From: "Stephan J. Schmidt" Date: 2002-02-15T16:57:55+09:00 Subject: RE: Ruby and .NET > C# and the CLR have been submitted to ECMA; Java is controlled entirely by Sun, > who pays a great deal of lip-service to open source but ultimately interested > in selling big server hardware. > Yes, and Microsoft is ultimately interested in slaving the world to myServices. 1.) That Sun is entirely in control of Java is FUD. There are a lot of companies and groups involved in defining Java and APIs 2.) According to the Developer of C#, the control over C# is not at the ECMA, but entirely at Microsoft. THEY will drive the language and the specs (e.g. adding generics next time) bye -stephan