[ruby-talk:6957] return value of mutating methods

I recently came across this issue in some code I was developing.
Going thru the archives I saw that there was a discussion of this sometime
ago but I wasn't sure if a consensus had been reached.

Should the return value of mutating methods (syntactically indicated with a
suffix 'bang') be specified?  Should they return value be nil or the object
being modified?

For example, suppose you want to read in a line, remove a terminating
newline and downcase it.  Couple of choices are:

  line = line.chomp.downcase      # creates unnecessary garbage
           vs
  line.chomp! ; line.downcase!    # verbose, seems in-elegant

There is an expression elegance if we were able to say:

  line.chomp!.downcase!
         
In order to be able to chain mutating method calls (and the resulting
conciseness of expression) I would vote for all builtin mutating methods to
return the object so changed.  A similar convention being used for all user
written mutating methods.

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I'm not sure if there is a "right" or "wrong" answer to this question of
(nil vs modified object return value).  Some other language communities have
dicussed long and hard on this issue ...

The Scheme community have -long- discussed this and have moved in favor of
leaving the return value of side-effecting routines to be "undefined".
Different implementations, depending on the context return different values,
e.g.,

  (define a 3)   ;->  'a'
  (set!   a 3)   ;->   3
  etc

while others (Chez Scheme) have explicitly created an "undefined" object
(#<void>).  

In OOSC Meyer points out the benefits of conceptually separating two types of
methods "queries" (no side-effect) from "commands (side-effects).  But his
argument is more in the context of testing for pre/post conditions and
invariants --- one can't test using a query that also changes its argument.
A sort of CS equivalent of "Heisenberg uncertainty" :-).  The prototypical
example being the problem of testing a stack with an implementation of #pop
which returns the top value -and- removes it.  He prefers #top (query) and
#pop (command which just removes the top element without returning a value).

Ruby (like Scheme) has the very nice ability to -syntactically-
differentiate between queries and commands. So it seems that for the
Stack#pop objection, if one provides #top and #pop! (return + mutate) and
uses the convention that no "bang" methods should be used in
pre/post/invariant testing things should be OK.

Raja