From: Hugh Sasse Staff Elec Eng Date: 2003-01-16T21:12:48+09:00 Subject: Re: Ruby advocacy in sigs On Thu, 16 Jan 2003, Tom Sawyer wrote: > On Thursday 16 January 2003 03:47 am, Hugh Sasse Staff Elec Eng wrote: > > anyway, my point being that i don' think Ruby gets the attention it deserves > here in the states, simply because Rubyists tend to be too "enlightened" to > advocate their language over others. in other words, we're too nice. Fair point > > now i agree with you. without a doubt. but if we want Ruby to become a widely > used language then it needs to be "marketed", so to speak. and that means > telling people why it is better than other languages. and it is. you know it > and i know it. and we need to inform others of that. I think a "killer app" (an expression I dislike) would help too, of course :-) > > i mean really, telling people you like Ruby, but hey, Perl is just as > powerful, and Python really can do all that OO stuff, isn't going to perk too But we can turn this around, and show respect for heritage: It has the familiarity for Unix users and Perlists of regexp operators and implicit operations on $_ if you want that,, the OO benefits that Python has, of a clean syntax (even OO for regexps if you want that), , with a simplified but powerful inheritance model, the unit testing facilities of java, ..., ... all in the one language. > much attention or win too many converts. and that's really ashame, becasue > Ruby really is an amazing language, and it would be nice if a lot more people > were developing for it. Agreed > > -- > tom sawyer, aka transami > transami@transami.net > Hugh