[#14464] who uses Python or Ruby, and for what? — ellard2@...01.fas.harvard.edu (-11,3-3562,3-3076)

A while ago I posted a request for people to share their experiences

12 messages 2001/05/01

[#14555] Ruby as a Mac OS/X scripting language — Dave Thomas <Dave@...>

10 messages 2001/05/02

[#14557] Arggg Bitten by the block var scope feature!!! — Wayne Scott <wscott@...>

13 messages 2001/05/02

[#14598] Re: Arggg Bitten by the block var scope feature!!! — "Conrad Schneiker" <schneik@...>

# On Thu, 3 May 2001, Wayne Scott wrote:

9 messages 2001/05/03

[#14636] Yet another "About private methods" question — Eric Jacoboni <jacoboni@...2.fr>

I'm still trying to figure out the semantics of private methods in Ruby.

39 messages 2001/05/04
[#14656] Re: Yet another "About private methods" question — Dave Thomas <Dave@...> 2001/05/04

Eric Jacoboni <jaco@teaser.fr> writes:

[#14666] Ruby and Web Applications — "Chris Montgomery" <monty@...> 2001/05/04

Greetings from a newbie,

[#14772] Re: Ruby and Web Applications — Jim Freeze <jim@...> 2001/05/07

On Sat, 5 May 2001, Chris Montgomery wrote:

[#14710] Why's Ruby so slow in this case? — Stefan Matthias Aust <sma@3plus4.de>

Sure, Ruby, being interpreted, is slower than a compiled language.

12 messages 2001/05/05

[#14881] Class/Module Information — "John Kaurin" <jkaurin@...>

It is possible to modify the following code to produce

18 messages 2001/05/09

[#15034] Re: calling .inspect on array/hash causes core dump — ts <decoux@...>

>>>>> "A" == Andreas Riedl <viisi@chello.at> writes:

15 messages 2001/05/12

[#15198] Re: Q: GUI framework with direct drawing ca pabilities? — Steve Tuckner <SAT@...>

Would it be a good idea to develop a pure Ruby GUI framework built on top of

13 messages 2001/05/15

[#15234] Pluggable sorting - How would you do it? — "Hal E. Fulton" <hal9000@...>

Hello all,

16 messages 2001/05/16

[#15549] ColdFusion for Ruby — "Michael Dinowitz" <mdinowit@...2000.com>

I don't currently use Ruby. To tell the truth, I have no real reason to. I'd

12 messages 2001/05/22

[#15569] I like ruby-chan ... — Rob Armstrong <rob@...>

Ruby is more human(e) than Python. We already have too many animals :-).

15 messages 2001/05/23

[#15601] How to avoid spelling mistakes of variable names — ndrochak@... (Nick Drochak)

Since Ruby does not require a variable to be declared, do people find

13 messages 2001/05/23

[#15734] java based interpreter and regexes — "Wayne Blair" <wayne.blair@...>

I have been thinking about the java based ruby interpreter project, and I

48 messages 2001/05/25

[#15804] is it possible to dynamically coerce objects types in Ruby? — mirian@... (Mirian Crzig Lennox)

Greetings to all. I am a newcomer to Ruby and I am exploring the

13 messages 2001/05/27
[#15807] Re: is it possible to dynamically coerce objects types in Ruby? — matz@... (Yukihiro Matsumoto) 2001/05/27

Hi,

[#15863] Experimental "in" operator for collections — Stefan Matthias Aust <sma@3plus4.de>

There's one thing where I prefer Python over Ruby. Testing whether an

13 messages 2001/05/28

[#15925] Re: Block arguments vs method arguments — ts <decoux@...>

>>>>> "M" == Mike <mike@lepton.fr> writes:

43 messages 2001/05/29
[#16070] Re: Block arguments vs method arguments — "Hal E. Fulton" <hal9000@...> 2001/05/31

----- Original Message -----

[#16081] Re: Block arguments vs method arguments — Sean Russell <ser@...> 2001/05/31

On Thu, May 31, 2001 at 11:53:17AM +0900, Hal E. Fulton wrote:

[#16088] Re: Block arguments vs method arguments — Dan Moniz <dnm@...> 2001/05/31

At 11:01 PM 5/31/2001 +0900, Sean Russell wrote:

[#15954] new keyword idea: tryreturn, tryturn or done — Juha Pohjalainen <voidjump@...>

Hello everyone!

12 messages 2001/05/29

[ruby-talk:15306] Re: [OT-ish] language (was: Re: Discussion on new Ruby features)

From: David Alan Black <dblack@...>
Date: 2001-05-16 18:29:07 UTC
List: ruby-talk #15306
On Wed, 16 May 2001, Benjamin J. Tilly wrote:

> >===== Original Message From matz@zetabits.com (Yukihiro Matsumoto) =====
> >Hi,
> >
> >In message "[ruby-talk:15232] Re: Discussion on new Ruby features"
> >    on 01/05/16, "Hal E. Fulton" <hal9000@hypermetrics.com> writes:
> >
> >|I wonder if there's an English-vs-Japanese word-order effect here? Or
> >|maybe it's just me.
> >
> >Maybe.  You might not know that Japanese are pretty free-of-order
> >language.
>
> You mentioned this before.
>
> For those who missed it, Japanese is like German or Latin in being
> an inflected language.  The role of a word in the sentence is
> determined from the ending of the word, and not the position of
> the word in the sentence.
>
> Thus while there may be an order that people usually use, it is
> not required.

You would sound *very* strange in German if you messed with the word
order :-)

> What this also means is that any German who wants could put the
> verb earlier in the sentence and make translators happy.  But
> no, they just have to be difficult about it... :-)

Let's be fair to German :-)  Well, the verb-at-end thing does happen,
but not across the board.  It happens with auxiliaries and participles
or infinitives, or subordinate clauses, like:

   Ich habe das Buch gelesen.
    I  have the book   read .

whereas:

   Ich lese das Buch.
   I read (am reading) the book.

but also:

   Wie interessant, dass du das Buch liesst.
   How interesting  that you the book are reading.


I keep trying to ferret out correspondences between computer languages
and natural languages (I don't mean at a cognitive level -- more at an
aesthetic level), but it's all so intuitive as not to mean much.  I
find Perl's context sensitivity to be very inflection-like, sort of
like inflected articles that obviate prepositions (German "dem" often
equivalent on its own to "to the", for example).


David

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