From: Dmitri Colebatch Date: 2003-01-11T20:32:25+09:00 Subject: Re: Why Fox > Perhaps somebody with more extensive experience can correct me, but FOX also > seems to have a respectable startup time - slower than Tk, but faster than > Java/Swing. Bear in mind that the Java VM takes a long time to kick in, and that what a lot of people would perceive as being slowness of swing startup is actually startup of the JVM. Having said that, it doesn't really matter now does it, when you're comparing Java swing to FXRuby (o: my 2c dim