[#14464] who uses Python or Ruby, and for what? — ellard2@...01.fas.harvard.edu (-11,3-3562,3-3076)

A while ago I posted a request for people to share their experiences

12 messages 2001/05/01

[#14555] Ruby as a Mac OS/X scripting language — Dave Thomas <Dave@...>

10 messages 2001/05/02

[#14557] Arggg Bitten by the block var scope feature!!! — Wayne Scott <wscott@...>

13 messages 2001/05/02

[#14598] Re: Arggg Bitten by the block var scope feature!!! — "Conrad Schneiker" <schneik@...>

# On Thu, 3 May 2001, Wayne Scott wrote:

9 messages 2001/05/03

[#14636] Yet another "About private methods" question — Eric Jacoboni <jacoboni@...2.fr>

I'm still trying to figure out the semantics of private methods in Ruby.

39 messages 2001/05/04
[#14656] Re: Yet another "About private methods" question — Dave Thomas <Dave@...> 2001/05/04

Eric Jacoboni <jaco@teaser.fr> writes:

[#14666] Ruby and Web Applications — "Chris Montgomery" <monty@...> 2001/05/04

Greetings from a newbie,

[#14772] Re: Ruby and Web Applications — Jim Freeze <jim@...> 2001/05/07

On Sat, 5 May 2001, Chris Montgomery wrote:

[#14710] Why's Ruby so slow in this case? — Stefan Matthias Aust <sma@3plus4.de>

Sure, Ruby, being interpreted, is slower than a compiled language.

12 messages 2001/05/05

[#14881] Class/Module Information — "John Kaurin" <jkaurin@...>

It is possible to modify the following code to produce

18 messages 2001/05/09

[#15034] Re: calling .inspect on array/hash causes core dump — ts <decoux@...>

>>>>> "A" == Andreas Riedl <viisi@chello.at> writes:

15 messages 2001/05/12

[#15198] Re: Q: GUI framework with direct drawing ca pabilities? — Steve Tuckner <SAT@...>

Would it be a good idea to develop a pure Ruby GUI framework built on top of

13 messages 2001/05/15

[#15234] Pluggable sorting - How would you do it? — "Hal E. Fulton" <hal9000@...>

Hello all,

16 messages 2001/05/16

[#15549] ColdFusion for Ruby — "Michael Dinowitz" <mdinowit@...2000.com>

I don't currently use Ruby. To tell the truth, I have no real reason to. I'd

12 messages 2001/05/22

[#15569] I like ruby-chan ... — Rob Armstrong <rob@...>

Ruby is more human(e) than Python. We already have too many animals :-).

15 messages 2001/05/23

[#15601] How to avoid spelling mistakes of variable names — ndrochak@... (Nick Drochak)

Since Ruby does not require a variable to be declared, do people find

13 messages 2001/05/23

[#15734] java based interpreter and regexes — "Wayne Blair" <wayne.blair@...>

I have been thinking about the java based ruby interpreter project, and I

48 messages 2001/05/25

[#15804] is it possible to dynamically coerce objects types in Ruby? — mirian@... (Mirian Crzig Lennox)

Greetings to all. I am a newcomer to Ruby and I am exploring the

13 messages 2001/05/27
[#15807] Re: is it possible to dynamically coerce objects types in Ruby? — matz@... (Yukihiro Matsumoto) 2001/05/27

Hi,

[#15863] Experimental "in" operator for collections — Stefan Matthias Aust <sma@3plus4.de>

There's one thing where I prefer Python over Ruby. Testing whether an

13 messages 2001/05/28

[#15925] Re: Block arguments vs method arguments — ts <decoux@...>

>>>>> "M" == Mike <mike@lepton.fr> writes:

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[#16070] Re: Block arguments vs method arguments — "Hal E. Fulton" <hal9000@...> 2001/05/31

----- Original Message -----

[#16081] Re: Block arguments vs method arguments — Sean Russell <ser@...> 2001/05/31

On Thu, May 31, 2001 at 11:53:17AM +0900, Hal E. Fulton wrote:

[#16088] Re: Block arguments vs method arguments — Dan Moniz <dnm@...> 2001/05/31

At 11:01 PM 5/31/2001 +0900, Sean Russell wrote:

[#15954] new keyword idea: tryreturn, tryturn or done — Juha Pohjalainen <voidjump@...>

Hello everyone!

12 messages 2001/05/29

[ruby-talk:16031] Re: Ruby Standard and Enterprise Edition

From: "Benjamin J. Tilly" <ben_tilly@...>
Date: 2001-05-30 12:57:19 UTC
List: ruby-talk #16031
Lothar Scholz <llothar@mailandnews.de> wrote:
>On Wed, 30 May 2001 00:44:48 GMT, ptkwt@shell1.aracnet.com (Phil
>Tomson) wrote:
>
>>In article <3B4B4F3B@operamail.com>,
>>Benjamin J. Tilly <ben_tilly@operamail.com> wrote:
>>>Lothar Scholz <llothar@mailandnews.de> wrote:
>>>On Wed, 30 May 2001 07:44:58 +0900, Glen Starchman
>>><glen@enabledventures.com> wrote:
>>>[...]
>>>
>>>Off of the top of my head, the following small companies are
>>>based on open source and as far as I know are doing just fine:
>>>Loki, Crynwr, Sleepycat, Stonehenge, Ars Digita, Scyld,
>>>Aladdin...
>
>Loki ???
>Perhaps they have some very small minor product spin offs like the
>installer - but mainly they are very very closed source.

Yes, Loki.  The games you are thinking of are not theirs.
They are ports done per contract.  However the porting
libraries, graphics work, etc that *do* belong to Loki
are open source.  Go to http://www.lokigames.com/development/
and choose which one to download.

>>And in this particular product space there is ActiveState which has been
>>making noises about supporting Ruby ...  They seem to be doing well.

I deliberately avoided most of the obvious open source
companies.

>You got the Source code for Kommodo ??
>I only got an offer to buy it for 400$

If you look closely at the companies that I listed you
will find most walk interesting lines between open source
and proprietary software.  I did not just list many
companies, I also listed companies with different
strategies.  Every one has a strategy that revolves in
some way around open source.  But they are all different.

Note that most of them predate Open Source as a buzzword.

>I was talking about the companies which tried to live on open source
>support without having a proprietary product. I don't believe that
>there is a chance to change this. All you get is turning your
>"company" into a consulting agency - but than developing time must
>be very reduced.

This varies from company to company.  I am unconvinced
that proprietary software realistically devotes a greater
portion of their energy to development than open source
software can.

But yes, consulting models do seem popular.

Cheers,
Ben

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