[#8446] Re: string like istringstream (was: A bug inruby) — Kevin Smith <sent@...>
jmichel@schur.institut.math.jussieu.fr wrote:
[#8465] A newbie question (about regexp) — "Robert Gustavsson" <robertg@...>
Hi!
[#8468] Re: speedup of anagram finder — "Ben Tilly" <ben_tilly@...>
gotoken@math.sci.hokudai.ac.jp (GOTO Kentaro) wrote:
On Tue, 2 Jan 2001, Ben Tilly wrote:
[#8478] popen on .rb file in 95 — "Chris Morris" <chrismo@...>
Apparently, Win95 does not support file associations from the command line.
[#8490] Translate daemon code to Windows? — "Chris Morris" <chrismo@...>
I'm trying to get httpd and rwiki to work on 95 and both have init code to
[#8508] Re: speedup of anagram finder — "SHULTZ,BARRY (HP-Israel,ex1)" <barry_shultz@...>
> go, either. The fact is, I've spent a lot of time the past couple days
[#8513] 1.6.2 on Dec Alpha — Hugh Sasse Staff Elec Eng <hgs@...>
And on a Dec Alpha system with gcc -v giving:
On Thu, 4 Jan 2001, Mathieu Bouchard wrote:
> > > And on a Dec Alpha system with gcc -v giving:
On Sun, 7 Jan 2001, Mathieu Bouchard wrote:
> > Here it is:
[#8527] Re: 1.6.2 on Solaris2.5.1 — ts <decoux@...>
>>>>> "H" == Hugh Sasse Staff Elec Eng <hgs@dmu.ac.uk> writes:
[#8565] optparse and rdtool — Hugh Sasse Staff Elec Eng <hgs@...>
Rebuilding stuff for 1.6.2, I see that RubyUnit says it's a good idea to
>...
[#8566] Visions for 2001/1.7.x development? — Robert Feldt <feldt@...>
Hi matz and other Ruby developers,
Hi,
On Fri, 5 Jan 2001, Yukihiro Matsumoto wrote:
[#8580] bug?? — jmichel@... (Jean Michel)
I don't understand the following behaviour:
On Thu, 4 Jan 2001, Jean Michel wrote:
In message "[ruby-talk:8580] bug??"
> A number of users was confused by these behavior, thus we have already
[#8599] Character classes in Ruby regexp — "Robert Gustavsson" <robertg@...>
Hi!
[#8633] Interesting Language performance comparisons - Ruby, OCAML etc — "g forever" <g24ever@...>
[#8651] Re: Interesting Language performance comparisons - Ruby, OCAML etc — "g forever" <g24ever@...>
Good observations.
[#8723] Re: Braces and begin/end — Kevin Smith <sent@...>
Robert Gustavsson wrote:
[#8745] (start..end) where start > end — "Robert Gustavsson" <0317025435@...>
Hi!
On Sun, 7 Jan 2001, Robert Gustavsson wrote:
[#8757] Backward Range implementation — Kevin Smith <sent@...>
Here's what I came up with that seems to work. I
[#8774] No :<, :>, etc. methods for Array — "Brian F. Feldman" <green@...>
So, why not include Comparable in Array by default? It shouldn't have any
Hi,
matz@zetabits.com (Yukihiro Matsumoto) wrote:
In message "[ruby-talk:8780] Re: No :<, :>, etc. methods for Array"
gotoken@math.sci.hokudai.ac.jp (GOTO Kentaro) wrote:
Hello --
David Alan Black <dblack@candle.superlink.net> wrote:
In message "[ruby-talk:8785] Re: No :<, :>, etc. methods for Array"
> -----Original Message-----
[#8808] Dynamic Flash movies from Ruby — Dave Thomas <Dave@...>
[#8829] Sandbox (again) — wys@... (Clemens Wyss)
Hi,
On 8 Jan, Clemens Wyss wrote:
[#8844] problems with mkmf.rb — DaVinci <bombadil@...>
Hi.
DaVinci <bombadil@wanadoo.es> wrote:
[#8908] Re: bug?? — Aleksi Niemel<aleksi.niemela@...>
matz said:
[#8931] String confusion — Anders Bengtsson <ndrsbngtssn@...>
Hello everyone,
Hi,
On Wed, 10 Jan 2001, Yukihiro Matsumoto wrote:
On Wed, 10 Jan 2001, Yukihiro Matsumoto wrote:
Hi,
On Wed, 10 Jan 2001, Yukihiro Matsumoto wrote:
[#8953] Please remove account from files — "Thomas Daniels" <westernporter@...>
Please take my e-mail address from your files and "CANCEL" my =
On Wed, 10 Jan 2001, Thomas Daniels wrote:
At Wed, 10 Jan 2001 14:23:30 +0900,
On Wed, 10 Jan 2001, Yasushi Shoji wrote:
[#8958] Re: Genetic Programming in Ruby — "Conrad Schneiker" <schneik@...>
Robert Feldt wrote:
[#8964] GULP (working title :-) related thoughts — David Alan Black <dblack@...>
Hello --
[#8971] Re: GULP (working title :-) related thoughts — "Conrad Schneiker" <schneik@...>
Dave Thomas wrote:
I don't know if 1.6.1 has a bug that's been fixed in 1.6.2 but I have used
[#8975] Re: Modules and mixins — Kevin Smith <sent@...>
Holden Glova wrote:
Kevin Smith <sent@qualitycode.com> writes:
[#8991] Why File::Stat? — "Hal E. Fulton" <hal9000@...>
I'm assuming that Stat is embedded inside File just
[#9008] using RUnit's setup and teardown methods — wlkleb@...
can someone show me how to use (or explain to me when i should use)
[#9035] Re: Regexp for matching Ruby reg exps? — "Ben Tilly" <ben_tilly@...>
Robert Feldt <feldt@ce.chalmers.se> wrote:
[#9047] Re: time to divide -talk? (was: Please remov e account from files) — Aleksi Niemel<aleksi.niemela@...>
Yasushi Shoji:
At Thu, 11 Jan 2001 00:20:45 +0900,
[#9063] Re: pid of executed program — ts <decoux@...>
>>>>> "L" == Laurence J Lane <ljlane@debian.org> writes:
[#9070] Re: time to divide -talk? — "Conrad Schneiker" <schneik@...>
David Alan Black wrote:
[#9106] Grabbing a char from the keyboard... — "Hal E. Fulton" <hal9000@...>
How does one accept a character from the keyboard
[#9120] ruby 1.6.2 and Debian 2.2 — Bostjan JERKO <Bostjan.Jerko@...>
Hi !
[#9159] Re: GULP (working title :-) related thoughts — "Conrad Schneiker" <schneik@...>
Dwight Tuinstra wrote:
[#9163] truncation of error strings — raja@... (Raja S.)
Is there any where to prevent the truncation of messages produced during
[#9179] "|" on front of aPortName — "Hal E. Fulton" <hal9000@...>
Hi guys...
[#9187] Re: Licensing issues — Kevin Smith <sent@...>
Robert Feldt wrote:
[#9195] Re: Redefining singleton methods — ts <decoux@...>
>>>>> "H" == Horst Duch=EAne?= <iso-8859-1> writes:
> From: ts [mailto:decoux@moulon.inra.fr]
[#9199] Class from name of class — Jim Menard <jimm@...>
I have a class name in a string, and I want to create an instance of that
[#9242] polymorphism — Maurice Szmurlo <maurice@...>
hello
Yukihiro Matsumoto <matz@zetabits.com> wrote:
[#9262] Rubicon now available via CVS — Dave Thomas <Dave@...>
[#9267] Re: polymorphism — chad fowler <chadfowler@...>
> >
"chad fowler" <chadfowler@yahoo.com> wrote in message
[#9279] Can ruby replace php? — Jim Freeze <jim@...>
When I read that ruby could be used to replace PHP I got really
> When I read that ruby could be used to replace PHP I got really
[#9368] Ruby 1.6.2 compilation problems on HP-UX 11 with gcc 2.95.2 with optimizations — "HOLOWKO,LARS (A-Germany,ex1)" <lars_holowko@...>
Trying to build Ruby like this
WATANABE Tetsuya <tetsu@jpn.hp.com> writes:
[#9395] Re: Do Vector and Matrix Classes Exist for Ruby? — "Conrad Schneiker" <schneik@...>
Gotoken wrote:
[#9411] The Ruby Way — "Conrad Schneiker" <schneiker@...>
As a member of the "Big 8" newsgroups, "The Ruby Way" (of posting) is to
Well, I have to say that I agree 100% with your previous post.
----- Original Message -----
----- Original Message -----
[#9427] Ruby CVS repositories are ready now — "Akinori MUSHA" <knu@...>
Hello,
[#9434] Re: 101 Misconceptions About Dynamic... — MICHAEL.W.WILSON@...
Subject:
[#9439] array.each_index_but_last ? — Hugh Sasse Staff Elec Eng <hgs@...>
What is the idiomatic Ruby way to go through all the elements of an array,
[#9462] Re: reading an entire file as a string — ts <decoux@...>
>>>>> "R" == Raja S <raja@cs.indiana.edu> writes:
ts <decoux@moulon.inra.fr> writes:
raja@cs.indiana.edu (Raja S.) writes:
Hi,
Mathieu Bouchard <matju@cam.org> writes:
> > File.open(path) {|f| f.read(*args) }
Hi,
[#9496] Re: Subprocess — Bostjan JERKO <Bostjan.Jerko@...>
Yeah and what if I want to run it on M$ ?
[#9521] Larry Wall INterview — ianm74@...
Larry was interviewed at the Perl/Ruby conference in Koyoto:
Larry Wall's interview is how I found out
>>>>> On Fri, 9 Feb 2001 00:40:02 +0900,
Does someone have a code snippet that they can point me to that allows
[#9598] Re: 101 Misconceptions About Dynamic Languages — "Christian" <christians@...>
I've really backed myself into a corner here. Witness my Houdini act.
[#9610] Re: 101 Misconceptions About Dynamic Languages — "Ben Tilly" <ben_tilly@...>
"Christian" <christians@syd.microforte.com.au> wrote:
[#9616] Re: 101 Misconceptions About Dynamic Languages — "Ben Tilly" <ben_tilly@...>
Peter Wood <peter.wood@worldonline.dk> wrote:
[#9619] Ruby mode for emacs — "R. Mark Volkmann" <volkmann2@...>
Is anyone successfully using Ruby mode for emacs under Windows 2000?
[#9682] Re: 101 Misconceptions About Dynamic Languages — "Ben Tilly" <ben_tilly@...>
"Christian" <christians@syd.microforte.com.au> wrote:
[#9709] Re: Ruby, FOX, and widely available C++ implementations (Was: Re: 101 Misconceptions About Dynamic Languages) — "Conrad Schneiker" <schneik@...>
Patrick Logan wrote:
[#9718] Can someone tell the the scoop on Mac ports — Dave Thomas <Dave@...>
[#9728] Re: Ruby vs. Python and Euphoria: sieve benc hmark — Aleksi Niemel<aleksi.niemela@...>
> Kenneth Rhodes writes:
[#9730] require loop — Ted Meng <ted_meng@...>
Hi,
[#9741] Re: Possible bug in Tempfile/Fork interaction — "Ben Tilly" <ben_tilly@...>
Martin G Dixon <mgdixon@ichips.intel.com> wrote:
[#9761] Re: 101 Misconceptions About Dynamic Languages — ts <decoux@...>
>>>>> "C" == Christoph Rippel <crippel@primenet.com> writes:
[#9781] Re: socket.rb? firewalls? — MICHAEL.W.WILSON@...
|--------+----------------------->
[#9792] Ruby 162 installer available — Dave Thomas <Dave@...>
[#9800] IOWA M.L. — Jilani Khaldi <jilanik@...>
Hi,
[#9824] Re: IOWA M.L. — chad fowler <chadfowler@...>
Avi Bryant <avi@beta4.com> writes:
[#9834] Problem with ruby-libglade 1.1 — schuerig@... (Michael Schuerig)
[#9843] The Ruby Programming Language — TAKAHASHI Masayoshi <maki@...>
Hi,
[#9847] Linux Expo Paris 1/31-2/2 — matz@... (Yukihiro Matsumoto)
Hi,
[#9904] Re: Learning Ruby — "Conrad Schneiker" <schneik@...>
Jim Freeze wrote:
[#9908] First quines in ruby? — "Conrad Schneiker" <schneik@...>
On Wed, 19 Jul 2000 Hal Fulton wrote:
[#9919] ANN: AspectR 0.2 — Robert Feldt <feldt@...>
Hi,
[#9930] a newbie ? — "Ralf" <Ralf.Jantschek@...>
Hello,
[#9949] Re: which ruby ...? — "Conrad Schneiker" <schneik@...>
Kent Dahl wrote:
[#9958] Re: Vim syntax files again. — "Conrad Schneiker" <schneik@...>
Hugh Sasse wrote:
On Sat, 27 Jan 2001, Conrad Schneiker wrote:
On Mon, 29 Jan 2001 19:36:49 +0900, Hugh Sasse Staff Elec Eng wrote:
On Mon, 29 Jan 2001, hipster wrote:
On Mon, 29 Jan 2001, Hugh Sasse Staff Elec Eng wrote:
[#9959] Dynamically instantiating a class (with a string) — ptkwt@...2.teleport.com (Phil Tomson)
I know I could (and probably should) do this with some kind of a factory
[#9975] line continuation — "David Ruby" <ruby_david@...>
can a ruby statement break into multiple lines?
On Sat, 27 Jan 2001, David Ruby wrote:
>A statement break into mutliple lines if it is not complete,
<ale@crimson.propagation.net> wrote:
On Sun, 28 Jan 2001, Brian F. Feldman wrote:
Hi --
[#9980] Ruby refs on Slashdot — "Conrad Schneiker" <schneiker@...>
FYI. See the original for much better formatting and to see the links.
Hello --
[#9986] system command on Windows(Arrgghhh!) — ptkwt@...2.teleport.com (Phil Tomson)
[#10010] Re: exercise training program in ruby — MICHAEL.W.WILSON@...
|--------+----------------------->
[#10050] Arity of methods without having instance? — Robert Feldt <feldt@...>
Hi,
[#10076] RECEIVED: Re: REQUEST TO REMOVE SEQUENC... — MICHAEL.W.WILSON@...
Subject:
[#10123] RSVP (Ruby SerVer Pages -sort of :-) — "Pe, Botp" <botp@...>
Hi ALL:
[#10128] Ruby for DOS — Dave Thomas <Dave@...>
[#10136] Array's undocumented features — Mathieu Bouchard <matju@...>
[#10141] ArrayMixin 0.2 — Mathieu Bouchard <matju@...>
[#10142] DateTime class for Ruby? — Michael Neumann <neumann@...>
Hi,
[#10153] Re: DateTime class for Ruby? — "Ben Tilly" <ben_tilly@...>
andy@toolshed.com (Andrew Hunt) wrote:
[ruby-talk:8801] Re: Modules and mixins
On 7 Jan, Holden Glova wrote: > Hello all, Hello you, :-) (...) > I have never had an exposure to anything like mixins throughout my > degree and sadly am feeling quite lost, which I'm sure will pass with > time and hopefully the patience of the list as I ask silly questions > about this topic. do not feel to sad! It is not such a big issue. What makes it a bit difficult to explain, however, is that due to Ruby's flexibility and power, the answer comes in three flavours, at least. You know, although Ruby is a real and complete OOL, it let *you* decide to use which paradigm to program in. It do not force you to use OOP at all. The three paradigms, Ruby supports and I want to mention, are: o Procedural programming In this paradigm you use classes as struct/record like datatype definition. Or you can use the class OpenStruct for this purpose instead. Modules, however, will be used to build ... ehrm ... just modules. ;-) Namespaces to group functions and data together. Much like in e.g. Modula 2, Oberon, Turbo Pascal's Units or even C++ namespaces. But modules, of course, can do much more ... o OOP (Class based) Here modules have additional sense. You can use them like in the procedural programming, explained above, but you can use them also to group functionalities together. These functionalities have not necessarily anything to do with any certain class. A good example is e.g. the module Enumerable. This module contains many functionalities (coded using methods) that describe tasks that could be applied to any container/stream or whatever like instance that can iterate thru its contained objects via method 'each'. You could see a module as the brother at the other end of the spectrum of class based OOP. Classes describes objects and the methods that could be applied on them. Modules describe functionalities that could be applied to *any* object, iff certain preconditions (e.g. existence of certain method(s)) are met. Or using another POV: A class group data, making the internal state of an object and some code that could be applied on *that* set of data, whereas a module group tasks (code) together that seeming to belong into same family but not necessarily depending on an object's internal state. In languages like C++ or even Python, there is no such concept like Ruby's modules. Here you have to mis-use (IMHO, of course) classes to group only functionalities and use them via multiple inheritance. Not worth the trouble IMO, as *true* multiple inheritance (A is_a B and A is_a C) is really seldom necessary! o Classless OO That paradigm is also called prototype based programming. Here you really didn't need classes to do anything in your program. While in 'classic' OO, you need to create a class to describe the objects (means instances) you want to create, in classless OO you simply build concrete, ready-to-use objects with desired structure and behavior. If you need more then one instantiation of such an object, you simply clone an already existing one and have two of them then. In Ruby you can also use modules here to build the concrete objects of prototype based system. By doing this, modules will therefore not only contain similar functionalities, unlike in the class based OO, but also data to reflect internal state of that special object. A further usage of modules in Ruby ... Of course, nobody will prevent you from mixing these all in your program ;-) > What I really don't understand is when do I use a module? How do I > know that I should have a class in this module that is to be > "extended" from in it's useage. What heuristics do you folks use? > What patterns do you follow that spark these design decisions? Reading my sermon above, you possibly may get some hints for what modules can be good for. Of course Ruby will not enforce you to chose one way over another one for your programming. All is anytime available. Use whatever you want to use. Ruby "(...)stays out of your way(...)" and features all your ideas! A further hint: please do not restrict yourself by using a classical approach! Try to find out what meets your needs and decide *then*. I have tried to show you only the beginning of the way, the rest you will have to find out for yourself on your journey; and all the fun is on that journey, indeed :-))) Perhaps tell us later, what you have found then, yes? :-) > Thanks in advance for any contributions to this topic. (...) > Signed, > Holden Glova HTH, \cle