[#60304] FreeRIDE hangs when I use gets — sothoth@... (Yog-Sothoth)

Hi there, and happy new year!

23 messages 2003/01/01
[#60305] Ruby DBI — David King Landrith <dave@...> 2003/01/01

Is there any way to retrieve the table and database associated with

[#60306] Re: Ruby DBI — Tom Sawyer <transami@...> 2003/01/01

On Wednesday 01 January 2003 07:03 am, David King Landrith wrote:

[#60309] Re: Ruby DBI — David Landrith <dlandrith@...> 2003/01/01

On Wednesday, January 1, 2003, at 09:20 AM, Tom Sawyer wrote:

[#60378] Interfaces in Ruby — "Robert" <bob.news@...>

15 messages 2003/01/02

[#60541] testunit 0.1.6 problems — Daniel Berger <djberg96@...>

ruby 1.6.7, 1.6.8, 1.7.3

39 messages 2003/01/04
[#60556] Re: testunit 0.1.6 problems — <nathaniel@...> 2003/01/04

Daniel Berger [mailto:djberg96@yahoo.com] wrote:

[#60579] Re: testunit 0.1.6 problems — Gavin Sinclair <gsinclair@...> 2003/01/04

On Sunday, January 5, 2003, 2:46:04 AM, nathaniel wrote:

[#60914] Re: Test::Unit fails w/no tests [was: testunit 0.1.6 problems] — <nathaniel@...> 2003/01/08

Gavin Sinclair [mailto:gsinclair@soyabean.com.au] wrote:

[#60947] Re: Test::Unit fails w/no tests [was: testunit 0.1.6 problems] — Gavin Sinclair <gsinclair@...> 2003/01/09

On Thursday, January 9, 2003, 6:56:44 AM, nathaniel wrote:

[#60959] Re: Test::Unit fails w/no tests [was: testunit 0.1.6 problems] — "Mike Campbell" <michael_s_campbell@...> 2003/01/09

> In my mind, there's nothing whatsoever wrong with an empty unit test.

[#60604] Forward: Drafting a "The Year in Scripting Languages" — matz@... (Yukihiro Matsumoto)

Hello,

21 messages 2003/01/05
[#60652] Re: Forward: Drafting a "The Year in Scripting Languages" — ptkwt@...1.aracnet.com (Phil Tomson) 2003/01/06

I noticed several replies which said that they could not do this - I

[#60620] bad interpreter — Arnaudo Massimo <marnaudo@...>

Hi everibody,

31 messages 2003/01/05
[#60985] Re: bad interpreter — mkcon@... (Martin Kahlert) 2003/01/09

In article <20030105144216.GA2879@gull.zena.it>,

[#61045] Re: bad interpreter — Arnaudo Massimo <marnaudo@...> 2003/01/09

* Martin Kahlert <mkcon@gmx.de> [gioved09 gennaio 2003, alle 16:36]:

[#61046] Re: bad interpreter — dblack@... 2003/01/09

Hi --

[#61052] Re: bad interpreter — Stoyan Zhekov <zhware@...> 2003/01/09

> > masarn1@gull:~/Ruby$ ./test.rb 2> error.log

[#61183] Re: bad interpreter — Arnaudo Massimo <marnaudo@...> 2003/01/11

* Stoyan Zhekov <zhware@hotpop.com> [venerd10 gennaio 2003, alle 08:55]:

[#60636] Compile time constant folding? — Dan Sugalski <dan@...>

Here's a quick question, now that parrot's close to getting object

19 messages 2003/01/05

[#60650] attr_cast, one a small step for interface techniques — Tom Sawyer <transami@...>

another addition to tomslib/rubylib:

16 messages 2003/01/06
[#60657] Re: attr_cast, one a small step for interface techniques — Jim Freeze <jim@...> 2003/01/06

On Monday, 6 January 2003 at 10:30:54 +0900, Tom Sawyer wrote:

[#60665] Re: attr_cast, one a small step for interface techniques — Gavin Sinclair <gsinclair@...> 2003/01/06

On Monday, January 6, 2003, 1:20:06 PM, Jim wrote:

[#60691] Re: attr_cast, one a small step for interface techniques — Tom Sawyer <transami@...> 2003/01/06

On Sunday 05 January 2003 09:30 pm, Gavin Sinclair wrote:

[#60702] Re: attr_cast, one a small step for interface techniques — Gavin Sinclair <gsinclair@...> 2003/01/06

On Monday, January 6, 2003, 7:48:18 PM, Tom wrote:

[#60766] Re: A very humour game — Gavin Sinclair <gsinclair@...>

Should a rule be set up that disallows messages (or attachments) of

13 messages 2003/01/07

[#60786] Re: attachment:ot -was RE: A very humour game — "Pe, Botp" <botp@...>

12 messages 2003/01/07

[#60877] Can you detect if a method takes a block argument? — Martin Hart <martin@...>

Hi all, hope everybody had a great new year - it is snowing outside for

16 messages 2003/01/08

[#60910] Ruby advocacy in sigs — Brennan Leathers <digibren@...>

I've started using the following as a sig on leoville.com, a very large

51 messages 2003/01/08
[#61644] Re: Ruby advocacy in sigs — "Gennady" <gfb@...> 2003/01/15

>

[#61645] Re: Ruby advocacy in sigs — Daniel Carrera <dcarrera@...> 2003/01/15

On Thu, 16 Jan 2003, Gennady wrote:

[#61662] Re: Ruby advocacy in sigs — "Park Heesob" <phasis@...> 2003/01/16

Hi,

[#61664] Re: Ruby advocacy in sigs — dblack@... 2003/01/16

Hi --

[#61667] Re: Ruby advocacy in sigs — "Hal E. Fulton" <hal9000@...> 2003/01/16

----- Original Message -----

[#61678] Re: Ruby advocacy in sigs — Tom Sawyer <transami@...> 2003/01/16

"More powerful than Perl, more object-oriented than Python."

[#61684] Re: Ruby advocacy in sigs — Hugh Sasse Staff Elec Eng <hgs@...> 2003/01/16

On Thu, 16 Jan 2003, Tom Sawyer wrote:

[#60926] The Year in Scripting Languages (Final Draft) — Lyle Johnson <lyle@...>

All,

44 messages 2003/01/08
[#60928] Re: The Year in Scripting Languages (Final Draft) — Tom Sawyer <transami@...> 2003/01/08

so who are we?

[#60943] Rubyists (Re: The Year in Scripting Languages (Final Draft)) — matz@... (Yukihiro Matsumoto) 2003/01/09

Hi,

[#60965] Re: Rubyists (Re: The Year in Scripting Languages (Final Draft)) — Jim Freeze <jim@...> 2003/01/09

On Thursday, 9 January 2003 at 9:18:00 +0900, Yukihiro Matsumoto wrote:

[#60944] OT: apple x11 — Brennan Leathers <digibren@...>

just in case anyone missed the word on the wire, apple has released its

24 messages 2003/01/09

[#61002] @@'s are not inherited? — Tom Sawyer <transami@...>

please correct me if i'm wrong but i beleive i just discovered something i did

12 messages 2003/01/09

[#61098] Using Observer pattern in client/server architecture - how? — Martin Hart <martin@...>

Hi everyone,

10 messages 2003/01/10

[#61144] Why Fox — Daniel Carrera <dcarrera@...>

Could someone explain to me why Ruby is adopting Fox as its standard GUI?

24 messages 2003/01/10

[#61167] 'require' search path — Tim Bates <tim@...>

I wish 'require' would count the current directory as the directory the file

16 messages 2003/01/11

[#61220] Ruby: politics & performance [long] — Louis Krupp <lkrupp@...>

The problem: Read a structured file (the details are irrelevant)

26 messages 2003/01/11

[#61271] sorting with the Swartzian transform — Daniel Carrera <dcarrera@...>

Hello all,

14 messages 2003/01/12

[#61349] OT: IE blatantly defiant of HTML standards — Tom Sawyer <transami@...>

33 messages 2003/01/13
[#62019] Re: OT: IE blatantly defiant of HTML standards — Eric Hodel <drbrain@...7.net> 2003/01/19

Tom Sawyer (transami@transami.net) wrote:

[#62046] Re: OT: IE blatantly defiant of HTML standards — Dmitri Colebatch <dim@...> 2003/01/20

> Tom Sawyer (transami@transami.net) wrote:

[#62048] Re: OT: IE blatantly defiant of HTML standards — Tom Sawyer <transami@...> 2003/01/20

On Sunday 19 January 2003 08:21 pm, Dmitri Colebatch wrote:

[#62049] Re: OT: IE blatantly defiant of HTML standards — Dmitri Colebatch <dim@...> 2003/01/20

Tom Sawyer wrote:

[#62060] Re: persistence (was: IE blatantly defiant of HTML standards) — Anders Bengtsson <ndrsbngtssn@...> 2003/01/20

--- Dmitri Colebatch <dim@colebatch.com> wrote:

[#62122] Re: persistence (was: IE blatantly defiant of HTML standards) — Tom Sawyer <transami@...> 2003/01/21

On Monday 20 January 2003 04:58 am, Anders Bengtsson wrote:

[#61351] UML tool for Linux? — Tim Bates <tim@...>

Does anyone know of a good OO modelling (UML?) tool for Linux, that works well

23 messages 2003/01/13

[#61435] Yet Another Test First Example ... in Ruby — Jim Weirich <jweirich@...>

Our local XP group did a Test-Driven Design clinic. Although most of

13 messages 2003/01/14

[#61497] ruby-dev summary 19198-19345 — Kazuo Saito <ksaito@...>

49 messages 2003/01/14
[#61499] Re: ruby-dev summary 19198-19345 — Paul Brannan <pbrannan@...> 2003/01/14

On Wed, Jan 15, 2003 at 02:31:22AM +0900, Kazuo Saito wrote:

[#61534] Re: ruby-dev summary 19198-19345 — Matt Armstrong <matt@...> 2003/01/14

Paul Brannan <pbrannan@atdesk.com> writes:

[#61565] Re: ruby-dev summary 19198-19345 — matz@... (Yukihiro Matsumoto) 2003/01/15

Hi,

[#61566] Re: ruby-dev summary 19198-19345 — Matt Armstrong <matt@...> 2003/01/15

matz@ruby-lang.org (Yukihiro Matsumoto) writes:

[#61571] Re: ruby-dev summary 19198-19345 — Gavin Sinclair <gsinclair@...> 2003/01/15

On Wednesday, January 15, 2003, 3:17:11 PM, Matt wrote:

[#61574] Re: ruby-dev summary 19198-19345 — matz@... (Yukihiro Matsumoto) 2003/01/15

Hi,

[#61512] Re: ruby-dev summary 19198-19345 — Tom Sawyer <transami@...> 2003/01/14

On Tuesday 14 January 2003 10:31 am, Kazuo Saito wrote:

[#61665] Re: ruby-dev summary 19198-19345 — Tom Sawyer <transami@...> 2003/01/16

On Tuesday 14 January 2003 12:40 pm, Tom Sawyer wrote:

[#61653] Quick question for Japanese speaker — "Hal E. Fulton" <hal9000@...>

I've created a graphic based on the Kanji

12 messages 2003/01/15

[#61682] Re: ruby-dev summary 19198-19345 — "Pe, Botp" <botp@...>

13 messages 2003/01/16

[#61749] Linux Editor — dwerder@... (Dominik Werder)

What's your favorite ruby editor on linux?

22 messages 2003/01/16

[#61757] quick: it responds, it evaluates, and is not empty — Tom Sawyer <transami@...>

quick quest: anyone know of a nice slick short and sweet way to do this:

38 messages 2003/01/17
[#61797] Re: quick: it responds, it evaluates, and is not empty — "Bulat Ziganshin" <bulatz@...> 2003/01/17

Hello Tom,

[#61842] Re: quick: it responds, it evaluates, and is not empty — Tom Sawyer <transami@...> 2003/01/17

On Thursday 16 January 2003 11:25 pm, Bulat Ziganshin wrote:

[#61846] Re: quick: it responds, it evaluates, and is not empty — "Bulat Ziganshin" <bulatz@...> 2003/01/17

Hello Tom,

[#61848] Re: quick: it responds, it evaluates, and is not empty — Tom Sawyer <transami@...> 2003/01/17

On Friday 17 January 2003 07:08 am, Bulat Ziganshin wrote:

[#61854] Re: quick: it responds, it evaluates, and is not empty — Gavin Sinclair <gsinclair@...> 2003/01/17

On Saturday, January 18, 2003, 1:22:09 AM, Tom wrote:

[#61855] Re: quick: it responds, it evaluates, and is not empty — dblack@... 2003/01/17

Hi --

[#61864] Re: quick: it responds, it evaluates, and is not empty — ahoward <ahoward@...> 2003/01/17

On Fri, 17 Jan 2003 dblack@candle.superlink.net wrote:

[#61872] Re: quick: it responds, it evaluates, and is not empty — dblack@... 2003/01/17

Hi --

[#61896] Re: quick: it responds, it evaluates, and is not empty — ahoward <ahoward@...> 2003/01/17

On Sat, 18 Jan 2003 dblack@candle.superlink.net wrote:

[#61759] most popular unix scripting language — dorli@... (dambalaMaster)

does anyone know which is the most popular unix scripting language?

26 messages 2003/01/17

[#61810] Automating Perl -> Ruby translation? — "Hal E. Fulton" <hal9000@...>

Has anyone given any thought to this

22 messages 2003/01/17
[#61875] Re: Automating Perl -> Ruby translation? — ptkwt@...1.aracnet.com (Phil Tomson) 2003/01/17

In article <034a01c2be07$95670380$0300a8c0@austin.rr.com>,

[#61901] Resolution to CGI API problem? — Travis Whitton <whitton@...>

There is a very long thread [ruby-talk:39898] that talks about changes

11 messages 2003/01/17

[#61965] PickAxe index? — Daniel Carrera <dcarrera@...>

Does PickAxe online have an index?

14 messages 2003/01/18

[#62063] a single class that supports multiple facets/interfaces — David Garamond <davegaramond@...>

i want to have a class that can support multiple sets of methods, based

16 messages 2003/01/20
[#62090] Re: a single class that supports multiple facets/interfaces — dblack@... 2003/01/20

Hi --

[#62268] extend (Re: a single class that supports multiple facets/interfaces) — David Garamond <davegaramond@...> 2003/01/22

dblack@candle.superlink.net wrote:

[#62093] Local variable scope — Daniel Carrera <dcarrera@...>

I'm a bit confused by the scope of local variables.

24 messages 2003/01/20

[#62203] accessors for module instance vars — ptkwt@...1.aracnet.com (Phil Tomson)

I've got a module that that has several classes defined within it. These

17 messages 2003/01/21
[#62250] Re: accessors for module instance vars — ptkwt@...1.aracnet.com (Phil Tomson) 2003/01/22

In article <Pine.LNX.4.33.0301212020500.6373-100000@eli.fsl.noaa.gov>,

[#62213] Newbie Q: do i need PStore for this or something else ? — "Vandemoortele Simon" <delirious_nospamplz@...>

_Background info:_

17 messages 2003/01/21

[#62319] Re: exit status, stderr and stdout — "Berger, Daniel" <djberge@...>

> -----Original Message-----

14 messages 2003/01/22

[#62321] Definition: iterator — Daniel Carrera <dcarrera@...>

I sort of know what an iterator is, but not well enough to explain it.

18 messages 2003/01/22

[#62340] mod_ruby: what's persistent and what's shared? — Tom Sawyer <transami@...>

i'm tired of being confused about this and i'm hoping someone can clear this

21 messages 2003/01/23

[#62344] Can we attack the 'not enough libraries' thing straight on? — dblack@...

Hi --

136 messages 2003/01/23
[#62349] Re: Can we attack the 'not enough libraries' thing straight on? — Simon Cozens <simon@...> 2003/01/23

dblack@candle.superlink.net writes:

[#62358] Re: Can we attack the 'not enough libraries' thing straight on? — dblack@... 2003/01/23

Hi --

[#62645] Re: Can we attack the 'not enough libraries' thing straight on? — "MikkelFJ" <mikkelfj-anti-spam@...> 2003/01/25

[#62648] Re: Can we attack the 'not enough libraries' thing straight on? — ahoward <ahoward@...> 2003/01/25

On Sat, 25 Jan 2003, MikkelFJ wrote:

[#62658] Re: Can we attack the 'not enough libraries' thing straight on? — Mark Wilson <mwilson13@...> 2003/01/25

The following is my initial, and not yet complete, proposal on

[#62696] Re: Can we attack the 'not enough libraries' thing straight on? — "Iain 'Spoon' Truskett" <spoon@...> 2003/01/26

* Mark Wilson (mwilson13@cox.net) [26 Jan 2003 09:44]:

[#62699] Re: Can we attack the 'not enough libraries' thing straight on? — Mark Wilson <mwilson13@...> 2003/01/26

[#62705] Re: Can we attack the 'not enough libraries' thing straight on? — "Iain 'Spoon' Truskett" <spoon@...> 2003/01/26

* Mark Wilson (mwilson13@cox.net) [26 Jan 2003 17:26]:

[#62725] Re: Can we attack the 'not enough libraries' thing straight on? — Dave Thomas <dave@...> 2003/01/26

Iain 'Spoon' Truskett wrote:

[#62733] Re: Can we attack the 'not enough libraries' thing straight on? — ahoward <ahoward@...> 2003/01/26

On Sun, 26 Jan 2003, Dave Thomas wrote:

[#62731] Re: Can we attack the 'not enough libraries' thing straight on? — "Mike Campbell" <michael_s_campbell@...> 2003/01/26

[#62738] Re: Can we attack the 'not enough libraries' thing straight on? — Dave Thomas <dave@...> 2003/01/26

Mike Campbell wrote:

[#62750] Re: Can we attack the 'not enough libraries' thing straight on? — Daniel Carrera <dcarrera@...> 2003/01/26

I certainly think that RAA should have a search feature.

[#62808] Re: Can we attack the 'not enough libraries' thing straight on? — "NAKAMURA, Hiroshi" <nahi@...> 2003/01/27

Hi, all,

[#62369] Re: Can we attack the 'not enough libraries' thing straight on? — Simon Cozens <simon@...> 2003/01/23

Daniel Carrera <dcarrera@math.umd.edu> writes:

[#62373] Re: Can we attack the 'not enough libraries' thing straight on? — dblack@... 2003/01/23

Hi --

[#62381] Re: Can we attack the 'not enough libraries' thing straight on? — Tom Sawyer <transami@...> 2003/01/23

want to here a crazy idea?

[#62545] Re: Can we attack the 'not enough libraries' thing straight on? — Warren Brian Noronha <warren@...> 2003/01/24

dear devels

[#62345] Hash#+ ? — Daniel Carrera <dcarrera@...>

I think that there should be a Hash#+ method, aking to Array#+.

22 messages 2003/01/23
[#62347] Re: Hash#+ ? — dblack@... 2003/01/23

Hi --

[#62350] Re: Hash#+ ? — Tom Sawyer <transami@...> 2003/01/23

On Wednesday 22 January 2003 06:52 pm, dblack@candle.superlink.net wrote:

[#62351] Re: Hash#+ ? — Daniel Carrera <dcarrera@...> 2003/01/23

On Thu, Jan 23, 2003 at 11:14:08AM +0900, Tom Sawyer wrote:

[#62376] Re: Hash#+ ? — Tom Sawyer <transami@...> 2003/01/23

On Wednesday 22 January 2003 07:20 pm, Daniel Carrera wrote:

[#62378] Re: Hash#+ ? — matz@... (Yukihiro Matsumoto) 2003/01/23

Hi,

[#62383] Missing libraries?? — "Hal E. Fulton" <hal9000@...>

I'm starting a new thread to get away from

22 messages 2003/01/23

[#62665] RAA proposal — Daniel Carrera <dcarrera@...>

Hello all,

20 messages 2003/01/26
[#62667] Re: RAA proposal — Jim Freeze <jim@...> 2003/01/26

On Sunday, 26 January 2003 at 10:48:02 +0900, Daniel Carrera wrote:

[#62669] Re: RAA proposal — Daniel Carrera <dcarrera@...> 2003/01/26

On Sun, Jan 26, 2003 at 10:57:28AM +0900, Jim Freeze wrote:

[#62708] solaris porting problem -- flock failure? — Joel VanderWerf <vjoel@...>

Any solaris gurus out there?

27 messages 2003/01/26

[#62730] cascading configuration variables — Wilbert Berendsen <wilbert@...>

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13 messages 2003/01/26

[#62767] common regular expressions — Michael Garriss <mgarriss@...>

Sorry if this a stupid question but I am new to ruby AND regular

17 messages 2003/01/26

[#62836] Test::Unit -> order of tests? — Mauricio Fern疣dez <batsman.geo@...>

28 messages 2003/01/27
[#62845] Re: Test::Unit -> order of tests? — Michael Garriss <mgarriss@...> 2003/01/27

IMHO, it would be nice if they were run in the order they were defined.

[#62852] Re: Test::Unit -> order of tests? — ahoward <ahoward@...> 2003/01/27

On Tue, 28 Jan 2003, Michael Garriss wrote:

[#62855] Re: Test::Unit -> order of tests? — Chad Fowler <chad@...> 2003/01/27

[#62861] Re: Test::Unit -> order of tests? — ahoward <ahoward@...> 2003/01/27

On Tue, 28 Jan 2003, Chad Fowler wrote:

[#62867] Re: Test::Unit -> order of tests? — Matt Armstrong <matt@...> 2003/01/27

ahoward <ahoward@fsl.noaa.gov> writes:

[#62899] Re: Test::Unit -> order of tests? — "Warren Brown" <wkb@...> 2003/01/28

> To implement this, I would suggest renaming all your test_XXX methods

[#62847] tkgnuplot problem: fork() on win — Ralf <lausianne@...>

Hi,

17 messages 2003/01/27
[#62936] Re: tkgnuplot problem: fork() on win (popen3 for windows?) — ptkwt@...1.aracnet.com (Phil Tomson) 2003/01/28

In article <20030128122113W.nagai@ai.kyutech.ac.jp>,

[#62890] ruby-dev summary 19380-19436 — TAKAHASHI Masayoshi <maki@...>

Hello all,

14 messages 2003/01/27

[#63065] Local variables & blocks — ahoward <ahoward@...>

108 messages 2003/01/29
[#63203] Re: Local variables & blocks — Martin DeMello <martindemello@...> 2003/01/30

ahoward <ahoward@fsl.noaa.gov> wrote:

[#63211] Re: Local variables & blocks — ahoward <ahoward@...> 2003/01/30

On Thu, 30 Jan 2003, Martin DeMello wrote:

[#63558] Re: Local variables & blocks — "Robert Klemme" <bob.news@...> 2003/02/03

[#63560] Re: Local variables & blocks — matz@... (Yukihiro Matsumoto) 2003/02/03

Hi,

[#63072] Re: Local variables & blocks — Gavin Sinclair <gsinclair@...> 2003/01/29

On Wednesday, January 29, 2003, 5:04:51 PM, ahoward wrote:

[#63075] Re: Local variables & blocks — Gavin Sinclair <gsinclair@...> 2003/01/29

On Wednesday, January 29, 2003, 6:17:44 PM, Gavin wrote:

[#63087] Re: Local variables & blocks — Mauricio Fern疣dez <batsman.geo@...> 2003/01/29

On Wed, Jan 29, 2003 at 04:40:21PM +0900, Gavin Sinclair wrote:

[#63100] Re: Local variables & blocks — matz@... (Yukihiro Matsumoto) 2003/01/29

Hi,

[#63103] Re: Local variables & blocks — ahoward <ahoward@...> 2003/01/29

On Thu, 30 Jan 2003, Yukihiro Matsumoto wrote:

[#63119] Re: Local variables & blocks — matz@... (Yukihiro Matsumoto) 2003/01/29

Hi,

[#63094] Ruby Books -- A Question — Mark Probert <probertm@..._acm.org>

Rubyists,

15 messages 2003/01/29

[#63198] reading past a file header — Martin DeMello <martindemello@...>

Looking for a more idiomatic way to do this:

12 messages 2003/01/30

[#63216] Newbie question — n.vasiliev@... (Nicolay Vasiliev)

Hello!

17 messages 2003/01/30

[#63284] Return values from assertions — <nathaniel@...>

Eivind Eklund and I have been discussing whether assertions ought to

12 messages 2003/01/31

[#63305] %L, %l revisited — Tom Sawyer <transami@...>

this is a general request for opinion/support. i, for one, would very much

40 messages 2003/01/31
[#63556] Re: %L, %l revisited — nobu.nokada@... 2003/02/03

Hi,

[#63566] Re: %L, %l revisited — Tom Sawyer <transami@...> 2003/02/03

On Monday 03 February 2003 01:26 am, nobu.nokada@softhome.net wrote:

[#63592] Re: %L, %l revisited — nobu.nokada@... 2003/02/03

Hi,

[#63773] Re: %L, %l revisited — Tom Sawyer <transami@...> 2003/02/05

Nobu,

[#63777] Re: %L, %l revisited — dblack@... 2003/02/05

Hi --

[#63784] Re: %L, %l revisited — "Hal E. Fulton" <hal9000@...> 2003/02/05

----- Original Message -----

[#63799] Re: %L, %l revisited — Tom Sawyer <transami@...> 2003/02/05

On Wednesday 05 February 2003 02:44 pm, Hal E. Fulton wrote:

Re: Forward: Drafting a "The Year in Scripting Languages"

From: Brennan Leathers <digibren@...>
Date: 2003-01-06 05:40:56 UTC
List: ruby-talk #60669
this is a good start, but as you point out someone that has tracked 
ruby language changes over the year should make a summary of the 
language feature changes. also a summary of the main features of the 
language, and preferably not a rehash of something thats been said 
before (ie in Ruby book introductions).

also, I'm not sure a Perl to Ruby section is warranted, after all it is 
not supposed to be a competitive article. I like how you changed the 
language regarding perl and php from phil's section, that works fine.

again, good draft, this makes me personally at least feel a lot better 
that ruby community will send something good to the big article.

digibren

On Monday, January 6, 2003, at 12:25  AM, Mark Wilson wrote:

> The following is my contribution to this project.  I think I have 
> exhausted my capacity to add additional content without doing further 
> research.  I will happily continue to help however I can and can also 
> contribute to editing and to adding links where needed.  Feel free to 
> edit, rearrange, use, not use, etc.
>
> Ruby.year(2002)
>
> A report by the Ruby community
>
> Introduction
>
> 	Ruby continued to delight its practitioners and, perhaps, tempt those 
> who work in other languages, throughout 2002.  Measured by traffic on 
> the ruby-talk mailing list, more and more people from around the world 
> are discovering Ruby and the joys it brings to programming.  And 
> visions of the future of Ruby (more libraries, faster execution, more 
> intuitive interfaces to enhanced functionality) have intoxicated 
> Rubyists (Rubiots?  Rubyphiles?  Ruby Miners?) everywhere.  The 
> community itself is such a pleasure to be a part of.  In some ways, 
> the only hard times in the community seem to come from loving Ruby too 
> much.  [Need to add links.]
>
> 1.  The release of 1.6.8.
>
>     [I don't know what's important to point out here.]  [Need to add 
> links.]
>
> 2.  The release of 1.8 preview.
>
>     [I definitely don't know what to say here.]  [Need to add links.]
>
> 3.  Unit Testing with Test:Unit
>
>     The Test:Unit library (http://) is now included in the standard 
> Ruby distribution.  Test:Unit is an object oriented framework for 
> building unit tests.  It sports an intuitive interface and rock-solid 
> performance.  Now, outside-in, method interface oriented and true 
> encapsulation design practices are available even to the beginning 
> programmer.  You will still have to write the tests and write the code 
> that passes the tests on your own though.  Those currently outside the 
> Ruby community also get to skip the extensive, but polite, discussions 
> of setup and teardown vs. set_up and tear_down (it's the former, and 
> the discussions are in the mailing list archives, for those with too 
> much time on their hands).  [Need to add links.]
>
> 4.  XML with REXML
>
>     [I haven't yet used REXML (although I will start fairly soon).]  
> [Need to add links.]
>
> 5.  Documentation
>
>     Documentation and documentation tools have continued to develop 
> for Ruby libraries and applications.  However, more and more work is 
> needed to keep up with the pace and volume of development efforts.  In 
> particular, more work is needed on English (and other languages) 
> documentation for libraries and applications currently documented only 
> in Japanese and/or English.  [This needs to be expanded, but I don't 
> really know enough about what's been done on this.]  [Need to add 
> links.]
>
> 6.  Ruby on Mac OS X.
>
>     Beginning with Mac OS X 10.2 (Jaguar), Ruby is now standard on the 
> Mac (along with Perl and Python).  __________ has been working on 
> RubyCocoa, now at version ___, which makes the Cocoa framework 
> available to Ruby.  [RubyCocoa is still on my to-do list, so I lack 
> the knowledge to adequately address it.]  [Need to add links.]
>
> 7.  Compiled Ruby and Virtual Machines.
>
>     Matz, the inventor of Ruby, and his unnamed associates (or is it 
> co-conspirators?) are working on speeding up the Ruby interpreter 
> (while keeping dynamic typing).  The choice of virtual machine for 
> this purpose is perhaps the most closely guarded secret on the planet 
> and a source of almost unbearable suspense for the Ruby community.  Is 
> it Parrot?  Forth?  Scheme-48?  Only time, and matz, will tell.  [Need 
> to add links.]
>
> 8.  Ruby Books
>
>     2002 saw the publication the English translation of Ruby in a 
> Nutshell (by matz), The Ruby Way (by Hal Fulton) and Teach Yourself 
> Ruby in 21 Days (by Mark Slagell).  Programming Ruby (by Andy Hunt and 
> Dave Thomas), known in the Ruby community as the pickaxe book, 
> continued to be extremely popular (at least as to the free online 
> version) and enormously useful.  All who can find and afford a hard 
> copy should buy the book, because it is best used open and beside your 
> computer (and because sales will encourage more publishers to publish 
> more Ruby books).
>
>     *	 Ruby in Nutshell is by matz, the inventor of Ruby.  [I confess, 
> with great embarrassment, that I haven't read this book.]
>
>     *	 Teach Yourself Ruby in 21 Days is an excellent book for the 
> beginning programmer that also covers more advanced topics such as 
> recursion, matrices, binary decision trees and class interfaces.  
> Those who are turned off by the title of the book should look deeper 
> (after all, you can't judge a book by its cover or its title).  If it 
> helps, one might think of it by another title they find more appealing 
> (maybe "The Structure and Interpretation of Ruby Programs").
>
>     *	 The Ruby Way is an outstanding book that covers the Ruby 
> approach to solving a broad range of programming problems.  Many 
> advanced topics are thoroughly covered and the discussions of more 
> basic concepts often provide new insights into what is really going on 
> in Ruby and in programming generally.  It is an intermediate level 
> book and is a must-have for Ruby programmers.
>
> [Any others?  Also any interesting books in non-English?]  [Need to 
> add links.]
>
> 9.  Growing interest in Fox and FxRuby as a desirable Ruby GUI.
>
>     [I don't know enough about this.  Sidenote: I really want to 
> figure out how to get FxRuby working on Mac OS X and will redouble my 
> meager efforts on this.]  [Need to add links.]
>
> 10.  Ruby and Web Application Development [This section is from Phil 
> Tomson with some minor edits by me.]
>
>      Web application development with Ruby is beginning to come into 
> its own. Many quality tools are now available and have reached 
> milestone stability releases.
>
>      *	 eRuby provides for embedding Ruby script directly into HTML 
> documents, much like PHP, but grants the developer all the power of 
> Ruby's object oriented design.
>
>      *	 Amrita (http://), an alternative to eRuby, is an HTML/XHTML 
> tag attribute-based markup syntax, making for excellent separation of 
> content and logic.
>
>      *	 For accelerated execution, mod_ruby (http://www.modruby.net/), 
> the Ruby Apache module, embeds the ruby interpreter directly into 
> Apache, much like mod_perl and mod_php, and is quite stable, now at 
> version 1.0.2.
>
>      *	 There are also complete frameworks like CGIKit and ILE 
> (http://virtualschool.edu/ile/) to speed development.
>
>      Web development with Ruby is very powerful solution and gives web 
> programmers powerful object oriented tools that can be used with 
> traditional Perl and PHP scripting or in place of these other tools 
> where appropriate. Expect to see many new Ruby-based applications in 
> the future!  [Need to add links.]
>
> [Ruby on Windows needs to be addressed.  I don't know anything about 
> this topic]
>
> [The Carrera and Pine tutorials might also be mentioned and linked to 
> -- perhaps in an online resources guide.]
>
> [Also, a section on Perl to Ruby, etc. could also be helpful.]
>
> [Also, a section on using Ruby in an environment along side other 
> scripting language might be helpful.]
>
> [A coming in 2003 section -- FreeRIDE 1.0? others?]this is a good start, but as you point out someone that has tracked
ruby language changes over the year should make a summary of the
language feature changes. also a summary of the main features of the
language, and preferably not a rehash of something thats been said
before (ie in Ruby book introductions).


also, I'm not sure a Perl to Ruby section is warranted, after all it
is not supposed to be a competitive article. I like how you changed
the language regarding perl and php from phil's section, that works
fine.


again, good draft, this makes me personally at least feel a lot better
that ruby community will send something good to the big article.


digibren


On Monday, January 6, 2003, at 12:25  AM, Mark Wilson wrote:


<excerpt>The following is my contribution to this project.  I think I
have exhausted my capacity to add additional content without doing
further research.  I will happily continue to help however I can and
can also contribute to editing and to adding links where needed.  Feel
free to edit, rearrange, use, not use, etc.


Ruby.year(2002)


A report by the Ruby community


Introduction


	Ruby continued to delight its practitioners and, perhaps, tempt those
who work in other languages, throughout 2002.  Measured by traffic on
the ruby-talk mailing list, more and more people from around the world
are discovering Ruby and the joys it brings to programming.  And
visions of the future of Ruby (more libraries, faster execution, more
intuitive interfaces to enhanced functionality) have intoxicated
Rubyists (Rubiots?  Rubyphiles?  Ruby Miners?) everywhere.  The
community itself is such a pleasure to be a part of.  In some ways,
the only hard times in the community seem to come from loving Ruby too
much.  <bold>[Need to add links.]</bold>


1.  The release of 1.6.8.


    <bold>[I don't know what's important to point out here.]  [Need to
add links.]</bold>


2.  The release of 1.8 preview.


    <bold>[I definitely don't know what to say here.]  [Need to add
links.]</bold>


3.  Unit Testing with Test:Unit


    The Test:Unit library (http://) is now included in the standard
Ruby distribution.  Test:Unit is an object oriented framework for
building unit tests.  It sports an intuitive interface and rock-solid
performance.  Now, outside-in, method interface oriented and true
encapsulation design practices are available even to the beginning
programmer.  You will still have to write the tests and write the code
that passes the tests on your own though.  Those currently outside the
Ruby community also get to skip the extensive, but polite, discussions
of setup and teardown vs. set_up and tear_down (it's the former, and
the discussions are in the mailing list archives, for those with too
much time on their hands). <bold> [Need to add links.]</bold>


4.  XML with REXML


   <bold> [I haven't yet used REXML (although I will start fairly
soon).]  [Need to add links.]</bold>


5.  Documentation


    Documentation and documentation tools have continued to develop
for Ruby libraries and applications.  However, more and more work is
needed to keep up with the pace and volume of development efforts.  In
particular, more work is needed on English (and other languages)
documentation for libraries and applications currently documented only
in Japanese and/or English. <bold> [This needs to be expanded, but I
don't really know enough about what's been done on this.]  [Need to
add links.]</bold>


6.  Ruby on Mac OS X.


    Beginning with Mac OS X 10.2 (Jaguar), Ruby is now standard on the
Mac (along with Perl and Python).  __________ has been working on
RubyCocoa, now at version ___, which makes the Cocoa framework
available to Ruby.  <bold>[RubyCocoa is still on my to-do list, so I
lack the knowledge to adequately address it.]  [Need to add links.]</bold>


7.  Compiled Ruby and Virtual Machines.


    Matz, the inventor of Ruby, and his unnamed associates (or is it
co-conspirators?) are working on speeding up the Ruby interpreter
(while keeping dynamic typing).  The choice of virtual machine for
this purpose is perhaps the most closely guarded secret on the planet
and a source of almost unbearable suspense for the Ruby community.  Is
it Parrot?  Forth?  Scheme-48?  Only time, and matz, will tell. 
<bold>[Need to add links.]</bold>


8.  Ruby Books


    2002 saw the publication the English translation of Ruby in a
Nutshell (by matz), The Ruby Way (by Hal Fulton) and Teach Yourself
Ruby in 21 Days (by Mark Slagell).  Programming Ruby (by Andy Hunt and
Dave Thomas), known in the Ruby community as the pickaxe book,
continued to be extremely popular (at least as to the free online
version) and enormously useful.  All who can find and afford a hard
copy should buy the book, because it is best used open and beside your
computer (and because sales will encourage more publishers to publish
more Ruby books).


    *	 Ruby in Nutshell is by matz, the inventor of Ruby.  <bold>[I
confess, with great embarrassment, that I haven't read this book.]</bold>


    *	 Teach Yourself Ruby in 21 Days is an excellent book for the
beginning programmer that also covers more advanced topics such as
recursion, matrices, binary decision trees and class interfaces. 
Those who are turned off by the title of the book should look deeper
(after all, you can't judge a book by its cover or its title).  If it
helps, one might think of it by another title they find more appealing
(maybe "The Structure and Interpretation of Ruby Programs").


    *	 The Ruby Way is an outstanding book that covers the Ruby
approach to solving a broad range of programming problems.  Many
advanced topics are thoroughly covered and the discussions of more
basic concepts often provide new insights into what is really going on
in Ruby and in programming generally.  It is an intermediate level
book and is a must-have for Ruby programmers.


<bold>[Any others?  Also any interesting books in non-English?]  [Need
to add links.]</bold>


9.  Growing interest in Fox and FxRuby as a desirable Ruby GUI.


    <bold>[I don't know enough about this.  Sidenote: I really want to
figure out how to get FxRuby working on Mac OS X and will redouble my
meager efforts on this.]  [Need to add links.]</bold>


10.  Ruby and Web Application Development <bold>[This section is from
Phil Tomson with some minor edits by me.]</bold>


     Web application development with Ruby is beginning to come into
its own. Many quality tools are now available and have reached
milestone stability releases.


     *	 eRuby provides for embedding Ruby script directly into HTML
documents, much like PHP, but grants the developer all the power of
Ruby's object oriented design.


     *	 Amrita (http://), an alternative to eRuby, is an HTML/XHTML
tag attribute-based markup syntax, making for excellent separation of
content and logic.


     *	 For accelerated execution, mod_ruby (http://www.modruby.net/),
the Ruby Apache module, embeds the ruby interpreter directly into
Apache, much like mod_perl and mod_php, and is quite stable, now at
version 1.0.2.


     *	 There are also complete frameworks like CGIKit and ILE
(http://virtualschool.edu/ile/) to speed development.


     Web development with Ruby is very powerful solution and gives web
programmers powerful object oriented tools that can be used with
traditional Perl and PHP scripting or in place of these other tools
where appropriate. Expect to see many new Ruby-based applications in
the future! <bold> [Need to add links.]</bold>


<bold>[Ruby on Windows needs to be addressed.  I don't know anything
about this topic]


[The Carrera and Pine tutorials might also be mentioned and linked to
-- perhaps in an online resources guide.]


[Also, a section on Perl to Ruby, etc. could also be helpful.]


[Also, a section on using Ruby in an environment along side other
scripting language might be helpful.]


[A coming in 2003 section -- FreeRIDE 1.0? others?]</bold></excerpt>

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