[#20651] Changing a program's name at run time via $0... — Sean Chittenden <sean-ruby-talk@...>
Anyone have any ideas how to change a program's name while it's
[#20675] RCR: non-bang equivalent to []= — Tobias Reif <tobiasreif@...>
Hi,
Hello --
Hi David,
I wrote:
--- Tobias Reif <tobiasreif@pinkjuice.com> wrote:
Kevin,
>>>>> "T" == Tobias Reif <tobiasreif@pinkjuice.com> writes:
--- ts <decoux@moulon.inra.fr> wrote:
Hello --
[#20680] Re: Do we about sub-second [amc]time on files? — "Brian F. Feldman" <green@...>
Oh yeah, and addresses for the specific diffs I've made:
[#20683] eruby 0.9.6 doesn't work with ruby 1.7.1 — Aleksi Niemel<aleksi.niemela@...>
I can't make eruby 0.9.6 work with ruby 1.7.1. It works fine with ruby
>>>>> "A" == Aleksi Niemel=E4?= <iso-8859-1> writes:
[#20701] ANN: Ruby/Mock 1.0 — "Nat Pryce" <nat.pryce@...13media.com>
I mentioned this in another thread, but thought I would announce it properly
[#20715] oreilly buch von matz - website online — markus jais <info@...>
hi
Actually, thanks for posting it here. I was trying to search OReilly's
Hi,
On Mon, 3 Sep 2001, Phil Tomson wrote:
> |> Oh, no. Last time I asked them sheep, they gave me goat. This time
Hi,
> |I understand, but let's look at it the other way:
[#20721] Possible typo bug? — Christopher Sawtell <csawtell@...>
Hi,
[#20730] Nightly CVS tarball? — Wai-Sun Chia <waisun.chia@...>
Hello Rubyists,
[#20747] how update anonymous classes? — "Henning von Rosen" <henning@...>
Hi!
[#20768] Minor cgi.rb question — "Hal E. Fulton" <hal9000@...>
I don't have much experience with
[Hal E. Fulton]
[#20770] Calling member methods from C++ — jglueck@... (Bernhard Glk)
Some quetsions have been solved for me, but my message system does not
[#20790] singleton help — Albert Wagner <alwagner@...>
I need some help with a singleton class.
[#20820] Ruby/Tk core dump — Harry Ohlsen <harryo@...>
I asked someone at uni to install Ruby for me, so I could use it for an
[#20822] Converting String to Symbol? — "Florian G. Pflug" <fgp@...>
Hi
[#20840] modify hash during iteration — Tomas Brixi <brixi@...>
Hello
[#20882] newbie question — Pat Eyler <pate@...>
Hello all,
[#20902] RubyConf registration is now open: sign up today! — Dave Thomas <Dave@...>
[#20907] Problem with druby related to TCPServer implementation on linux — Christian Boos <cboos@...>(by way of Christian Boos <cboos@...>)
Hello all,
[#20908] Removing singleton methods and instance variables - how ? — "Aristarkh A Zagorodnikov" <xm@...3d.ru>
Hi,
[#20937] trouble loading self-compiled extension in cygwin. — Matthias Lampert <ml@...>
Hello, folks!
I need to get the OpenGL module from the RAA working in a MS-Windows
[#20940] calling original method in overrided method? — Henry House <hajhouse@...>
I don't like the default behavior of String#to_i and String#to_f to return
[#20947] Is Ruby/Tk being maintained? — Albert Wagner <alwagner@...>
I there an active maintainer of Ruby/Tk? I have posted a couple of problems
[#20965] creating lots of files — Joseph McDonald <joe@...>
[#20976] destructor — Frank Sonnemans <ruby@...>
Does Ruby have a destructor as in C++?
"Nat Pryce" <nat.pryce@b13media.com> writes:
[#20987] put my vote down for ruby-chan! — Christopher Taylor <ct@...>
i'd like to see ruby chan as the `offical mascot`
[#21013] length of Ruby array from C? — Neil Conway <nconway@...>
Hi all,
[#21054] Question about RAA listings — "JamesBritt" <james@...>
I'm putting together a web site devoted to Ruby and XML, and plan to include
[#21070] build minimal Ruby interpreter — Max Ischenko <max@...>
[#21104] Ruby-GTK / Ruby-glade problems — Craig Files <Craig_Files@...>
We are very interested in using Ruby/LibGlade for a project, but in
[#21131] Robocode (RubyBot - perhaps a way to introduce people to Ruby?) — ptkwt@...1.aracnet.com (Phil Tomson)
Slashdot has an article about a game called Robocode that teaches Java by
[#21168] The Parrot lives! — stephen.hill@... (Steve Hill)
Slashdot is reporting that Parrot 0.01 has been released. Oh joy ;-)
[#21169] GUI toolkits for windows — Alva <alv@...>
Hi all! I'm a Ruby newbie, but strongly feel that it will
[#21200] strange warnings from the parser? — Paul Brannan <pbrannan@...>
When I write code that does this:
[#21212] What's the best book — jmp@... (Jean-Marc Pennel)
.... to learn Ruby.
[#21216] OSX — bobh@... (Robert)
Any problems getting Ruby to compile on MacOS X? Did you have to add
[#21218] Ruby objects <-> XML: anyone working on this? — senderista@... (Tobin Baker)
Are there any Ruby analogs of these two Python modules (xml_pickle,
[#21224] Redefining constants — Johann Hibschman <johann@...>
Hi all,
[#21234] Ruby/GTK maintainer? — Neil Conway <nconway@...>
Hi all,
[#21236] alternate Download-Site of IOWA? — horibo@... (Horst Rischbode)
Hi,
[#21245] Embedding Q's — Johann Hibschman <johann@...>
Hi all,
[#21263] Exceptions and Ruby — Alva <alv@...>
Hi,
[#21268] Re: alternate Download-Site of IOWA? — "Julian Fitzell" <jfitzell@...>
Yeah, it would wouldn't it? :)
[#21291] Image libraries — Jimmy Thrasher <jjthrash@...>
Is anybody working on Ruby bindings for libpng or libgif?
[#21292] PC Magazine — Ryan Tarpine <rtarpine@...>
In the October issue of PC Magazine, in his Inside Track column John C.
[#21296] nested require files need path internally — Bob Gustafson <bobgus@...>
Version: 1.64
Hello --
On Tue, 18 Sep 2001, David Alan Black wrote:
Hi,
On Tue, 18 Sep 2001, Yukihiro Matsumoto wrote:
Hi,
> The big difference is C++ search done in compile time, Ruby search
Hi,
On Wed, 19 Sep 2001, Yukihiro Matsumoto wrote:
Hi,
On 19/09/2001 at 10:12 AM matz@ruby-lang.org wrote:
Hi,
On Wed, 19 Sep 2001, Yukihiro Matsumoto wrote:
Hi,
On Thu, 20 Sep 2001, Yukihiro Matsumoto wrote:
[#21315] Suggestions for new CGI lib — anders@... (Anders Johannsen)
From the comp.lang.ruby thread "Minor cgi.rb question" (2001-09-03), I
Hi,
Hallo,
[#21321] iowa and win98 — horibo@... (Horst Rischbode)
Hi,
On Tue, 18 Sep 2001, Horst Rischbode wrote:
[#21362] [Ann] JRuby - Ruby interpreter in Java — Jan Arne Petersen <japetersen@...>
Hello!
[#21377] How to tell if port is in use... — "Hal E. Fulton" <hal9000@...>
Hello all...
"Hal E. Fulton" wrote:
[#21378] Path walking on windows — Ed Sinjiashvili <edsin@...>
Hi,
[#21387] Segfault: ruby 1.7.1 (2001-09-08) during mod_ruby-0.9.3 build — Wai-Sun Chia <waisun.chia@...>
[root@caspar root]# ruby -v
[#21413] Ruby/objects book in style of The Little Lisper — Brian Marick <marick@...>
I fell in love with Lisp in the early 80's. Back then, I read a book called
On 20 Sep 2001 06:19:44 +0900, Brian Marick wrote:
--- Christopher Sawtell <csawtell@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
--- Mikkel Damsgaard <mikkel_damsgaard@mailme.dk> wrote:
On Sat, 22 Sep 2001, Kevin Smith wrote:
--- Todd Gillespie <toddg@mail.ma.utexas.edu> wrote:
On Sat, 22 Sep 2001, Kevin Smith wrote:
On Fri, 2001-09-21 at 21:47, Todd Gillespie wrote:
--- Brian Marick <marick@visibleworkings.com> wrote:
[#21431] RE: chain methods inside and outside the class; how to intermingle mine and Strings' methods? — "Frykholm, Niklas" <nfrykholm@...>
[Tobias Reif]
[#21454] Interaction system() / $stdout ? — Johan Holmberg <holmberg@...>
[#21499] Speed — David Tillman <dtillman@...>
[#21503] Trouble in native library... — Kero van Gelder <kero@...4050.upc-d.chello.nl>
[Mailed to both ruby-talk and ruby-dev]
[#21504] Replacement for __FILE__ == $0 — "Nathaniel Talbott" <ntalbott@...>
OK, this will probably end up being an RCR, but first I want to get some
--- Nathaniel Talbott <ntalbott@rolemodelsoft.com> wrote:
Kevin Smith [mailto:kevinbsmith@yahoo.com] wrote:
--- Nathaniel Talbott <ntalbott@rolemodelsoft.com> wrote:
[#21535] irb — Fabio <fabio.spelta@...>
Hello. :) I'm new here, and I have not found an archive of the previous
>>>>> "F" == Fabio <fabio.spelta@tiscalinet.it> writes:
> Do this command work, for you ?
>>>>> "F" == Fabio <fabio.spelta@tiscalinet.it> writes:
I've restored the original ext/setup file (and all the others) and recompiled:
>>>>> "F" == Fabio <fabio.spelta@tiscalinet.it> writes:
OK: I'm a nerd :-|
>>>>> "F" == Fabio <fabio.spelta@tiscalinet.it> writes:
[#21564] Returnin own C++ type from ruby method — jglueck@... (Bernhard Glk)
Hi there again!
[#21605] Please translate this easy snip of C++ to Ruby — Phlip <phlip_cpp@...>
Ruby Users:
[#21606] gtk on win32 — "Benoit Cerrina" <benoit.cerrina@...>
Hi,
[#21613] C++ / Ruby questions again — jglueck@... (Bernhard Glk)
Hi there again..
[#21616] opening a named pipe? — "Avdi B. Grimm" <avdi@...>
I'm having trouble reading from a named pipe in linux. basicly, I'm
On Unix, opening a FIFO will block the process until the other end is also
On Mon, 2001-09-24 at 05:14, Nat Pryce wrote:
[#21645] Ideal ruby browser? — Johann Hibschman <johann@...>
Hi folks,
[#21663] Problems with the mysql-module — Jens Rohde <jr@...>
Hi
Jens Rohde wrote:
On Tue, 25 Sep 2001, Michael Neumann wrote:
Jens Rohde <jr@eos.dk> writes:
[#21668] Help understanding self ... — Phil Mitchell <phil.$DELETEmitchell@...>
I'm defining a simple class that extends Hash. The code below works. What I don't understand is why I can't replace
Okay, but according to Ruby library reference, and pickaxe, [] is a method in class Hash. A method that is called with
[#21669] Ruby-win syntax coloring — "Henning von Rosen" <henning@...>
Ruby win is very convinient in some matters, f ex providing a protected zone
[#21685] manipulating "immutable" objects such as Fixnum from within callbacks & al... — Guillaume Cottenceau <gc@...>
Hello,
> Here's the problem: it happens often that you need to pass "references" to
On Wed, 26 Sep 2001, Joel VanderWerf wrote:
Here's an easy one:
[#21688] net/http problems on FreeBSD 4.4-RC — Jason DiCioccio <geniusj@...>
I'm having the following problems with Net::HTTP on ruby 1.6.4 (and 1.6.5) =
[#21733] Re: manipulating "immutable" objects such as Fixnum from within callbacks & al... — "Brian F. Feldman" <green@...>
ts <decoux@moulon.inra.fr> wrote:
>>>>> "B" == Brian F Feldman <green@FreeBSD.org> writes:
Fair enough, for some reason it didn't work for me. The first thing I
Hi,
[#21740] scope in {} and do-end — "Hal E. Fulton" <hal9000@...>
Question...
[#21744] Running ruby scripts suid-root — "Florian G. Pflug" <fgp@...>
Hi
[#21745] inheritance Surprise! — Bob Gustafson <bobgus@...>
I had a problem with an object which, once it was created, would morph into
On Thu, Sep 27, 2001 at 04:14:43AM +0900, Bob Gustafson wrote:
[#21746] Problems with Net stuff on Win2000/XP — carlyoungblood@... (Carl Youngblood)
Please! I don't have the time or expertise to dig through the ruby
[#21772] Transparent Proxies — jason@... (Jason Voegele)
Hello all,
[#21798] Ruby internal (guide to the source) — "Benoit Cerrina" <benoit.cerrina@...>
Hi,
> The part I'm not sure to understand to well is the relationship between a
Dear All,
What? You didn't write the script in Ruby, but in Perl? ~,^
It does need the environment for the time being, tonight, I'll add in
[#21818] Embedding — "Drirr C." <drirr@...>
Hello
[#21821] ANN: HtmlDomGenerator 0.1 — "Jimmy Thrasher" <jjthrash@...>
I just released HtmlDomGenerator, for those of you who want a DOM =
Hello --
> # You should have received a copy of the GNU General Public License
[ruby-talk:21701] strange behaviors
Hello,
In the process of a frighteningly productive spate of Ruby coding
today, I ran across some seeming quirks in the language. I'm curious
whether these are bugs, features, known eccentricities, or what, so I
thought I'd post them and see if anyone else is familiar with the
behaviors I encountered.
Quirk #1: Inconsistent name resolution in instance methods
Ruby looks up unqualified names it finds in method bodies in the
method list of 'self' - usually.
For example:
class Foo
def bar
@bar
end
def bar=(val)
@bar = val
end
def implicit_fetch
bar # Ruby interprets this as Foo#bar, defined above.
end
end
f = Foo.new
f.bar = "test 1 2 3"
puts f.implicit_fetch
This yields the expected response:
test 1 2 3
Ruby correctly interprets the bare reference to 'bar' as a call to
Foo.bar. However, this behavior doesn't hold true for 'setter'
methods. If I expand the class above thus:
class Foo
def bar
@bar
end
def bar=(val)
@bar = val
end
def implicit_assign
bar = "implicitly assigned" # doesn't call bar=()
end
def explicit_assign
self.bar = "explicitly assigned"
end
def implicit_fetch
bar
end
end
and then I exercise it:
f = Foo.new
f.implicit_assign # fails
puts f.implicit_fetch
f.explicit_assign # works
puts f.implicit_fetch
I get the following output:
nil
explicitly assigned
As far as I can tell, ruby is interpreting the
line
bar = "implicitly assigned"
to mean "assign the string on the right to a local variable named
'bar'". Unlike for the 'getter' method, Ruby doesn't interpret "bar ="
to mean "call the method of self named bar=()". This despite the fact
that calling "f.bar = some_string" /outside/ the class would result in
a call to bar=(). This was startling inconsistency at first; but
as you can see it's easily gotten around by explicitly referencing
"self.bar =" inside a method that wants to call bar=().
However, that's not the end of the story. While slightly more
cumbersome, the workaround above works fine - for public or protected
attributes. But what about private 'setter' methods? Private methods
*can't* be explicitly referenced via "self.method_name"; that's what
makes them private. So if I modify the above class to privatize
bar=(), I find that there's no way at all (that I know of) to access
it:
class Foo
def bar
@bar
end
def bar=(val)
@bar = val
end
private :bar=
def implicit_assign
bar = "implicitly assigned"
end
def explicit_assign
self.bar = "explicitly assigned"
end
def implicit_fetch
bar
end
end
f = Foo.new
f.implicit_assign
puts f.implicit_fetch
f.explicit_assign
puts f.implicit_fetch
the above code yields the error:
-:19:in `explicit_assign': private method `bar=' called for
#<Foo:0x4025e310> (NameError)
from -:31
nil
So, as far as I can tell, private setter methods are completely
inaccessible. This seems sub-optimal, but maybe I'm missing something.
Quirk #2: Constants aren't dynamically resolved
Apparently, each class gets it's own private copy of constants defined
within it, unlike class variables which are shared between parent and
child classes. This useful feature is demonstrated with the following
code:
class Parent
CONSTANT = "foo"
class Child < Parent
CONSTANT = "bar"
end
puts Parent::CONSTANT # prints "foo"
puts Child::CONSTANT # prints "bar"
So far, so good. However, when I assume that Ruby will dynamically
figure out which constant to use based on the class of self, I run
into trouble. E.g.:
class Parent
CONSTANT = "foo"
def Parent.implicit
CONSTANT # always resolves to Parent::CONSTANT
end
def Parent.explicit
self::CONSTANT # resolves dynamically
end
end
class Child < Parent
CONSTANT = "bar"
end
class Parent
CONSTANT = "foo"
def Parent.implicit
CONSTANT
end
def Parent.explicit
self::CONSTANT
end
end
class Child < Parent
CONSTANT = "bar"
end
puts Child.implicit # prints "foo"
puts Child.explicit # prints "bar"
The implicit internal reference to CONSTANT always yields the value of
CONSTANT for the class in which the current method was defined. To
get the value of CONSTANT for the current class, I must explicitly ask
for it with self::CONSTANT.
Again, this is just a minor annoyance; but it seems to go against the
Principle of Least Surprise.
Anyone have any comments on either of these two quirks?
- Avdi Grimm