[#60287] DBI::DatabaseHandl#columns — Tom Sawyer <transami@...>
Can any one tell me if a call to DBI::DatabaseHandle#columns actually queries
[#60304] FreeRIDE hangs when I use gets — sothoth@... (Yog-Sothoth)
Hi there, and happy new year!
Is there any way to retrieve the table and database associated with
On Wednesday 01 January 2003 07:03 am, David King Landrith wrote:
On Wednesday, January 1, 2003, at 09:20 AM, Tom Sawyer wrote:
On Thursday, January 2, 2003, 4:10:53 AM, David wrote:
On Friday, January 3, 2003, 1:59:03 AM, David wrote:
>> From: "Gavin Sinclair"
speaking of Ruby DBI, does anyone know if there is a limitation to the size of
[#60312] sysread of /dev/video with threads — Pat Mahoney <pat@...>
Can someone explain why the following code does not work?
[#60314] CGI Lib — dwerder@... (Dominik Werder)
Hi all!
> btw, am I the only one who feels that this funny html support doesn't
[#60321] FXRuby/FOX reference? — "Russ Freeman" <russ@...>
Hi folks, just starting some FXRuby in anger. Can anyone point me to a
[#60327] Compiled Ruby executables — Philip Mak <pmak@...>
Is it possible to substantially increase Ruby's execution speed by
[#60330] javacrap, i mean javascript — Tom Sawyer <transami@...>
a bit OT but,
[#60332] Is there any mod_ruby/eruby for Windoze XP? — "Useko Netsumi" <usenets@...>
I've been looking/searching and can't find any. Thanks.
Anyone has Windows XP binary distribution for the latest working version?
[#60364] Class.inherited — Matthias Veit <matthias_veit@...>
Hi,
On Thu, 2003-01-02 at 08:48, Yukihiro Matsumoto wrote:
[#60378] Interfaces in Ruby — "Robert" <bob.news@...>
[#60383] Q: RAA source archives? (404s) — Michael Shigorin <mike@...>
Hi,
[#60390] Re: Are we even getting close? — "Ted" <ted@...>
Now we're getting somewhere!
[#60391] State of Ruby Web Application Frameworks — "Jason Voegele" <jason@...>
I've just finished a project that was developed using JavaServer Pages,
[#60410] How to call overridden methods (finally!) — "Chris Pine" <nemo@...>
I thought I had come up with a clever way to call a method which has been
[#60415] Dir.rename? — coma_killen@...
Hi,
[#60442] sort the hash keys — zhoujing@... (TOTO)
How can I sort the keys of a Hash so that they can be outputed
On Friday, January 3, 2003, 1:52:24 PM, TOTO wrote:
[#60469] Source code formatter for Ruby? — "Booth, Peter" <Peter.Booth@...>
Does anyone know of a source code formatter for Ruby?
[#60470] toplevel modules and classes — Eugene Scripnik <Eugene.Scripnik@...>
How do I get all defined toplevel modules and classes?
Friday, January 3, 2003, 5:49:04 PM, you wrote:
[#60495] md5 algorithms — charles blackburn <Angel-Bunny@...>
hi
[#60501] dump depth argument — Tom Sawyer <transami@...>
On 2003.01.04, Tom Sawyer <transami@transami.net> wrote:
On Friday 03 January 2003 12:05 pm, Dossy wrote:
[#60522] FXRuby docs — "JJ" <none@...>
Is there any extensive documentation on FXRuby? A printable format would be
[#60541] testunit 0.1.6 problems — Daniel Berger <djberg96@...>
ruby 1.6.7, 1.6.8, 1.7.3
Daniel Berger [mailto:djberg96@yahoo.com] wrote:
On Sunday, January 5, 2003, 2:46:04 AM, nathaniel wrote:
Gavin Sinclair [mailto:gsinclair@soyabean.com.au] wrote:
On Thursday, January 9, 2003, 6:56:44 AM, nathaniel wrote:
> In my mind, there's nothing whatsoever wrong with an empty unit test.
----- Original Message -----
Gavin Sinclair [mailto:gsinclair@soyabean.com.au] wrote:
On Friday, January 10, 2003, 3:01:45 PM, nathaniel wrote:
Gavin Sinclair [mailto:gsinclair@soyabean.com.au] wrote:
Hi,
Hi --
[#60545] Readline module in 1.6.8 — Daniel Carrera <dcarrera@...>
I'm installing ruby 1.6.8 and the source distribution seems that it's
[#60559] object — Manfred Hansen <manfred@...>
Hi,
[#60575] Using TCPServer with multiple network cards — web2ed@... (Edward Wilson)
How can one use TCPServer with more than one network card; e.g. how
[#60603] executing block at toplevel from within a class — Tom Sawyer <transami@...>
how do i execute a block for the toplevel from within a class method?
Hi,
On Sunday 05 January 2003 02:39 am, nobu.nokada@softhome.net wrote:
[#60604] Forward: Drafting a "The Year in Scripting Languages" — matz@... (Yukihiro Matsumoto)
Hello,
On Sunday, January 5, 2003, 8:14:48 PM, Yukihiro wrote:
Hi,
I do think that this is something we should do. I can't do it myself
I also don't think I can write the article because I don't know what's
I noticed several replies which said that they could not do this - I
Hi,
The following is my contribution to this project. I think I have
[#60620] bad interpreter — Arnaudo Massimo <marnaudo@...>
Hi everibody,
In article <20030105144216.GA2879@gull.zena.it>,
* Martin Kahlert <mkcon@gmx.de> [gioved09 gennaio 2003, alle 16:36]:
Hi --
> > masarn1@gull:~/Ruby$ ./test.rb 2> error.log
* Stoyan Zhekov <zhware@hotpop.com> [venerd10 gennaio 2003, alle 08:55]:
On Sun, Jan 12, 2003 at 02:41:49AM +0900, Arnaudo Massimo wrote:
Arnaudo Massimo <marnaudo@inwind.it> writes:
[#60636] Compile time constant folding? — Dan Sugalski <dan@...>
Here's a quick question, now that parrot's close to getting object
At 9:19 AM +0900 1/6/03, Mark Probert wrote:
Dan Sugalski wrote:
[#60650] attr_cast, one a small step for interface techniques — Tom Sawyer <transami@...>
another addition to tomslib/rubylib:
On Monday, 6 January 2003 at 10:30:54 +0900, Tom Sawyer wrote:
On Monday, January 6, 2003, 1:20:06 PM, Jim wrote:
On Sunday 05 January 2003 09:30 pm, Gavin Sinclair wrote:
On Monday, January 6, 2003, 7:48:18 PM, Tom wrote:
On Monday 06 January 2003 04:55 am, Gavin Sinclair wrote:
On Tuesday, 7 January 2003 at 10:06:22 +0900, Tom Sawyer wrote:
here you go, in full! (by the way the old attr_accessor does not depend on
THERE SEEMS TO BE A BUG. HAVEN'T FIGURED IT OUT YET THOUGH. ANYONE SEE IT?
All fixed. new code. (ever so slight changes):
On Tue, Jan 07, 2003 at 03:16:40PM +0900, Tom Sawyer wrote:
[#60674] What it more efficient fork or thread ? — Jonas Hoffmann <ruby@...>
Hi !
[#60692] How many single Methods provides Ruby ? — Jonas Hoffmann <ruby@...>
Hi !
[#60726] Ruby 1.6.8 md5 sum? — Hugh Sasse Staff Elec Eng <hgs@...>
I am delighted to see that 1.6.8 is now out. Thank you, Matz.
[#60742] WIN32 Serial Port — Travis Whitton <whitton@...>
Is it possible to access the serial port using ruby on windows? If so,
[#60766] Re: A very humour game — Gavin Sinclair <gsinclair@...>
Should a rule be set up that disallows messages (or attachments) of
----- Original Message -----
attachments are OK, certainly larger than 10K. already the virus
On 2003.01.07, Brennan Leathers <digibren@mac.com> wrote:
[#60786] Re: attachment:ot -was RE: A very humour game — "Pe, Botp" <botp@...>
Hi, Gavin,
Hi,
> Agree. Altenative HTML parts are almost useless and should be
[#60792] Re: attachment:ot -was RE: A very humour game — "Pe, Botp" <botp@...>
[#60796] Ruby-lang site HTML problems — Tim Bates <tim@...>
ruby-lang.org/en doesn't display properly in Konqueror. Instead of having the
On Wed, 8 Jan 2003 10:09 am, Mauricio Fern疣dez wrote:
[#60800] Mail - news gateway — Martin DeMello <martindemello@...>
Feature request - could the mail/news gateway be set up to do things
[#60805] Regular expressions alternative — Maur兤io <briqueabraque@...>
Hi,
[#60824] Database to objects mapping library — Child <child@...9.ds.pwr.wroc.pl>
Hello
Here is a persistence library I threw together in a hurry, which so far
[#60841] Year in scripting languages? — christopher.j.meisenzahl@...
Does this work exist anywhere yet? I've seen a few references to it.
[#60859] $cgi = CGI.new w/ mod_ruby dangerous or acceptable? — Tom Sawyer <transami@...>
i've run into a couple of spots where it would be nice to have a universally
On Wednesday, January 8, 2003, 12:17:34 PM, Tom wrote:
On Tuesday 07 January 2003 06:24 pm, Gavin Sinclair wrote:
[#60877] Can you detect if a method takes a block argument? — Martin Hart <martin@...>
Hi all, hope everybody had a great new year - it is snowing outside for
>>>>> "M" == Martin Hart <martin@zsdfherg.com> writes:
Quick shot, suppose ruby wizards can make this still better.
[#60902] prompt — zhoujing@... (TOTO)
Is there a Ruby idiom to do prompting? For example,
[#60910] Ruby advocacy in sigs — Brennan Leathers <digibren@...>
I've started using the following as a sig on leoville.com, a very large
On Sun, 12 Jan 2003 11:34:53 +0900, Douglas Hunter <dug@plusthree.com>
>
On Thu, 16 Jan 2003, Gennady wrote:
I don't know if sending buggy code is the best way to
Hi,
Hi --
----- Original Message -----
"More powerful than Perl, more object-oriented than Python."
On Thu, 16 Jan 2003, Tom Sawyer wrote:
On Thursday 16 January 2003 03:47 am, Hugh Sasse Staff Elec Eng wrote:
On Thu, 16 Jan 2003, Tom Sawyer wrote:
On Thu, Jan 16, 2003 at 09:12:48PM +0900, Hugh Sasse Staff Elec Eng wrote:
> anyway, my point being that i don' think Ruby gets the attention it deserves
On Fri, 17 Jan 2003 05:32 am, Travis Whitton wrote:
Hugh Sasse Staff Elec Eng <hgs@dmu.ac.uk> writes:
[#60911] String#unpack and big-endian versus little-endian — Harry Ohlsen <harryo@...>
I hit an interesting problem yesterday. I have a Ruby script that reads the
[#60917] 'borrow' Tcl's virtual file system — ptkwt@...1.aracnet.com (Phil Tomson)
I saw this in an early version of the 'Year in scripting languages' that
Hi,
[#60926] The Year in Scripting Languages (Final Draft) — Lyle Johnson <lyle@...>
All,
so who are we?
Hi,
On Thursday, 9 January 2003 at 9:18:00 +0900, Yukihiro Matsumoto wrote:
Hi,
In Narf I have a module that is included in a test class to provide
Tom Clarke [mailto:tom@u2i.com] wrote:
How about this:
Tom Clarke [mailto:tom@u2i.com] wrote:
> module MyTestModule
supposed to be 3 paragraphs. still way too long.
Brennan Leathers wrote:
yes, sorry. I knew I should have even as I posted but since it was so
Why not just 'Rubies'?
[#60944] OT: apple x11 — Brennan Leathers <digibren@...>
just in case anyone missed the word on the wire, apple has released its
FUJIMOTO Hisakuni wrote:
At Thu, 9 Jan 2003 22:57:17 +0900,
On Thursday, 9 January 2003 at 23:57:25 +0900, FUJIMOTO Hisakuni wrote:
At Fri, 10 Jan 2003 00:05:15 +0900,
At Fri, 10 Jan 2003 00:40:23 +0900,
I have tried to install RubyCocoa and received the following error:
[#61002] @@'s are not inherited? — Tom Sawyer <transami@...>
please correct me if i'm wrong but i beleive i just discovered something i did
On Thursday 09 January 2003 05:48 am, Tom Sawyer wrote:
[#61017] REXML and XPath Confusion — Mark Probert <probertm@...>
[#61024] ruby in another spotlight — Pat Eyler <pate@...>
http://use.perl.org/~Ovid/journal/9867
[#61029] so it seems there is no way to pass argument lists? — Tom Sawyer <transami@...>
so it seems there is no way to pass argument lists?
[#61033] accessing a function without initalization — Daniel Bretoi <lists@...>
class Test
[#61043] attr_reader/writer vs. attr_accessor w/ access control — Tom Sawyer <transami@...>
it strikes me as curious....
Hi --
On Fri, Jan 10, 2003 at 07:14:24AM +0900, dblack@candle.superlink.net wrote:
On Thursday 09 January 2003 03:57 pm, Mauricio Fern疣dez wrote:
[#61079] Security problems — Tim Bates <tim@...>
I'm having problems with controlling what can and can't be done in a certain
>>>>> "T" == Tim Bates <tim@bates.id.au> writes:
On Fri, 10 Jan 2003 08:49 pm, ts wrote:
>>>>> "T" == Tim Bates <tim@bates.id.au> writes:
[#61098] Using Observer pattern in client/server architecture - how? — Martin Hart <martin@...>
Hi everyone,
On Friday 10 January 2003 09:02 am, Martin Hart wrote:
On 1/10/03, 4:55:55 PM, Tom Sawyer <transami@transami.net> wrote regarding
On Friday 10 January 2003 10:07 am, Martin Hart wrote:
On 1/10/03, 5:34:39 PM, Tom Sawyer <transami@transami.net> wrote regarding
[#61102] iterating in a test — Paul Brannan <pbrannan@...>
Short question: if I have a test that iterates over a list of items, how
On 1/10/03, 4:29:31 PM, Paul Brannan <pbrannan@atdesk.com> wrote regarding
On Sat, Jan 11, 2003 at 01:38:09AM +0900, Martin Hart wrote:
[#61114] Having challenge with multipart file upload — Jim Freeze <jim@...>
Hi:
[#61120] dot-equals method? — "Chris Pine" <nemo@...>
Hello,
Hi --
> > However, there is no `split!' method, nor could there ever be, since `split'
Hi --
[#61144] Why Fox — Daniel Carrera <dcarrera@...>
Could someone explain to me why Ruby is adopting Fox as its standard GUI?
On Sat, 11 Jan 2003 08:16:12 +0900
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Holden, Thank you for your response. I found it helpful.
[#61167] 'require' search path — Tim Bates <tim@...>
I wish 'require' would count the current directory as the directory the file
On Saturday 11 January 2003 04:23 am, Tim Bates wrote:
Hi --
On Saturday 11 January 2003 06:38 pm, dblack@candle.superlink.net wrote:
On Sun, 12 Jan 2003, Tom Sawyer wrote:
[#61173] Wiki sub-pages — Gavin Sinclair <gsinclair@...>
To all those who use the Ruby Garden Wiki:
On Sunday, January 12, 2003, 1:05:29 AM, Gavin wrote:
On Sun, 12 Jan 2003 12:50 am, Gavin Sinclair wrote:
[#61192] Cygwin Ruby Woes — Travis Whitton <whitton@...>
Hello, I recently switched from the one-click Windows installer ruby to
[#61203] parameters and their assignment to the argument list: logical/consistent? — jcb@... (MetalOne)
I was wondering if anybody thinks there is anything illogical or
On Sun, Jan 12, 2003 at 05:44:04AM +0900, MetalOne wrote:
[#61220] Ruby: politics & performance [long] — Louis Krupp <lkrupp@...>
The problem: Read a structured file (the details are irrelevant)
ts wrote:
[#61229] Instance vars as arguments to initialize()? — Jim Bob <invalid@...>
I sometimes find myself doing something like this:
In article <slrnb202t7.l1k.invalid@mojo.chicken.com>, Jim Bob wrote:
[#61236] Re: Statically linking ruby extensions - build problem — Daniel Berger <djberg96@...>
>From: Daniel Carrera >Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2003 04:30:03 +0900Hi Daniel,Ok, here's some more info:>ruby -e 'puts $LOAD_PATH'/boot/home/Programming/Ruby/Extensions/sys-uname-516>ruby -e 'puts $LOAD_PATH'/boot/home/config/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/boot/home/config/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/i586-beos/boot/home/config/lib/ruby/site_ruby/boot/home/config/lib/ruby/1.8/boot/home/config/lib/ruby/1.8/i586-beos.Looks alright.The extconf.rb for uname is simply (after I removed the solaris specific have_header):require 'mkmf'create_makefile('sys/uname')Output of manually building uname in its own directory:/boot/home/Programming/Ruby/Extensions/sys-uname-538>makegcc -g -O2 -I. -I/boot/home/config/lib/ruby/1.8/i586-beos -I/boot/home/config/lib/ruby/1.8/i586-beos -I. -c uname.cld -shared -L/boot/develop/lib/x86 -lbe -lroot -L"/boot/home/config/lib" -o uname.so uname.o -lruby/boot/home/Programming/Ruby/Extensions/sys-uname-539>make installuname.so -> /boot/home/config/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/i
[#61249] unsubscribe — Maggie Xiao <mxiao@...>
unsubscribe mxiao@ee.ualberta.ca
[#61252] wxRuby — Daniel Carrera <dcarrera@...>
Is there any source code for wxRuby anywhere?
Daniel Carrera wrote:
Markus Jais wrote:
Could I get the code that you currently have? Just to look at it. I've
Daniel Carrera wrote:
[#61271] sorting with the Swartzian transform — Daniel Carrera <dcarrera@...>
Hello all,
Hi,
Daniel Carrera <dcarrera@math.umd.edu> wrote:
Hello Martin,
[#61281] mod_ruby and Mac OS X — Dan Bailey <dan.bailey@...>
Anyone out there installed mod_ruby on Mac OS X 10.2?
[#61349] OT: IE blatantly defiant of HTML standards — Tom Sawyer <transami@...>
Tom Sawyer (transami@transami.net) wrote:
On Sunday 19 January 2003 02:41 pm, Eric Hodel wrote:
> Tom Sawyer (transami@transami.net) wrote:
On Sunday 19 January 2003 08:21 pm, Dmitri Colebatch wrote:
Tom Sawyer wrote:
--- Dmitri Colebatch <dim@colebatch.com> wrote:
On Monday 20 January 2003 04:58 am, Anders Bengtsson wrote:
On Tue, 21 Jan 2003 12:23 pm, Tom Sawyer wrote:
Tim Bates wrote:
On Tue, 21 Jan 2003 01:05 pm, Dmitri Colebatch wrote:
[#61351] UML tool for Linux? — Tim Bates <tim@...>
Does anyone know of a good OO modelling (UML?) tool for Linux, that works well
[#61356] Array_Of(AClass) — Tom Sawyer <transami@...>
i wonder, a coding challenge of sorts, what would it talk to create an
[#61358] YAML.rb 0.49.1 -- Perfecting the parser, new merge indicator, base60 — why the lucky stiff <yaml-core@...>
YAML.rb 0.49.1 now out. [http://yaml4r.sf.net/]
I tried to run the test suite against this on the Ruby (1.6.7) that
On Thursday, 16 January 2003 at 23:26:48 +0900, Richard Kilmer wrote:
That works wonders.
[#61366] ruby-1.8.0-preview1 AIX 4 compiling — moumar@...
here is a patch against 1.8.0-preview1 which fixes compiling problems on A=
[#61368] Doesn't anyone do file uploads via html? — Jim Freeze <jim@...>
Hi:
[#61374] Float#to_s ??? — Gavin Sinclair <gsinclair@...>
I think I'm going mad....
On Tuesday, January 14, 2003, 12:43:40 AM, Gavin wrote:
[#61435] Yet Another Test First Example ... in Ruby — Jim Weirich <jweirich@...>
Our local XP group did a Test-Driven Design clinic. Although most of
On Tuesday, 14 January 2003 at 11:13:01 +0900, Jim Weirich wrote:
Very nice ...
On Tuesday, January 14, 2003, 2:53:20 PM, Shashank wrote:
[#61444] drb question — "Shashank Date" <sdate@...>
I am trying the distributed Ruby examples from PickAxe using
[#61468] FXRuby problem on Windows — "Daniel P. Zepeda" <daniel@...>
Hi,
[#61483] compiling FXRuby-1.0.17 under cygwin — james@... (James Adam)
I'm having trouble compiling FXRuby under cygwin. here's the error i'm
On Tue, 14 Jan 2003 22:54:30 +0900, james@lazyatom.com (James Adam) wrote:
> Speaking of FxRuby, are you (or anyone else) just using FOX's C++ docs and
[#61497] ruby-dev summary 19198-19345 — Kazuo Saito <ksaito@...>
On Wed, Jan 15, 2003 at 02:31:22AM +0900, Kazuo Saito wrote:
Paul Brannan <pbrannan@atdesk.com> writes:
Hi,
matz@ruby-lang.org (Yukihiro Matsumoto) writes:
On Wednesday, January 15, 2003, 3:17:11 PM, Matt wrote:
Hi,
matz@ruby-lang.org (Yukihiro Matsumoto) writes:
On Tuesday 14 January 2003 10:31 am, Kazuo Saito wrote:
On Tuesday 14 January 2003 12:40 pm, Tom Sawyer wrote:
On Thursday, January 16, 2003, 3:19:13 PM, Tom wrote:
On Wednesday 15 January 2003 10:08 pm, Gavin Sinclair wrote:
On Wednesday, January 15, 2003, 4:31:22 AM, Kazuo wrote:
[#61502] Question on FXDataTarget — Joey Gibson <joey@...>
I'm using FOX via FxRuby and I'm trying to get FXDataTarget going. If I
[#61520] Re: Segmentation fault on gets — "Berger, Daniel" <djberge@...>
> -----Original Message-----
[#61524] ruby -e not printing to stdout — Jim Freeze <jim@...>
Hi:
[#61542] drb documentation exists? — "pat zes" <jonnypichler@...>
i am searching for a drb (
[#61597] FXRuby spacing and layouts — Martin DeMello <martindemello@...>
Okay, for my crossword app I'm trying to construct a matrix of squares
[#61600] Installing and using 'shim' — Gavin Sinclair <gsinclair@...>
I've downloaded 'shim' from the RAA. It provides a 1.6 system with
>>>>> "G" == Gavin Sinclair <gsinclair@soyabean.com.au> writes:
I seem to remember something like this in Ruby, but I can't find it now. In
[#61628] $DEBUG and exceptions — Joel VanderWerf <vjoel@...>
[#61653] Quick question for Japanese speaker — "Hal E. Fulton" <hal9000@...>
I've created a graphic based on the Kanji
[#61682] Re: ruby-dev summary 19198-19345 — "Pe, Botp" <botp@...>
Hi,
[#61720] Unit Testing in dynamic environments — Travis Whitton <whitton@...>
I'm just starting to get into unit testing, and I can already see how powerful
[#61749] Linux Editor — dwerder@... (Dominik Werder)
What's your favorite ruby editor on linux?
[#61757] quick: it responds, it evaluates, and is not empty — Tom Sawyer <transami@...>
quick quest: anyone know of a nice slick short and sweet way to do this:
Hi --
Hello Tom,
On Thursday 16 January 2003 11:25 pm, Bulat Ziganshin wrote:
Hello Tom,
On Friday 17 January 2003 07:08 am, Bulat Ziganshin wrote:
On Saturday, January 18, 2003, 1:22:09 AM, Tom wrote:
Hi --
On Fri, 17 Jan 2003 dblack@candle.superlink.net wrote:
Hi --
On Sat, 18 Jan 2003 dblack@candle.superlink.net wrote:
Hi --
On Sat, 18 Jan 2003 dblack@candle.superlink.net wrote:
[#61759] most popular unix scripting language — dorli@... (dambalaMaster)
does anyone know which is the most popular unix scripting language?
[#61780] Re: ruby-dev summary 19198-19345 — "Pe, Botp" <botp@...>
OK, what about this suggestion in the OO spirit of Ruby?
On Friday 17 January 2003 04:19 am, Hugh Sasse Staff Elec Eng wrote:
[#61790] Segfault — "Mathew Johnston" <johnston@...>
Appended to this message, you will find my script (currently only partly
[#61810] Automating Perl -> Ruby translation? — "Hal E. Fulton" <hal9000@...>
Has anyone given any thought to this
In article <034a01c2be07$95670380$0300a8c0@austin.rr.com>,
On Sat, 18 Jan 2003, Phil Tomson wrote:
[#61820] Feature request: Array.to_h — google@... (Tom Payne)
I use the following snippet a lot, and think it's worth including in
Hi --
[#61822] Feature request: Array.to_h (2nd part!) — google@... (Tom Payne)
Hit post by accident! The full final example:
[#61840] Accessing Infinity — "Robert Klemme" <bob.news@...>
[#61869] BlackAdder - Visual Development with Python and Ruby — soso <_soso@...>
Hi everybody,
soso <_soso@softhome.net> wrote in message news:<3E283C30.6060503@softhome.net>...
[#61901] Resolution to CGI API problem? — Travis Whitton <whitton@...>
There is a very long thread [ruby-talk:39898] that talks about changes
[#61916] Programming Languages Will Become OSes (But Are Not Quite Yet) — " JamesBritt" <james@...>
Saw this article/talk mentioned on /.
>>>>> "J" == JamesBritt <JamesBritt> writes:
On Sat, 18 Jan 2003, ts wrote:
ts wrote:
[#61949] Ruby under Windows — Daniel Carrera <dcarrera@...>
Hi,
[#61959] dRuby question — "Shashank Date" <sdate@...>
I am trying to write a client/server application using dRuby drb-2.0b1 onWin
[#61960] GetoptLong — Daniel Carrera <dcarrera@...>
Hello,
[#61965] PickAxe index? — Daniel Carrera <dcarrera@...>
Does PickAxe online have an index?
On Sunday, January 19, 2003, 9:47:49 AM, Daniel wrote:
[#62000] Matrix#pretty_print available? — Gavin Sinclair <gsinclair@...>
Hi folks,
Hi --
On Sunday, January 19, 2003, 11:42:25 PM, dblack wrote:
[#62011] Strange sleep behavior? — Bjorn Stahl <bjst01@...>
th = Thread.new{
[#62039] New address for Ruby IRC (chat) channel — dblack@...
Hi --
On Monday, January 20, 2003, 2:13:02 PM, Shashank wrote:
[#62057] ruby-dev summary 19346-19379 — Takaaki Tateishi <ttate@...>
Hello,
On Mon, Jan 20, 2003 at 08:03:00PM +0900, Takaaki Tateishi wrote:
[#62061] Tips for compiling libraries for use with Windows Ruby? — Robert McGovern <robertm@...>
I am planning on compiling a few libraries for use with the windows
On Monday, January 20, 2003, 11:38:54 PM, Robert wrote:
>>I don't have VC++, so I was planning on using either mingw, mingw cross
[#62063] a single class that supports multiple facets/interfaces — David Garamond <davegaramond@...>
i want to have a class that can support multiple sets of methods, based
Hi --
dblack@candle.superlink.net wrote:
>>>>> "D" == David Garamond <davegaramond@icqmail.com> writes:
On Wednesday, January 22, 2003, 9:30:52 PM, ts wrote:
On Thu, Jan 23, 2003 at 01:47:26AM +0900, Gavin Sinclair wrote:
On Thursday, January 23, 2003, 3:57:28 AM, Mauricio wrote:
On Thursday, January 23, 2003, 4:07:14 AM, Gavin wrote:
[#62067] Generation of array with symbols — Jim Freeze <jim@...>
Hi:
[#62077] 2 optparse questions — han.holl@... (Han Holl)
Hi,
Hi,
[#62093] Local variable scope — Daniel Carrera <dcarrera@...>
I'm a bit confused by the scope of local variables.
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On Tuesday, January 21, 2003, 10:52:40 AM, Hal wrote:
[#62131] redefining rand and srand — ptkwt@...1.aracnet.com (Phil Tomson)
[#62134] killing a process — "Shashank Date" <sdate@...>
Using ruby1.7.3 (2002-11-17) [i386-mswin32]
[#62159] VIM module — Maur兤io <briqueabraque@...>
Hi,
On Tuesday 21 January 2003 14:22, Maur兤io wrote:
[#62168] Threading problem ... — "Lars M." <lars-m@...>
Hi,
Hi --
[#62177] Ruby idiom (0...(expr)).map — Martin DeMello <martindemello@...>
I've found myself writing (0...(expr)).map (as an alternative to
On Wednesday, January 22, 2003, 2:36:50 AM, Martin wrote:
[#62184] Strange behavior — "Lars M." <lars-m@...>
Hi,
[#62203] accessors for module instance vars — ptkwt@...1.aracnet.com (Phil Tomson)
I've got a module that that has several classes defined within it. These
In article <Pine.LNX.4.33.0301212020500.6373-100000@eli.fsl.noaa.gov>,
On 22 Jan 2003, Phil Tomson wrote:
On Wed, Jan 22, 2003 at 02:59:44PM +0900, ahoward wrote:
On Wed, 22 Jan 2003, Mauricio Fern疣dez wrote:
On Thu, Jan 23, 2003 at 12:20:45AM +0900, ahoward wrote:
>>>>> "M" == Mauricio Fern疣dez <Mauricio> writes:
[#62206] Regular expressions — Daniel Carrera <dcarrera@...>
I'm having trouble with a simple match:
[#62213] Newbie Q: do i need PStore for this or something else ? — "Vandemoortele Simon" <delirious_nospamplz@...>
_Background info:_
On Tuesday 21 January 2003 04:18 pm, Vandemoortele Simon wrote:
Bruce Williams wrote:
[#62222] Overloading operators — Philip Mak <pmak@...>
Is there a shortcut for writing all this?
[#62228] OSCON favor — Pat Eyler <pate@...>
Nat asked me to pass along a request. If you're going to OSCON this
[#62230] TCPServer only binding to INET6 interfaces? — Jason DiCioccio <geniusj@...>
Under FreeBSD 5.0-RELEASE running ruby 1.6.8, the following code:
Jason DiCioccio (geniusj@bluenugget.net) wrote:
[#62252] When should a method have parentheses? — Gavin Sinclair <gsinclair@...>
Hi -talk,
[#62262] Lisp in Ruby? — "Chris Pine" <nemo@...>
Yeah, it's kind of a funny question, but I was just wondering...
[#62278] POLS (with one case: "class variable") — David Garamond <davegaramond@...>
the pickaxe defines Principle of Least Surprise as "things work the way
On Wednesday, January 22, 2003, at 05:09 , David Garamond wrote:
[#62297] emacs colouring problem — Mark Probert <probertm@...>
Hi, Rubyists.
[#62306] Single vs double quotes and performance? — E F van de Laar <emiel@...>
Hello all,
[#62312] pragmaticprogrammers installer works on win98 ?? — "pat zes" <jonnypichler@...>
i want to install ruby on a win98-system, using the pragmaticprogrammers
[#62319] Re: exit status, stderr and stdout — "Berger, Daniel" <djberge@...>
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Hi Thank you,
Hi,
This is what I was looking for but I can't seem to be getting the
Hi,
So here's what's happening
[#62321] Definition: iterator — Daniel Carrera <dcarrera@...>
I sort of know what an iterator is, but not well enough to explain it.
On Wednesday 22 January 2003 05:07 pm, Daniel Carrera wrote:
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[#62337] portably turning off the cursor — Ian Macdonald <ian@...>
Hi,
[#62340] mod_ruby: what's persistent and what's shared? — Tom Sawyer <transami@...>
i'm tired of being confused about this and i'm hoping someone can clear this
Hi,
On Fri, 24 Jan 2003, Bill Kelly wrote:
On Thursday 23 January 2003 05:05 pm, ahoward wrote:
[#62344] Can we attack the 'not enough libraries' thing straight on? — dblack@...
Hi --
> So, all you almost-satisfied Ruby programmers, what's missing? :-)
On Thu, 23 Jan 2003 10:36:31 +0900, dblack@candle.superlink.net wrote:
On Thu, 23 Jan 2003, Joey Gibson wrote:
dblack@candle.superlink.net writes:
Hi --
On Sat, 25 Jan 2003, MikkelFJ wrote:
The following is my initial, and not yet complete, proposal on
* Mark Wilson (mwilson13@cox.net) [26 Jan 2003 09:44]:
* Mark Wilson (mwilson13@cox.net) [26 Jan 2003 17:26]:
Iain 'Spoon' Truskett wrote:
Mike Campbell wrote:
I certainly think that RAA should have a search feature.
Hi, all,
Leaving aside broader changes, the following could be implemented
>
Hi, Gavin,
On Wednesday, January 29, 2003, 2:07:22 PM, Hiroshi wrote:
On Sun, 26 Jan 2003, Dave Thomas wrote:
I liked the proposals which separated the functions of searching in the
This expands on what Alan Chen wrote below.
On Sunday 26 January 2003 03:49 pm, Mark Wilson wrote:
On Mon, Jan 27, 2003 at 08:25:22AM +0900, Tom Sawyer wrote:
Daniel Carrera <dcarrera@math.umd.edu> writes:
Hi --
want to here a crazy idea?
dear devels
On Saturday, January 25, 2003, 1:10:00 AM, Warren wrote:
On Fri, Jan 24, 2003 at 11:29:36PM +0900, Gavin Sinclair wrote:
Hi,
dblack@candle.superlink.net wrote:
Hi --
[#62345] Hash#+ ? — Daniel Carrera <dcarrera@...>
I think that there should be a Hash#+ method, aking to Array#+.
Hi --
On Wednesday 22 January 2003 06:52 pm, dblack@candle.superlink.net wrote:
On Thu, Jan 23, 2003 at 11:14:08AM +0900, Tom Sawyer wrote:
On Wednesday 22 January 2003 07:20 pm, Daniel Carrera wrote:
Hi,
On Wednesday 22 January 2003 08:49 pm, Yukihiro Matsumoto wrote:
Hi,
On Wednesday 22 January 2003 09:42 pm, Yukihiro Matsumoto wrote:
At Thu, 23 Jan 2003 13:38:01 +0900,
[#62364] Ruby, C, and garbage collection — Tomasz Wegrzanowski <taw@...>
VALUE a, b, c;
[#62383] Missing libraries?? — "Hal E. Fulton" <hal9000@...>
I'm starting a new thread to get away from
On Thu, 23 Jan 2003, Hal E. Fulton wrote:
[#62455] emulating C preprocessor's #if — Joel VanderWerf <vjoel@...>
Usually, when writing ruby code, I don't worry about conditional
[#62476] Status of wxRuby? — Robert Feldt <feldt@...>
Hi,
Robert Feldt <feldt@ce.chalmers.se> writes:
[#62490] contained_by method (challange) — Tom Sawyer <transami@...>
okay, after all this time i finally figured out exactly what i am after.
[#62521] how do you extend a class externally? — Tom Sawyer <transami@...>
how do you extend a class externally?
[#62563] what's so great about narf? — ahoward <ahoward@...>
[#62568] Re: Can we attack the 'not enough libraries' thing straight on? — "Berger, Daniel" <djberge@...>
[#62580] Our own CPAN — "Chris Pine" <nemo@...>
Hello...
[#62581] Re: Our own CPAN — "Berger, Daniel" <djberge@...>
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[#62593] Ruby Modules in C — Daniel Carrera <dcarrera@...>
I'm struggling to write a module, with a method, in C.
[#62595] Updates to Programming Ruby: Request for Help — Dave Thomas <dave@...>
On Sat, Jan 25, 2003 at 08:13:38AM +0900, Dave Thomas wrote:
[#62609] Submodules and C — Daniel Carrera <dcarrera@...>
Hi,
[#62660] datafiles as Ruby source musings — Wilbert Berendsen <wilbert@...>
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[#62665] RAA proposal — Daniel Carrera <dcarrera@...>
Hello all,
On Sunday, 26 January 2003 at 10:48:02 +0900, Daniel Carrera wrote:
On Sun, Jan 26, 2003 at 10:57:28AM +0900, Jim Freeze wrote:
On Sun, 26 Jan 2003 11:17:12 +0900
Excuse me. Trying to make RAA easier to navigate is not copying Perl.
[#62666] Ruby at Apple? — ptkwt@...1.aracnet.com (Phil Tomson)
I've had a couple of situations recently where I've been talking to
On Sunday, 26 January 2003 at 10:52:08 +0900, Phil Tomson wrote:
[#62707] Is there any chance of getting the ruby.org domain? — Ross Shaw <rshaw1961@...>
It seems to me that it would be much easier if the Ruby community had
[#62708] solaris porting problem -- flock failure? — Joel VanderWerf <vjoel@...>
Any solaris gurus out there?
On Sun, 26 Jan 2003, Joel VanderWerf wrote:
>>>>> "a" == ahoward <ahoward@fsl.noaa.gov> writes:
On Mon, 27 Jan 2003, ts wrote:
On Sun, 26 Jan 2003, Joel VanderWerf wrote:
>>>>> "a" == ahoward <ahoward@fsl.noaa.gov> writes:
On Mon, 27 Jan 2003, ts wrote:
>>>>> "a" == ahoward <ahoward@fsl.noaa.gov> writes:
On Mon, 27 Jan 2003, ts wrote:
[#62710] Adding a ContactItem to a Contact Folder. — "Dwayne Smurdon @ DNA Media Pro" <smurdon@...>
Ok, I'm new to Ruby and new to Office Objects -- double whammy. I'm simply
[#62730] cascading configuration variables — Wilbert Berendsen <wilbert@...>
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>>>>> "W" == Wilbert Berendsen <wilbert@oswf.org> writes:
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>>>>> "W" == Wilbert Berendsen <wilbert@oswf.org> writes:
[#62752] Getting the dynamic IP address of a dialup interface (ppp0) — Mauricio Fern疣dez <batsman.geo@...>
Mauricio Fern?ndez (batsman.geo@yahoo.com) wrote:
[#62767] common regular expressions — Michael Garriss <mgarriss@...>
Sorry if this a stupid question but I am new to ruby AND regular
Hi Michael,
> Has anyone compiled a collection of 'common' regular expression
[#62804] It would be nice to be able to get a regexes string back... — Sam Roberts <sroberts@...>
Sam Roberts (sroberts@uniserve.com) wrote:
Quoteing drbrain@segment7.net, on Mon, Jan 27, 2003 at 04:28:31PM +0900:
[#62807] Organizing our efforts, as well as the modules itself. — "Dwayne Smurdon @ DNA Media Pro" <smurdon@...>
WOW! It's amazing to me to see such passion about the organization of a Web
[#62815] My last word on aliases ;) — Gavin Sinclair <gsinclair@...>
Hi Dave,
[#62816] Very nasty piece of code — Peter Hickman <peter@...>
Whilest writing my RTF tools library I had a need to convert from &#XX;
[#62836] Test::Unit -> order of tests? — Mauricio Fern疣dez <batsman.geo@...>
IMHO, it would be nice if they were run in the order they were defined.
On Tue, 28 Jan 2003, Michael Garriss wrote:
On Tue, 28 Jan 2003, Chad Fowler wrote:
ahoward <ahoward@fsl.noaa.gov> writes:
> To implement this, I would suggest renaming all your test_XXX methods
On Tuesday, January 28, 2003, 11:04:03 AM, Warren wrote:
Warren Brown [mailto:wkb@airmail.net] wrote:
[#62847] tkgnuplot problem: fork() on win — Ralf <lausianne@...>
Hi,
In article <20030128122113W.nagai@ai.kyutech.ac.jp>,
Hi,
Hi,
Hi,
Hi,
nagai@ai.kyutech.ac.jp wrote:
Hi,
Here you go:
Hi,
Hi,
[#62870] WIN32OLE and CrossoverOffice (wine) — Antti Karanta <Antti.Karanta@...>
[#62872] getting eRuby to run under mod_ruby — Ian Macdonald <ian@...>
Hi,
[#62873] Re: Organizing our efforts, as well as the modules itself. — "Dwayne Smurdon @ DNA Media Pro" <smurdon@...>
Personally, a seperate web site or just a different section on the RAA site,
[#62884] How to force a paint on a canvas. — Steve Tuckner <STUCKNER@...>
Hello all,
On Tue, 28 Jan 2003 07:28:34 +0900
[#62886] proposed RAA update plan. — Daniel Carrera <dcarrera@...>
Hello,
[#62890] ruby-dev summary 19380-19436 — TAKAHASHI Masayoshi <maki@...>
Hello all,
On Tue, 28 Jan 2003, TAKAHASHI Masayoshi wrote:
[#62911] Parsing: x = y || raise "error" — Gavin Sinclair <gsinclair@...>
I more or less commonly use the following idiom (taken from recent
[#62915] Another RDoc choke on stdlib — Gavin Sinclair <gsinclair@...>
Hi Dave,
[#62944] euc-jp coding of ruby talk web interface — Fritz Heinrichmeyer <fritz.heinrichmeyer@...>
Scripsit ille aut illa Yohanes Santoso <ysantoso@jenny-gnome.dyndns.org>:
[#62950] OSCON Ruby presentations? — Chad Fowler <chad@...>
Hello, all. I was just wondering with the deadline coming up how many
[#62951] Questions from a Ruby Newbie (file io and data structures)... — christopher.j.meisenzahl@...
I've decided on a small project to attempt to learn Ruby beyond just flipping
[#62966] Use mulit-dim. Arrays? [Questions from a Ruby Newbie (file io and d ata structures)...] — christopher.j.meisenzahl@...
I've got the file IO hammered out. I think I can read each line into a string
[#62973] FileTest.size? vs du -b — Curious Person <antispam@...>
I've noticed something curious. I was throwing together a small script
[#62979] Aliasing class methods — google@... (Tom Payne)
Hi --
[#62996] ping with ruby — "Panther" <saspurss@...>
How can I do a script in ruby that to do a ping.
> That's not a string, use "192.168.1.1"
[#62999] Connecting to a database.. — "Dwayne Smurdon @ DNA Media Pro" <smurdon@...>
I did a lot of googling and looking around the related Ruby websites, but I
[#63009] SEGFAULT : when switching between windows — Jason Persampieri <jason@...>
I'm getting a segfault after doing some stuff within my FXRuby app, then switching focus to a
Jason Persampieri wrote:
[#63024] program name -> perl's $0 — Daniel Bretoi <lists@...>
Anyone have a reference to all the special variable names? In particular
[#63061] $SAFE level mutation for tained classes — Gennady <bystr@...>
Hi, fellow Rubyists
[#63065] Local variables & blocks — ahoward <ahoward@...>
On Wednesday, January 29, 2003, 5:04:51 PM, ahoward wrote:
On Wednesday, January 29, 2003, 6:17:44 PM, Gavin wrote:
On Wed, Jan 29, 2003 at 04:40:21PM +0900, Gavin Sinclair wrote:
Hi,
On Thu, 30 Jan 2003, Yukihiro Matsumoto wrote:
Hi,
On Thursday, January 30, 2003, 4:50:00 AM, Yukihiro wrote:
Hi --
On Wed, Feb 05, 2003 at 10:23:52PM +0900, dblack@candle.superlink.net wrote:
On Wed, 29 Jan 2003, Gavin Sinclair wrote:
ahoward <ahoward@fsl.noaa.gov> wrote:
On Wed, 29 Jan 2003, Martin DeMello wrote:
On Thu, Jan 30, 2003 at 04:48:04AM +0900, ahoward wrote:
On Sat, Feb 01, 2003 at 11:43:47AM +0000, Brian Candler wrote:
ahoward <ahoward@fsl.noaa.gov> wrote:
On Thu, 30 Jan 2003, Martin DeMello wrote:
>>>>> "a" == ahoward <ahoward@fsl.noaa.gov> writes:
Hi,
On Fri, 31 Jan 2003, Yukihiro Matsumoto wrote:
On Thursday 30 January 2003 05:44 pm, ahoward wrote:
Hi,
Hi folks. How do you do?
Hi,
Hi,
Hi,
On Monday 03 February 2003 07:22 am, Yukihiro Matsumoto wrote:
In message "Re: Local variables & blocks"
Hi,
[#63073] solaris flock problem solved — Joel VanderWerf <vjoel@...>
[#63094] Ruby Books -- A Question — Mark Probert <probertm@..._acm.org>
Rubyists,
> More
[#63108] SA_RESTART - signal - trap — ahoward <ahoward@...>
[#63122] Learn and Earn...Join For FREE! — Pamela Paco <pamela_paco@...>
Hello:
[#63136] pickaxe style rd2 format library? — "Berger, Daniel" <djberge@...>
Hi all,
[#63137] Where can I find the pickaxe ebook? — "Dwayne Smurdon @ DNA Media Pro" <smurdon@...>
I've googled and searched a bit on ruby-central, but I can't find anything.
[#63198] reading past a file header — Martin DeMello <martindemello@...>
Looking for a more idiomatic way to do this:
ts <decoux@moulon.inra.fr> wrote:
[#63206] ruby-dbi and oracle error - ORA-24374 — "Berger, Daniel" <djberge@...>
Hi all,
[#63216] Newbie question — n.vasiliev@... (Nicolay Vasiliev)
Hello!
On Fri, Jan 31, 2003 at 01:22:27AM +0900, Nicolay Vasiliev wrote:
[#63227] ANN: _The Ruby Way_ in Japanese — "Hal E. Fulton" <hal9000@...>
This is actually old news, but I've been meaning to
[#63240] Re: How to do grep -v? — "Berger, Daniel" <djberge@...>
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[#63244] How to save Tk canvas as picture/create image from canvas? — Ralf <lausianne@...>
Hi,
Hi,
nagai@ai.kyutech.ac.jp wrote:
Hi,
nagai@ai.kyutech.ac.jp wrote:
Hi,
[#63245] drb experts — ahoward <ahoward@...>
ahoward (ahoward@fsl.noaa.gov) wrote:
On Fri, 31 Jan 2003, Eric Hodel wrote:
[#63284] Return values from assertions — <nathaniel@...>
Eivind Eklund and I have been discussing whether assertions ought to
<nathaniel@NOSPAMtalbott.ws> writes:
Matt Armstrong [mailto:matt@lickey.com] wrote:
<nathaniel@NOSPAMtalbott.ws> writes:
Matt Armstrong [mailto:matt@lickey.com] wrote:
[#63288] break out of a loop — Vivek Nallur <nvivek@...>
[#63305] %L, %l revisited — Tom Sawyer <transami@...>
this is a general request for opinion/support. i, for one, would very much
Hi,
On Monday 03 February 2003 01:26 am, nobu.nokada@softhome.net wrote:
Hi,
Nobu,
Hi --
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On Wednesday 05 February 2003 02:44 pm, Hal E. Fulton wrote:
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On 2003.02.06, Tom Sawyer <transami@transami.net> wrote:
On Thu, Feb 06, 2003 at 08:45:16PM +0900, Dossy wrote:
On 2003.02.06, Mauricio Fern疣dez <batsman.geo@yahoo.com> wrote:
On 6 Feb 2003 at 6:44, Hal E. Fulton wrote:
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[#63310] Broken pipe (Errno::EPIPE) — Robert Feldt <feldt@...>
Hi,
[#63314] Ruby documentation in pdf-format — "Nicolay Vasiliev" <N.Vasiliev@...>
Hello!
[#63325] Parse bug when used from a library — Stefan Scholl <stesch@...>
I've written a library in C, which calls a ruby method via
[#63329] Re: Ruby Books -- A Question — "Sperberg, Roger" <roger.sperberg@...>
>>Anyone care to speculate
[#63341] ruby-dbi — Matthias Wieding-Drewes <Golgatha@...>
The question i have ist actually simple but yet i haven't found out:
[#63353] Overriding methods in inherited classes — Travis Whitton <whitton@...>
Hello all, I recently messed around with modifying Ruby's CGI class in order
[#63365] Pickaxe book — Jim <aa204@...>
Hi,
Re: The Year in Scripting Languages (Final Draft)
yes, sorry. I knew I should have even as I posted but since it was so long in my mind compared to 3 grafs, I just let it go. but here are some: - trim the URL section. IMO only links for the main site, Carrera & Pine tutes, ruby-talk, and the online pickaxe are needed. all the rest should go on a wiki or ruby-lang page somewhere and that can be linked to. - include a section header / description for every new paragraph. in particular, ruby development section, it's too hard to separate ideas if you're just skimming. - mention book publications, but magazine articles don't need to be mentioned. these are at the website and easy to find. unless you're going to link to their online forms (which just adds length and I dont recommend), it doesn't serve any purpose since I'm sure most of the languages save Lua had articles in the same or similar publications. - cut the mailing list paragraph. include the link to the ruby-lang page for the ML, but that's it. the rest can be found at the site if ppl are interested beyond the article. no one outside the community cares that we have lists beyond general discussion, every language has those. - cut the ruby garden graf altogether, or at least to one brief sentence. link yes, then maybe say it is a unique collaborative homepage for all things ruby. - trim the ruby graf to saying, ok there was a conference, here were the 3 major presentations, include the link. otherwise it's not interesting to external readers. - IMO, calls for documentation are done inside the community. why would someone from perl community who has only marginally heard/used ruby want to document it? even within the community, documentation is usually a self-initiated process. ok those are my major issues. I still think ruby development section is too wordy tho it's pretty concise as is. maybe just choose the really important stuff, even if it hurts to cut something. I like the grafs the size of Martin's capsules on the wiki. those seemed just right. even if the section stayed the same length but was broken up into grafs that size, that would be an improvement b/c skimmers could decide easier what was of interest to them personally. you did a good job, I am not complaining about the overall effort. :) I just don't want to bore anyone outside of the community. we should provoke interest with major features/projects/developments in the email, not lay out the history of the past year in great detail. for example, just say the windows version is now native, no need to list the compiler business. there are a couple other things like that, too, if you have time to be laser-like in editing. brennan On Wednesday, January 8, 2003, at 06:09 PM, Lyle Johnson wrote: > Brennan Leathers wrote: > >> supposed to be 3 paragraphs. still way too long. > > Mitchell sent e-mail to the coordinators with the rough drafts from > Lua, Tcl and Perl; all of them were longer than three paragraphs as > well ;) But if you have any concrete suggestions about where to trim > the fat, now is the time to make them. >