From: tonys@... (tony summerfelt)
Date: 2000-12-19T12:10:01+09:00
Subject: [ruby-talk:7632] Re: Ruby in the US

my first post here :)

On Wed, 13 Dec 2000 13:47:42 +0900, Yukihiro Matsumoto wrote:

> The rationale is There's More Than One Way (or Language) To Do It.

this is one of the reasons i like perl. i was able to write useful perl
programs in perl after ten minutes working with it. and the fact that
learning just enough perl to be able to work with it is ok with larry wall
makes me feel pretty good. :)

right now i do most of my real work in perl...i learned tcl/tk so i could
have easy/quick access to a gui language...

i learned python, because i wanted to be able to program using an object
oriented way of doing things...but most of my learning has been without any
help from people on comp.lang.python. they were rude, insulting, and the
phrase 'there's only one way to do it' bothers me.

i looked at lua and passed on it (i didn't like the way it 'looked').

i looked at ruby a year ago or so and passed on that too...but just
a few days ago i starting grabbing versions of ruby for all the platforms i
work on. so far i really like the way ruby looks and adding it to my
programming toolbox will only have advantages...

i like the way ruby has taken bits of  perl and python. (perl certainly
used elements from a number of places)

i haven't written anything in ruby yet, but i've looked at a ton of code.
i'm just about to pick up 'programming ruby' and delve into it.

one thing that bothers me is the 'end' statement.

i'm going to find:

                 end
               end
             end
          end 
        end

annoying rather quickly...it would be nice to have the option of using a
closing curly bracket '}' or some other single symbol method to close a
block of code.


i'd REALLY like to do some gui programming in beos. but tk hasn't been
ported, and that holds up any possibility of a perl, python, or ruby/tk

i worked with rebol/view a little bit, but it takes a bit to wrap your mind
around the way rebol does things


ruby is in a unique position to be the first to have an easy oo gui system
for beos...

finally, one thing i'd like to see for ruby is a 'standalone' .exe for ruby
with enough useful modules compiled in.

i have one for perl, tcl, tk, and python. they're great for distributing
programs that can't be compiled or where you don't want to install the
full blown version of the language.

anyway, i'm just starting with ruby, i'll probably have a ton of questions
before i'm up to speed...