From: Ben Tilly <ben_tilly@...>
Date: 2000-12-14T00:26:38+09:00
Subject: [ruby-talk:7153] Re: Ruby, Python, Eiffel and Smalltalk

ARIMA Yasuhiro <fit0298@fitec.co.jp> wrote:
>
>Hi,
>
>"Ben Tilly" <ben_tilly@hotmail.com> wrote
>   "[ruby-talk:7141] Re: Ruby, Python, Eiffel and Smalltalk"
>
>| Please be very careful in this kind of advocacy.  Overly
>| aggressive recruiting by Python people of Perl people is
>| one of the basic reasons that the two groups have so much
>| hostility today.  The first time it is OK.  After a while
>| it becomes annoying.  After the people you are dealing
>| with have seen what you are peddling and rejected it for
>| some specific reason, it becomes really annoying.
>
>Sorry.  Thanks for your advice.
>I am interesed in Perl, Python, Eiffel, Smalltalk and others, too.

I am not saying that you acted inappropriately, just to
be careful.  I am sensitive to this because I have been
on the receiving end of it from Python people enough to
become well and truly sick of it.

FWIW I have found at work that it is very effective
to always find good and bad things to say at the same time.
The key message is that you have a balanced view of the
world, and won't recommend something unless you think it
really is a good fit.  This avoids having people just tune
you out.  I don't know whether you know this already, I am
just saying it in case someone could use it.

Cheers,
Ben
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