[#8566] Visions for 2001/1.7.x development? — Robert Feldt <feldt@...>

Hi matz and other Ruby developers,

18 messages 2001/01/03
[#8645] Re: Visions for 2001/1.7.x development? — matz@... (Yukihiro Matsumoto) 2001/01/04

Hi,

[#8580] bug?? — jmichel@... (Jean Michel)

I don't understand the following behaviour:

19 messages 2001/01/03

[#8633] Interesting Language performance comparisons - Ruby, OCAML etc — "g forever" <g24ever@...>

13 messages 2001/01/04

[#8774] No :<, :>, etc. methods for Array — "Brian F. Feldman" <green@...>

So, why not include Comparable in Array by default? It shouldn't have any

28 messages 2001/01/07
[#8779] Re: No :<, :>, etc. methods for Array — matz@... (Yukihiro Matsumoto) 2001/01/07

Hi,

[#8780] Re: No :<, :>, etc. methods for Array — "Brian F. Feldman" <green@...> 2001/01/07

matz@zetabits.com (Yukihiro Matsumoto) wrote:

[#8781] Re: No :<, :>, etc. methods for Array — gotoken@... (GOTO Kentaro) 2001/01/07

In message "[ruby-talk:8780] Re: No :<, :>, etc. methods for Array"

[#8782] Re: No :<, :>, etc. methods for Array — "Brian F. Feldman" <green@...> 2001/01/07

gotoken@math.sci.hokudai.ac.jp (GOTO Kentaro) wrote:

[#8829] Sandbox (again) — wys@... (Clemens Wyss)

Hi,

20 messages 2001/01/08
[#8864] Re: Sandbox (again) — Clemens Hintze <c.hintze@...> 2001/01/08

On 8 Jan, Clemens Wyss wrote:

[#8931] String confusion — Anders Bengtsson <ndrsbngtssn@...>

Hello everyone,

21 messages 2001/01/09
[#8937] Re: String confusion — matz@... (Yukihiro Matsumoto) 2001/01/09

Hi,

[#8953] Please remove account from files — "Thomas Daniels" <westernporter@...>

Please take my e-mail address from your files and "CANCEL" my subscription to "Ruby-Talk". Ruby is not right for what I do. The "Bulk Mail" is overwhelming. Please, no more e-mail! Thank you! yours truly, Stan Daniels

14 messages 2001/01/09
[#8983] Re: Please remove account from files — John Rubinubi <rubinubi@...> 2001/01/10

On Wed, 10 Jan 2001, Thomas Daniels wrote:

[#9020] time to divide -talk? (was: Please remove account from files) — Yasushi Shoji <yashi@...> 2001/01/10

At Wed, 10 Jan 2001 14:23:30 +0900,

[#9047] Re: time to divide -talk? (was: Please remov e account from files) — Aleksi Niemel<aleksi.niemela@...>

Yasushi Shoji:

27 messages 2001/01/10
[#9049] Re: time to divide -talk? — Yasushi Shoji <yashi@...> 2001/01/10

At Thu, 11 Jan 2001 00:20:45 +0900,

[#9153] what about this begin? — Anders Strandl Elkj誡 <ase@...> 2001/01/11

[#9195] Re: Redefining singleton methods — ts <decoux@...>

>>>>> "H" == Horst Duch=EAne?= <iso-8859-1> writes:

10 messages 2001/01/12

[#9242] polymorphism — Maurice Szmurlo <maurice@...>

hello

73 messages 2001/01/13

[#9279] Can ruby replace php? — Jim Freeze <jim@...>

When I read that ruby could be used to replace PHP I got really

15 messages 2001/01/14

[#9411] The Ruby Way — "Conrad Schneiker" <schneiker@...>

As a member of the "Big 8" newsgroups, "The Ruby Way" (of posting) is to

15 messages 2001/01/17

[#9462] Re: reading an entire file as a string — ts <decoux@...>

>>>>> "R" == Raja S <raja@cs.indiana.edu> writes:

35 messages 2001/01/17
[#9465] Re: reading an entire file as a string — Dave Thomas <Dave@...> 2001/01/17

raja@cs.indiana.edu (Raja S.) writes:

[#9521] Larry Wall INterview — ianm74@...

Larry was interviewed at the Perl/Ruby conference in Koyoto:

20 messages 2001/01/18
[#10583] Re: Larry Wall INterview — "greg strockbine" <gstrock@...> 2001/02/08

Larry Wall's interview is how I found out

[#9610] Re: 101 Misconceptions About Dynamic Languages — "Ben Tilly" <ben_tilly@...>

"Christian" <christians@syd.microforte.com.au> wrote:

13 messages 2001/01/20

[#9761] Re: 101 Misconceptions About Dynamic Languages — ts <decoux@...>

>>>>> "C" == Christoph Rippel <crippel@primenet.com> writes:

16 messages 2001/01/23

[#9792] Ruby 162 installer available — Dave Thomas <Dave@...>

15 messages 2001/01/24

[#9958] Re: Vim syntax files again. — "Conrad Schneiker" <schneik@...>

Hugh Sasse wrote:

14 messages 2001/01/26
[#10065] Re: Vim syntax files again. — Hugh Sasse Staff Elec Eng <hgs@...> 2001/01/29

On Sat, 27 Jan 2001, Conrad Schneiker wrote:

[#9975] line continuation — "David Ruby" <ruby_david@...>

can a ruby statement break into multiple lines?

18 messages 2001/01/27
[#9976] Re: line continuation — Michael Neumann <neumann@...> 2001/01/27

On Sat, 27 Jan 2001, David Ruby wrote:

[#9988] Re: line continuation — harryo@... (Harry Ohlsen) 2001/01/28

>A statement break into mutliple lines if it is not complete,

[ruby-talk:8534] Re: design question

From: "Franz GEIGER" <fgeiger@...>
Date: 2001-01-02 19:40:02 UTC
List: ruby-talk #8534
What about private inheritance in this situation? Wouldn't it save a lot of
work AND enable me to hide the methods I don't like to expose to the public?

Regards
Franz GEIGER

"Kevin Smith" <sent@qualitycode.com> wrote in message
news:0G6H0012WVQMJY@mta5.snfc21.pbi.net...
> chad fowler wrote:
> >In the Java world, I tend to encapsulate Java's
> >supplied libraries/types by composing things like
> >collections inside my own domain objects.  So, for
> >example, to create a collection ("People") or "Person"
> >objects, I would create a "People" class with a
> >limited interface that delegated any requests for
> >members of the list to an internal representation
> >which I could vary at a later time (like an ArrayList
> >or something like that).
> >
> >The problems I'm trying to solve by doing that in Java
> >are: 1) I don't want to expose an explicit type which
> >is not under my control as part of an externally
> >visible interface, 2) I want to be able to vary the
> >internal representation at any time, 3) I want to take
> >care of type casting--mine is a colleciton of
> >"Person"s, not "Object"s 4) I want my intent to be as
> >clear as possible (users of my classes won't have to
> >think "What is this array for?").
> >
> >So, my question is:  What are the recommended
> >practices in Ruby?  Do folks generally inherit the
> >supplied Ruby classes or do they try to use delegation
> >in the same way I've outlined above?  It seems that a
> >lot of my reasons for using composition/delegation are
> >somewhat irrelevant in Ruby, but it still feels really
> >weird to extend an Array to create a domain-specific
> >list.
>
> I've only been working in Ruby for a couple
> months, and my background is in C++ rather than
> Java. But I think I understand your question.
> Basically, you're asking whether in Ruby you
> would tend to have People inherit from Array or
> contain an Array member.
>
> In my mind, the issue is whether you want to
> expose *all* of the Array members as the
> interface, or to create your own limited or
> different interface. Do you want client code to
> be able to sort your people at any time, for
> example. Are you concerned that client code might
> stuff a car into your list of people?
>
> If you want control over the interface, then you
> would want to contain (aka delegate)*, not
> inherit. That's as true in Ruby as it is in Java
> or C++. Thus, I would tend to delegate when
> creating a specific class like People, but would
> inherit when creating a generic improvement on a
> built-in class, like "StreamableHash".
>
> * = Note that my use of the word "delegate" here
> is not related to the 'delegate' module that
> ships with Ruby.
>
> Kevin


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