so that people
who wouldn't be interested can easily avoid it. =20
*Usefully* describe the contents of your post:
This is OK:=20
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"How can I do x with y on z?"
"Problem: did x, expected y, got z."
"Bug: doing x with module y crashed z."
This is *NOT* OK:
"Please help!!!"
"Newbie question"
"Need Ruby guru to tell me what's wrong"
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(4) Finally, be considerate: don't be too lazy. If you are
seeking information, first make a reasonable effort to look it
up. As appropriate, check the Ruby home page, check the Ruby
FAQ and other documentation, use deja.com to search past
comp.lang.ruby postings, and so on. =20
2.3 Tell me about the prolific Matz poster.
Matz (aka Yukihiro Matsumoto) is the wizard who created Ruby for
us, so be nice to him. He is very busy, so be patient when asking
questions. See the Ruby home page to find out more about him and
his work. I (Conrad Schneiker) founded comp.lang.ruby at his=20
suggestion. Contrary to lots of skepticism, it was approved on=20
the first attempt, with 200 yes votes.
2.4 How do the mailing list and newsgroup interrelate?
The mailing list is older. When the newsgroup was created, they
diverged. In mid-2001, Dave Thomas created a two-way gateway=20
that would "mirror" the newsgroup to the list and vice versa.
It is not perfect; because of variability in the news feed,=20
sometimes messages are dropped or duplicated.
The online archive of the mailing list therefore includes most
of the traffic on the newsgroup, excluding the posts that were
made before the creation of the gateway.
2.5 What are these 5-digit message numbers?
Historically, every item on the mailing list had a subject
starting with a string like: [ruby-talk:99999]
The message numbers were convenient since they were strictly
serial and formed a good way to refer to a past message. But
they interfered with threading; Matz removed them after the
matter was put to a vote in early 2002.
The news header still refers to this number, should anyone
wish to retrieve it.
You can point to a specific message by appending it onto the
ruby-talk.org URL; i.e. http://ruby-talk.org/12345 will refer
to message 12345.
3. Anything else?
If you are new to Ruby (or haven't previously taken the Ruby User
Survey), please take a moment to anonymously tell us about your
programming background and about your Ruby-related interests. The
results will be reported back to the Ruby community from time to
time. This helps us do a better job of helping each other, and to
more effectively expand the Ruby community for our mutual benefit.
The survey is at:
http://dev.rubycentral.com/survey.html
This FAQ was produced by Conrad Schneiker (schneiker@jump.net).
It is now maintained by Hal Fulton (hal9000@hypermetrics.com).
I'm interested in corrections and suggestions, but remember that
the purpose of this FAQ is to be a brief and simple introduction
for new comp.lang.ruby readers. =20
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In closing, one of the reasons that Ruby was designed to be
relatively simple, uniform, yet very powerful was to make serious
programming (among other kinds) fun. We hope you will help us
keep comp.lang.ruby fun as well. Enjoy. :-)