From: markus jais Date: 2000-12-16T03:43:44+09:00 Subject: [ruby-talk:7339] Re: A Java Developer's Wish List for Ruby > > (2) offer an integrated GUI competitive with Java's Swing. > as gui development is very importand today (look for example the effort made on KDE, Gnome) I too think that it would be very useful if one can do Gui in ruby in an easy way. but to develop a complete new Gui toolkit (if you ment this) is maybe not a good idea. there are already a couple of (often unstable) bindings like Gtk, Qt ord Tk. I think, that Gtk+ would be a good choice as a standard gui toolkit for Rugy, because it is 1. open source 2. quite easy 3 . very powerful 4. is currently also ported to windows Qt is also a really great tool, bat I have read, that making bindings to Gtk+ is easier (because it is writtin in C, not in C++) Gtk+ has already bindings for nearly every language (including the import one like, C++, Python and Perl) so a lot of developers can translate their experience with this bindings to Ruby. Gtk2.0 will appear next year AFAIK. so I think, that making good bindings for this would be very important for Ruby. I am currently playing with Python/Gtk+ and Inti(a c++ framework sponsored by Red Hat, which uses Gtk+ as an underlying toolking, but wrappes it in an oo framework) Gtk+ is cool and Ruby is cool Both would be even cooler, if you can use them for all Gui work markus