From: "Daniel P. Zepeda" Date: 2003-01-11T14:16:35+09:00 Subject: Re: Why Fox On Sat, 11 Jan 2003 11:56:37 +0900 Daniel Carrera wrote: >> It is *not* difficult to install if you read the docs and follow some >> simple instructions. It took me less than 1/2 hour to install it on a new>> Linux system just the other day. Maybe it is hard for someone with no>> Linux experience, > Please don't assume that I don't have any Linux experience. I've been > using Linux and Unix as my sole OS for 5 years. I love tinkering with > the system and I generally install from source. I assure you that I'm > familiar with the ./configure; make; make install. My complaint is that > it doesn't work on the systems I've tried. I didn't assume that. I merely made the statement that the old 'configure, make, make install' might be harder for those with no Linux experience. Actually, the 'read the docs' part was more the operative phrase in that paragraph. You were the guy that was having problems with the RPMs originally weren't you? I believe Lyle pointed you in the direction of installing from source IIRC. Actually, I'm rather surprised that you had such hard time with the 'configure;make;make install' routine on the systems you have tried. I've done that routine on several distros with no problems, Ok, minor problems, that reading the docs made a 'no problem.' I *did* have to jump through hoops trying to install RPMs on Mandrake, and ended up with an unstable system that crashed my apps regularly. Installing from source cured that. > > I've no experience using GTK, nor the newer Qt bindings available for > > Ruby so I can't compare them, but I'd bet they'd lose on the speed, > > 'look-and-feel' front too. > > You shouldn't make that statement if you don't have that experience. My > experience with Ruby/Gtk was better on both accounts. I wasn't (and I'm > not) trying to push any given toolkit. I was asking a question. You are right on that score of course. Should have kept my mouth shut where I didn't know what I was talking about. > > > I'll tell you why *I* use FOX/Ruby: They are a *joy* to code in! > > ... and the License is right. Qt, you have to pay a ton for a Windows > > license, Tk, looks Ok, but it's API is horrid... and WxWindows, well, > > again, the API isn't so cool as FOX and the cross-platform widget > > problems are there and aren't they going the way of FOX anyhow? > > Thank you for the input. This explanation is more along the lines of > what I was looking for. Good, I'm glad I could help. > > > Daniel Carrera > Graduate Teaching Assistant. Math Dept. > University of Maryland. (301) 405-5137 > > > Hope this helps, > > D > > > > > > > > > > I'm sure that there is a very good reason for choosing Fox. I just > > > want to know what it is. > > > > > > Thanks a lot. > > > > > > Daniel Carrera > > > Graduate Teaching Assistant. Math Dept. > > > University of Maryland. (301) 405-5137 > > > > > > > > > -- > > "Daniel P. Zepeda" > > (Remove commas for address) > > > > > -- "Daniel P. Zepeda" (Remove commas for address)