[#118612] OS X Tiger still including ruby 1.6 — Carl Youngblood <carl.youngblood@...>

I'm not sure who to talk to about this, but in my correspondence with

17 messages 2004/11/01

[#118651] symbol solver.. early experiments — Simon Strandgaard <neoneye@...>

Hi,

11 messages 2004/11/01

[#118675] fastcgi performance problems and ruby — andrew.stuart@...

Hello

16 messages 2004/11/02

[#118679] US Presidential Election — "trans. (T. Onoma)" <transami@...>

Election Day is upon us!

135 messages 2004/11/02
[#118681] Re: [OT] US Presidential Election — James Britt <jamesUNDERBARb@...> 2004/11/02

trans. (T. Onoma) wrote:

[#118690] Re: [OT] US Presidential Election — Ara.T.Howard@... 2004/11/02

On Tue, 2 Nov 2004, trans. (T. Onoma) wrote:

[#118696] Re: [OT] US Presidential Election — Logan Capaldo <logancapaldo@...> 2004/11/02

I am neither a Kerry or Bush supporter. Idealy I would vote

[#118734] Re: [OT] US Presidential Election — Richard Kilmer <rich@...> 2004/11/02

Bush, with conviction ;-)

[#118744] Re: [OT] US Presidential Election — Thomas Kirchner <lists@...> 2004/11/02

On Tue, Nov 02, 2004 at 09:18:12PM +0900, Richard Kilmer wrote:

[#118836] From getoptlong to optparse — Massimiliano Mirra - bard <mmirra@...>

15 messages 2004/11/02

[#118863] Programmatically and dynamically catching exceptions — Logan Capaldo <logancapaldo@...>

Allright here was my idea which seems to have been shattered by the

13 messages 2004/11/03

[#118965] Ruby Package for MacOS X — Mark Hubbart <discordantus@...>

Hi all,

11 messages 2004/11/04

[#118970] Ruby and civil political discussion? (Re: [OT] US Presidential Election) — "Dave Burt" <burtdav@...>

"David Morton" <mortonda@gmail.com> wrote:

18 messages 2004/11/04

[#118988] rails: gem install rails is bombing — "J. D." <jd@...>

Hi,

11 messages 2004/11/04
[#118994] Re: rails: gem install rails is bombing — David Heinemeier Hansson <david@...> 2004/11/04

> I'm running into a problem installing rails using gem. How do I fix

[#118997] Ruby BitTorrent — (Curne) Simon Conrad-Armes <curne@...>

Has anybody started a Ruby BitTorrent transfer library? I wanted to

13 messages 2004/11/04

[#119059] Will ActiveRecord support Berkeley DB? — "J. D." <jd@...>

Hi,

13 messages 2004/11/04

[#119111] FastCGI parameters (get and post) — "J. D." <jd@...>

Hi,

21 messages 2004/11/04
[#119114] Re: FastCGI parameters (get and post) — Kent Sibilev <ksibilev@...> 2004/11/04

GET parameters you have to parse from ENV['QUERY_STRING'].

[#119117] Re: FastCGI parameters (get and post) — "J. D." <jd@...> 2004/11/04

Kent Sibilev wrote:

[#119176] Re: FastCGI parameters (get and post) — Patrick May <patrick@...> 2004/11/05

[#119208] Re: FastCGI parameters (get and post) — MoonWolf <moonwolf@...> 2004/11/05

Patrick May wrote:

[#119275] Re: FastCGI parameters (get and post) — Patrick May <patrick@...> 2004/11/05

Quoting MoonWolf <moonwolf@moonwolf.com>:

[#119289] Re: FastCGI parameters (get and post) — gabriele renzi <rff_rff@...> 2004/11/05

Patrick May ha scritto:

[#119357] Re: FastCGI parameters (get and post) — Patrick May <patrick@...> 2004/11/06

[#119358] Re: FastCGI parameters (get and post) — Ara.T.Howard@... 2004/11/06

On Sun, 7 Nov 2004, Patrick May wrote:

[#119132] recursive brace matching with Ruby regexp — Jason Sweat <jason.sweat@...>

I wanted to learn Ruby, so I picked a small task of trying to write a

19 messages 2004/11/05
[#119149] Re: recursive brace matching with Ruby regexp — Mark Hubbart <discordantus@...> 2004/11/05

Hi,

[#119161] Re: recursive brace matching with Ruby regexp — James Edward Gray II <james@...> 2004/11/05

On Nov 4, 2004, at 8:04 PM, Mark Hubbart wrote:

[#119148] Ruby 1.4.6 - trouble with require path — primehalo@... (Ken Innes)

I inherited a project that uses Ruby 1.4.6 on a RedHat Linux 6.1J. I

12 messages 2004/11/05

[#119168] value provided for argument with default value - how to check inside method? — "itsme213" <itsme213@...>

Is there an equivalent of block_given? to check if the caller provided a

16 messages 2004/11/05

[#119223] GEDCOM Parser (#6) — Ruby Quiz <james@...>

The three rules of Ruby Quiz:

40 messages 2004/11/05
[#119224] Re: [QUIZ] GEDCOM Parser (#6) — Jim Menard <jimm@...> 2004/11/05

> <gedcom>

[#119371] Documenting accessor methods as methods — James Britt <jamesUNDERBARb@...>

I sometimes use the method definition shorthand 'attr_reader',

29 messages 2004/11/06
[#119373] Re: [RDOC] Documenting accessor methods as methods — Gavin Kistner <gavin@...> 2004/11/07

On Nov 6, 2004, at 4:23 PM, James Britt wrote:

[#119386] Re: [RDOC] Documenting accessor methods as methods — Dave Thomas <dave@...> 2004/11/07

[#119406] Re: [RDOC] Documenting accessor methods as methods — James Britt <jamesUNDERBARb@...> 2004/11/07

Dave Thomas wrote:

[#119417] Re: [RDOC] Documenting accessor methods as methods — Dave Thomas <dave@...> 2004/11/07

[#119428] Re: [RDOC] Documenting accessor methods as methods — James Britt <jamesUNDERBARb@...> 2004/11/07

Dave Thomas wrote:

[#119432] Re: [RDOC] Documenting accessor methods as methods — Sam Roberts <sroberts@...> 2004/11/07

Quoteing jamesUNDERBARb@neurogami.com, on Mon, Nov 08, 2004 at 04:26:26AM +0900:

[#119439] Re: [RDOC] Documenting accessor methods as methods — James Britt <jamesUNDERBARb@...> 2004/11/07

Sam Roberts wrote:

[#119535] rdoc and vim folding — "Ara.T.Howard" <Ara.T.Howard@...>

24 messages 2004/11/08
[#119540] Re: rdoc and vim folding — Dave Thomas <dave@...> 2004/11/08

[#119543] Re: rdoc and vim folding — Hans Fugal <hans@...> 2004/11/09

Dave Thomas wrote:

[#119545] Re: rdoc and vim folding — "Ara.T.Howard" <Ara.T.Howard@...> 2004/11/09

On Mon, 8 Nov 2004, Hans Fugal wrote:

[#119597] One-Click Installer 1.8.2-14 RC9 with RubyGems built-in — "Curt Hibbs" <curt@...>

This release candidate of the One-Click Installer for

22 messages 2004/11/09

[#119598] RedCloth 3.0.0 -- Textile and Markdown Elope! — why the lucky stiff <ruby-talk@...>

RedCloth 3 is out. You know? RedCloth? Perhaps you've heard of it.

14 messages 2004/11/09

[#119607] Iterating trough hash — Kevin =?ISO-8859-15?Q?B=F6rgens?= <kevin@...>

Hi!

19 messages 2004/11/09

[#119685] new spam at the wiki — Edwin Eyan Moragas <haaktu@...>

been checking my pages and it looks like we've got a new spammer on board.

41 messages 2004/11/10
[#119708] Re: new spam at the wiki — Jim Weirich <jim@...> 2004/11/10

On Wednesday 10 November 2004 02:00 am, Edwin Eyan Moragas wrote:

[#119748] Re: new spam at the wiki — Asfand Yar Qazi <see@...> 2004/11/10

Jim Weirich wrote:

[#119754] Re: new spam at the wiki — Henrik Horneber <ryco@...> 2004/11/10

Asfand Yar Qazi wrote:

[#119756] Re: new spam at the wiki — Charles Comstock <cc1@...> 2004/11/10

[#119796] A Wiki/Spam Report — "Jim Weirich" <jim@...> 2004/11/10

Hello all.

[#119895] Re: A Wiki/Spam Report — Ben Giddings <bg-rubytalk@...> 2004/11/11

Jim Weirich wrote:

[#119911] Re: A Wiki/Spam Report — gabriele renzi <rff_rff@...> 2004/11/11

Ben Giddings ha scritto:

[#119935] Re: A Wiki/Spam Report — "Jim Weirich" <jim@...> 2004/11/11

[#119799] array.each restart when array is changed — Kevin =?ISO-8859-15?Q?B=F6rgens?= <kevin@...>

Hi!

18 messages 2004/11/10

[#119825] Arachno users? — "itsme213" <itsme213@...>

Any Arachno IDE users out there? Do you mind sharing your opinion of the

16 messages 2004/11/11
[#119908] Re: Arachno users? — Wayne Vucenic <nightphotos@...> 2004/11/11

I've been programming in Ruby for 3 years, and using ArachnoRuby for

[#119826] ruby idiom for attribute definition? — "Corey" <corey_s@...>

19 messages 2004/11/11

[#119878] Thinking About Java Interfaces In Ruby — James Edward Gray II <james@...>

I'm currently reading "Holub on Patterns", an excellent volume on

18 messages 2004/11/11

[#119974] warning: redefining Object#initialize may cause infinite loop — Stu <ceaser@...>

12 messages 2004/11/12

[#120037] Copland to Needle article on RubyGarden — Chad Fowler <chadfowler@...>

For those not subscribed to RubyGarden's rss feed[1], Jamis Buck has

35 messages 2004/11/12
[#120214] Re: [ANN] Copland to Needle article on RubyGarden (LONG) — Joel VanderWerf <vjoel@...> 2004/11/13

Chad Fowler wrote:

[#120431] Starter question on Test::Unit — Mohammad Khan <mkhan@...> 2004/11/15

Hello,

[#120056] Countdown (#7) — Ruby Quiz <james@...>

The three rules of Ruby Quiz:

26 messages 2004/11/12

[#120061] why does rss/maker not raise errors? — Sam Roberts <sroberts@...>

There are lots of mandatory attributes (yes, which are mandatory is

26 messages 2004/11/12
[#120133] bug: rss/maker is requiring <image> for rss/0.9 — Sam Roberts <sroberts@...> 2004/11/13

It says it is optional here:

[#120071] assert — "itsme213" <itsme213@...>

I could not find a standard "assert" in Ruby. Is there one?

29 messages 2004/11/12

[#120248] Dynamic define_method on class creation per module namespace — "trans. (T. Onoma)" <transami@...>

Here's a wee challenge for Rubyists at large. Consider:

12 messages 2004/11/14

[#120261] Countdown (#7) — Dennis Ranke <dennis.ranke@...>

Hi, here is my second solution for this very interesting quiz.

15 messages 2004/11/14

[#120271] Ruby in the enterprise... — "Wood, Jeff" <jeffwood@...>

Hello all,=20

14 messages 2004/11/14

[#120299] OpenStruct#update ? — "trans. (T. Onoma)" <transami@...>

How 'bout an OpenStruct#update for adding values after initialization. Or is

72 messages 2004/11/14
[#120306] Re: OpenStruct#update ? — "trans. (T. Onoma)" <transami@...> 2004/11/14

On Sunday 14 November 2004 03:42 pm, trans. (T. Onoma) wrote:

[#120337] Re: OpenStruct#update ? — Yukihiro Matsumoto <matz@...> 2004/11/14

Hi,

[#120355] Re: OpenStruct#update ? — "trans. (T. Onoma)" <transami@...> 2004/11/15

On Sunday 14 November 2004 06:16 pm, Yukihiro Matsumoto wrote:

[#120395] Re: OpenStruct#update ? — Florian Gross <flgr@...> 2004/11/15

trans. (T. Onoma) wrote:

[#120401] Kernel#singleton_class (was: Re: OpenStruct#update ?) — "David A. Black" <dblack@...> 2004/11/15

Hi --

[#120405] Re: Kernel#singleton_class — Florian Gross <flgr@...> 2004/11/15

David A. Black wrote:

[#120407] Re: Kernel#singleton_class — "David A. Black" <dblack@...> 2004/11/15

Hi --

[#120446] Re: Kernel#singleton_class — Yukihiro Matsumoto <matz@...> 2004/11/15

Hi,

[#120449] Re: Kernel#singleton_class — "trans. (T. Onoma)" <transami@...> 2004/11/15

On Monday 15 November 2004 12:28 pm, Yukihiro Matsumoto wrote:

[#120380] Arachno Ruby 0.3 (patch 2) — Lothar Scholz <mailinglists@...>

Hello,

16 messages 2004/11/15

[#120485] rpa-base 0.2.3 — Mauricio Fern疣dez <batsman.geo@...>

15 messages 2004/11/15
[#120516] Re: [ANN] rpa-base 0.2.3 — Matt Armstrong <matt@...> 2004/11/16

[#120626] Re: [ANN] rpa-base 0.2.3 — Mauricio Fern疣dez <batsman.geo@...> 2004/11/17

On Tue, Nov 16, 2004 at 02:08:23PM +0900, Matt Armstrong wrote:

[#120573] Can't Build Ruby 1.8.1 on HP-UX 11.00 — Kevin Hinners <kevin.hinners@...>

I've downloaded the stable 1.8.1 release of Ruby. When I attempt to run make

21 messages 2004/11/16
[#120574] Re: Can't Build Ruby 1.8.1 on HP-UX 11.00 — Yukihiro Matsumoto <matz@...> 2004/11/16

Hi,

[#120577] Re: Can't Build Ruby 1.8.1 on HP-UX 11.00 — Kevin Hinners <kevin.hinners@...> 2004/11/16

Top segment of mkmk.log:

[#120582] Re: Can't Build Ruby 1.8.1 on HP-UX 11.00 — Yukihiro Matsumoto <matz@...> 2004/11/16

Hi,

[#120609] Ruby to C to another language (perhaps Java (I Don't Need JRuby)) — Zach Dennis <zdennis@...>

This posting is more for a learning thing then anything else at this

10 messages 2004/11/17

[#120727] About Regular Expressions — Nikolai Weibull <mailing-lists.ruby-talk@...>

Lately there have been a bunch of posts on this list about regular

31 messages 2004/11/18
[#120739] Re: About Regular Expressions — "trans. (T. Onoma)" <transami@...> 2004/11/18

On Thursday 18 November 2004 05:34 am, Nikolai Weibull wrote:

[#120745] Re: About Regular Expressions — Nikolai Weibull <mailing-lists.ruby-talk@...> 2004/11/18

* trans. (T. Onoma) <transami@runbox.com> [Nov 18, 2004 14:10]:

[#120764] Re: About Regular Expressions — "trans. (T. Onoma)" <transami@...> 2004/11/18

On Thursday 18 November 2004 09:26 am, Nikolai Weibull wrote:

[#120754] postgres-pr (pure Ruby PostgreSQL) — Michael Neumann <mneumann@...>

Hi,

30 messages 2004/11/18
[#120772] Re: [ANN] postgres-pr (pure Ruby PostgreSQL) — David Ross <dross@...> 2004/11/18

Michael Neumann wrote:

[#120870] Re: [ANN] postgres-pr (pure Ruby PostgreSQL) — David Garamond <lists@...6.isreserved.com> 2004/11/19

David Ross wrote:

[#120877] Re: [ANN] postgres-pr (pure Ruby PostgreSQL) — Mauricio Fern疣dez <batsman.geo@...> 2004/11/19

On Fri, Nov 19, 2004 at 04:42:36PM +0900, David Garamond wrote:

[#120872] mission critical Ruby? — Mark VanOrman <mark@...>

Hi all,

14 messages 2004/11/19

[#120890] Object Browser (#8) — Ruby Quiz <james@...>

The three rules of Ruby Quiz:

65 messages 2004/11/19
[#121006] Re: [SOLUTION] Object Browser (#8) — "R. Mark Volkmann" <mark@...> 2004/11/22

I'm new to using gems. Can you tell me the command I need to run to get

[#121093] Object Browser (#8) — Brian =?ISO-8859-15?Q?Schr=F6der?= <ruby@...> 2004/11/23

Hello Group,

[#121357] Re: [Solution] Object Browser (#8) — Brian =?ISO-8859-15?Q?Schr=F6der?= <ruby@...> 2004/11/25

So I took some time and refactored my solution. It now has a modular and extendible structure (at least I hope so). It should be possible to easily write non-gtk ui's and extend the reporting capabilities.

[#120940] Inner Class Relationship — James Edward Gray II <james@...>

I have an inner class that needs to send it's parent object (outer

24 messages 2004/11/20
[#120946] Re: Inner Class Relationship — Francis Hwang <sera@...> 2004/11/20

Since you haven't said much about how you're using this, maybe my

[#120947] Re: Inner Class Relationship — James Edward Gray II <james@...> 2004/11/21

On Nov 20, 2004, at 5:55 PM, Francis Hwang wrote:

[#120952] Re: Inner Class Relationship — Francis Hwang <sera@...> 2004/11/21

[#120961] Windows - calling system with multiple parms — colotechpro@... (John Reed)

I'm having a problem getting a system call to Windows XP to work. I

13 messages 2004/11/21

[#121015] Some progress but have hit a new error working through the Todo tutorial... Anyone recognize it? — "Abraham Vionas" <abe_ml@...>

The error is below. Ugh. But at least it works up to this point. I don't

12 messages 2004/11/22
[#121016] Re: Some progress but have hit a new error working through the Todo tutorial... Anyone recognize it? — "Abraham Vionas" <abe_ml@...> 2004/11/22

Oh, whups. The state of the todo_controller.rb file that evokes this error

[#121026] Instiki problems — Ryco@...

Hi!

19 messages 2004/11/22
[#121031] Re: Instiki problems — Ryco@... 2004/11/22

Update:

[#121129] Re: Instiki problems — Ryco@... 2004/11/23

Hi!

[#121126] rails is awesome — Dick Davies <rasputnik@...>

46 messages 2004/11/23
[#121134] Re: rails is awesome — David Heinemeier Hansson <david@...> 2004/11/23

> Couldn't help sending a big 'thank you' to DHH for Rails.

[#121194] Re: rails is awesome — Austin Ziegler <halostatue@...> 2004/11/23

On Tue, 23 Nov 2004 20:11:24 +0900, David Heinemeier Hansson

[#121196] Re: rails is awesome — David Heinemeier Hansson <david@...> 2004/11/23

> I haven't seen this myself, but from something said by others, it

[#121217] Re: rails is awesome — Austin Ziegler <halostatue@...> 2004/11/24

On Wed, 24 Nov 2004 07:01:17 +0900, David Heinemeier Hansson

[#121243] Re: rails is awesome — David Heinemeier Hansson <david@...> 2004/11/24

> Essentially, David, this is a *problem* with ActiveRecord.

[#121247] Re: rails is awesome — Gavin Sinclair <gsinclair@...> 2004/11/24

On Wednesday, November 24, 2004, 9:23:09 PM, David wrote:

[#121260] Re: rails is awesome — Austin Ziegler <halostatue@...> 2004/11/24

On Wed, 24 Nov 2004 19:48:18 +0900, Gavin Sinclair

[#121267] Other ORMs [was: rails is awesome] — Francis Hwang <sera@...> 2004/11/24

[#121271] Re: Other ORMs [was: rails is awesome] — George Moschovitis <gm@...> 2004/11/24

> do, maybe it's worth considering that ActiveRecord is not not the only

[#121274] Re: Other ORMs [was: rails is awesome] — Austin Ziegler <halostatue@...> 2004/11/24

On Wed, 24 Nov 2004 22:58:09 +0900, George Moschovitis <gm@navel.gr> wrote:

[#121275] Re: Other ORMs [was: rails is awesome] — Francis Hwang <sera@...> 2004/11/24

Austin, what DB are you using anyway? Dunno if I caught that in this

[#121173] Most popular wiki in Ruby seeks kind maintainer — David Heinemeier Hansson <david@...>

Okay, okay, okay. Instiki does need a new maintainer. At least a

12 messages 2004/11/23
[#121195] Re: Most popular wiki in Ruby seeks kind maintainer — Austin Ziegler <halostatue@...> 2004/11/23

On Wed, 24 Nov 2004 02:35:21 +0900, David Heinemeier Hansson

[#121210] Marshal vs. YAML vs. something else (Re: Most popular wiki in Ruby seeks kind maintainer) — Francis Hwang <sera@...> 2004/11/24

More generally, let me ask: What formats are people using to persist

[#121205] How to avoid inheriting Object? — "itsme213" <itsme213@...>

How do I create a class that does not inherit from Object?

17 messages 2004/11/24
[#121218] Re: How to avoid inheriting Object? — Austin Ziegler <halostatue@...> 2004/11/24

On Wed, 24 Nov 2004 10:29:09 +0900, itsme213 <itsme213@hotmail.com> wrote:

[#121227] editors/IDEs — Jamie Orchard-Hays <jamie@...>

I'm curious what people are favoring for editors and IDEs for Ruby.

21 messages 2004/11/24

[#121318] Ruby/DL tutorial — bjsp123@... (Benjamin Peterson)

Hi,

15 messages 2004/11/24

[#121381] Re: Ruby GUIs and installation effort — "bin liu" <ruby@3cn.com.cn>

I think one GUI system dos not depends others except ruby will bee more flexible.

19 messages 2004/11/25

[#121455] Using unit-tests as examples for a documentation — benny <listen@...>

dear list,

13 messages 2004/11/25

[#121468] oneclick installer, freeride — tony summerfelt <snowzone5@...>

anybody NOT developing the oneclick installer or freeride can skip

12 messages 2004/11/25

[#121506] Multiplexer - linear non-blocking I/O — Mikael Brockman <mikael@...>

Blocking I/O is really easy to use. But when you use it to write

32 messages 2004/11/26

[#121517] Banned Words (#9) — Ruby Quiz <james@...>

The three rules of Ruby Quiz:

29 messages 2004/11/26

[#121611] initialize always — "trans. (T. Onoma)" <transami@...>

It is rather a common occurrence that I find myself creating a mixin module

16 messages 2004/11/27

[#121647] One-Click Installer 1.8.2-14 RC10 — "Curt Hibbs" <curt@...>

This release is mainly in upgrade the included FreeRIDE

13 messages 2004/11/28

[#121730] Seeking advice on some method names — Gavin Sinclair <gsinclair@...>

Hi all,

28 messages 2004/11/29

[#121847] to_s, inspect, etc. — "itsme213" <itsme213@...>

Where would I find a nice summary of to_s, inspect, p, etc. and the core

16 messages 2004/11/29

[#121903] PHP vs. Ruby vs. Python (vs. Rails) — "Abraham Vionas" <abe_ml@...>

As I was falling asleep last night I was wondering about the differences in

15 messages 2004/11/30

[#121916] Python 2.4 released — Zach Dennis <zdennis@...>

A coworker of mine came and hollarred at me because on /. it mentioned

21 messages 2004/11/30

[#121936] Optional static typing (or, What can Ruby 2.0 borrow from Boo?) — djberg96@... (Daniel Berger)

Hi all,

23 messages 2004/11/30

[#121943] profile — "Joe Van Dyk" <joe.vandyk@...>

Hi,

24 messages 2004/11/30

[#121949] singleton methods : when are they not permitted? — "itsme213" <itsme213@...>

irb(main):025:0> x = :any

20 messages 2004/11/30
[#121956] Re: singleton methods : when are they not permitted? — Florian Gross <flgr@...> 2004/11/30

itsme213 wrote:

[#121970] Re: singleton methods : when are they not permitted? — Francis Hwang <sera@...> 2004/12/01

[#121975] Re: singleton methods : when are they not permitted? — Christoph <chr_mail@...> 2004/12/01

Francis Hwang schrieb:

FAQ for comp.lang.ruby

From: hal9000@...
Date: 2004-11-15 18:38:04 UTC
List: ruby-talk #120463
RUBY NEWSGROUP FAQ -- Welcome to comp.lang.ruby!  (Revised 2004-10-16)

This FAQ contains information for those who want to:

  1) learn more about Ruby, and want to 
  2) post to comp.lang.ruby or to the ruby-lang mail list, or want to
  3) provide anonymous feedback to help us improve Ruby.

This FAQ will be posted monthly. If you are reading the text version
via the mailing list or the newsgroup, note that you can find it on 
the web at: http://rubyhacker.com/clrFAQ.html

A German version of this FAQ is maintained by Josef "Jupp" Schugt. It can be 
found at: http://oss.erdfunkstelle.de/ruby/

Note that this is *not* the Ruby language FAQ! This can be found at:
http://www.rubygarden.org/iowa/faqtotum/

TABLE OF CONTENTS

    1 About Ruby
    1.1 What is Ruby?
    1.2 Where can I find out more about Ruby?
    2 About comp.lang.ruby.
    2.1 Tell me about comp.lang.ruby.
    2.2 Tell me the posting guidelines for comp.lang.ruby.
    2.3 Tell me about the prolific Matz poster.
    2.4 How do the mailing list and newsgroup interrelate?
    2.5 What are these 6-digit message numbers?
    2.6 What is "POLS"?
    3 Anything else?

1 About Ruby

1.1 What is Ruby?

    Ruby is a very high level, fully OO programming language. Indeed,
    Ruby is one of the relatively few pure OO languages. Yet despite
    its conceptual simplicity, Ruby is still a powerful and practical
    "industrial strength" development language.  

    Ruby selectively integrates many good ideas taken from Perl,
    Python, Smalltalk, Eiffel, ADA, CLU, and LISP. Ruby combines 
    these ideas in a natural, well-coordinated system that embodies 
    the principles of least effort and least surprise to a 
    substantially greater extent than most comparable languages -- 
    i.e., you get more bang for your buck, and what you write is more
    likely to give you what you expected to get.  Ruby is thus a 
    relatively easy to learn, easy to read, and easy to maintain 
    language; yet it is very powerful and sophisticated.  

    In addition to common OO features, Ruby also has threads,
    singleton methods, mixins, fully integrated closures and
    iterators, plus proper meta-classes.   Ruby has a true
    mark-and-sweep garbage collector, which makes code more reliable
    and simplifies writing extensions.  In summary, Ruby provides a
    very powerful and very easy to deploy "standing on the shoulders
    of giants" OO scaffolding/framework so that you can more quickly
    and easily build what you want to build, to do what you want to
    do.  
    
    You will find many former (and current) Perl, Python, Java, and
    C++ users on comp.lang.ruby that can help you get up to speed in
    Ruby.

    Finally, Ruby is an "open source" development programming
    language.  

1.2 Where can I find out more about Ruby?

    If you're into IRC, check out #ruby-lang on FreeNode. There are also 
    many web and print resources listed below:


    Ruby's home web site:
    
        http://www.ruby-lang.org/en/  (Ruby home page)

            Follow the links to documentation, downloads, the Ruby
            Application Archive, the Ruby mail list archives, and 
	    lots of other interesting information.  

    RubyForge (A major repository with hundreds of Ruby projects)

        http://rubyforge.org

    Ruby-Doc.org (A large source of Ruby documentation)
    
    RubyCentral.COM (Ruby's other major on-line docs and links site):
    
        http://www.rubycentral.com/  

    RubyCentral.ORG (Home of RubyCentral, Inc.)
    
        http://www.rubycentral.org/  

    RubyGarden (An important wiki site, very content-rich)

        http://rubygarden.org/

    Ruby FAQ: 
    
        http://www.rubygarden.org/iowa/faqtotum/

    Ruby User's Guide (introductory tutorial):

        http://www.ruby-lang.org/~slagell/ruby/

    _Why's Poignant Guide to Ruby (A Ruby tutorial on acid, featuring 
        cartoon foxes)

        http://poignantguide.net/ruby/


    Note: The list of books below is now frozen. I don't
    want to maintain this forever. We all hope the number
    of Ruby books increases, of course.

    English language Ruby books (recent publication order):

        Programming Ruby: A Pragmatic Programmers Guide
        2nd edition. See below.

        Making Use of Ruby
	by Suresh Mahadevan
	Wiley; ISBN 0-471-21972-X (2002)

        Teach Yourself Ruby in 21 Days
        by Mark Slagell
        Sams; ISBN: 0672322528 (March, 2002)

        Ruby Developer's Guide
        by Michael Neumann, Robert Feldt, Lyle Johnson
        Publishers Group West; ISBN: 1928994644 (February, 2002)

        The Ruby Way
        by Hal Fulton
        Sams; ISBN: 0672320835 (December, 2001)

        Ruby In A Nutshell
        by Yukihiro Matsumoto
        O'Reilly & Associates; ISBN: 0596002149 (November, 2001)

        Programming Ruby: A Pragmatic Programmers Guide
        by Dave Thomas and Andrew Hunt
        Addison Wesley; ISBN: 0201710897 (2000)
        (As of Sept 2004, there is a second edition also. It is
         not open-sourced at this time.)
        Online version: http://www.rubycentral.com/book/
	(Note that this is a *legal* first edition.)
        Download: 
	  http://www.pragmaticprogrammer.com/downloads/book.html
        Errata: 
	  http://www.pragmaticprogrammer.com/ruby/errata/errata.html

    German language Ruby books (author alpha order):

        Das Einsteigerseminar Ruby. Der methodische und 
        ausfrliche Einstieg.
        by Dirk Engel and Klaus Spreckelsen 
        ISBN: 3826672429

        Programmieren mit Ruby
        by Armin Roehrl, Stefan Schmiedl, Clemens Wyss, et al.
        dpunkt.de; ISBN 3898641511 (February, 2002)
	Online: http://www.approximity.com/rubybuch2/node1_main.html

        Programmieren mit Ruby. Handbuch f den pragmatischen 
        Programmierer.
	Dave Thomas & Andy Hunt
        Addison-Wesley, 2002; ISBN: 382731965X.
        A German translation of the "Pickaxe" (Programming Ruby).

	Pickaxe translation by Juergen Katins: 
	  http://home.vr-web.de/juergen.katins/ruby/buch/

    Search past postings to comp.lang.ruby or the ruby-lang mail list
    (which have been mirrored to each other since mid-2000):

        http://groups.google.com/groups?q=comp.lang.ruby
        http://blade.nagaokaut.ac.jp/ruby/ruby-talk/index.shtml

    Local Ruby users and groups in your area:

        http://www.pragprog.com/ruby?RubyUserGroups

2 About comp.lang.ruby

2.1 Tell me about comp.lang.ruby

    comp.lang.ruby was officially approved in early May, 2000. 
    (Conrad Schneiker, the former maintainer of this FAQ, was 
    responsible for the "net paperwork" of creating this group.)
    Here is the official charter:

        CHARTER: comp.lang.ruby

        The comp.lang.ruby newsgroup is devoted to discussions of the
        Ruby programming language and related issues.

        Examples of relevant postings include, but are not limited
        to, the following subjects:

        - Bug reports
        - Announcements of software written with Ruby
        - Examples of Ruby code
        - Suggestions for Ruby developers
        - Requests for help from new Ruby programmers

        The newsgroup is not moderated.  Binaries are prohibited
        (except the small PGP type). Advertising is prohibited (except
        for announcements of new Ruby-related products).

        END CHARTER.

2.2 Tell me the posting guidelines for comp.lang.ruby.

    (You should also follow these guidelines for the ruby-list mail
    list, since it is mirrored to comp.lang.ruby.) 

    (1) ALWAYS be friendly, considerate, tactful, and tasteful.  We
        want to keep this forum hospitable to the growing ranks of
        newbies, very young people, and their teachers, as well as
        cater to fire breathing wizards.  :-)

    (2) Keep your content relevant and easy to follow. Try to keep
        your content brief and to the point, but also try to include
        all relevant information.

        (a) The general format guidelines (aka USENET Netiquette) are
            matters of common sense and common courtesy that make life
            easier for 3rd parties to follow along (in real time or 
            when perusing archives):

            - PLEASE NOTE! Include quoted text from previous posts
              *BEFORE* your responses. And *selectively* quote as much
              as is relevant. 
            - Use *plain* text; don't use HTML, RTF, or Word. Most
              mail or newsreader programs have an option for this; if
              yours doesn't, get a (freeware) program or use a
              web-based service that does.
            - Include examples from files as *in-line* text; don't
              use attachments.

        (b) If reporting a problem, give *all* the relevant
            information the first time; this isn't the psychic friends
            newsgroup.  :-)  When appropriate, include:

            - The version of Ruby. ("ruby -v")
            - The compiler name and version used to build Ruby.
            - The OS type and level. ("uname -a")
            - The actual error messages.
            - An example (preferably simple) that produces the
              problem.

        (c) If reporting a bug, please copy (cc:) your post to:

                mailto:ruby-bugs@ruby-lang.org

            This will enter your report into the Ruby bug database.
            You can browse the database at:

                http://www.ruby-lang.org/cgi-bin/ruby-bugs

    (3) Make the subject line maximally informative, so that people
        who should be interested will read your post and so that people
        who wouldn't be interested can easily avoid it.  

        *Usefully* describe the contents of your post:

            This is OK: 
            
                "How can I do x with y on z?"
                "Problem: did x, expected y, got z."
                "BUG: doing x with module y crashed z."

            This is *NOT* OK:

                "Please help!!!"
                "Newbie question"
                "Need Ruby guru to tell me what's wrong"

	    These prefixes have become common for subject lines:

                ANN:  (for announcements)
	        BUG:  (for bug reports)
	        OT:   (for off-topic, if you must post off-topic)
    
    (4) Finally, be considerate: don't be too lazy. If you are
        seeking information, first make a reasonable effort to look it
        up. As appropriate, check the Ruby home page, check the Ruby
	FAQ and other documentation, use google.com to search past
        comp.lang.ruby postings, and so on.  

2.3 Tell me about the prolific Matz poster.

    Matz (aka Yukihiro Matsumoto) is the wizard who created Ruby for
    us, so be nice to him. He is very busy, so be patient when asking
    questions. See the Ruby home page to find out more about him and
    his work. I (Conrad Schneiker) founded comp.lang.ruby at his 
    suggestion. Contrary to lots of skepticism, it was approved on 
    the first attempt, with 200 yes votes.

2.4 How do the mailing list and newsgroup interrelate?

    The mailing list is older. When the newsgroup was created, they
    diverged. In mid-2001, Dave Thomas created a two-way gateway 
    that would "mirror" the newsgroup to the list and vice versa.
    (This was accomplished in 200 lines of Ruby code.) It is not 
    perfect; because of variability in the news feed, sometimes 
    messages are dropped or duplicated.

    The online archive of the mailing list therefore includes most
    of the traffic on the newsgroup, excluding the posts that were
    made before the creation of the gateway.

    Note: Spam or other inappropriate messages are NOT the 
    responsibility of Dave Thomas, who maintains the gateway. He
    does everything in his power to deal with this issue. Do NOT
    report spam to his ISP merely because the messages come from
    his server.

2.5 What are these 6-digit message numbers?

    Historically, every item on the mailing list had a subject
    starting with a string like: [ruby-talk:99999]

    The message numbers were convenient since they were strictly
    serial and formed a good way to refer to a past message. But
    they interfered with threading; Matz removed them after the
    matter was put to a vote in early 2002.

    The news header still refers to this number, should anyone
    wish to retrieve it. On the mailing list this number can
    now be found in the X-Mail-Count: header.

    You can point to a specific message by appending it onto the
    ruby-talk.com URL; i.e. http://ruby-talk.com/12345 will refer
    to message 12345.

2.6 What is "POLS"?

    POLS is an abbreviation for "Principle of Least Surprise" (also 
    called the Law of Least Astonishment).

    This term certainly did not originate in the Ruby community, but 
    it has been frequently used there -- even overused or abused at 
    times. After all, *every* language or software system seeks at 
    some level to adhere to this principle. Is any system designed 
    to be unintuitive?

    It is inappropriate to invoke POLS as a "magic word" when one's 
    individual expectations are not met. Ruby continues to evolve, 
    and Matz often makes changes based on people wishes, needs, or 
    suggestions. But he cannot be bribed or threatened. Make 
    suggestions if you wish, but think twice before mentioning POLS.


3. Anything else?

    If you are new to Ruby (or haven't previously taken the Ruby User
    Survey), please take a moment to anonymously tell us about your
    programming background and about your Ruby-related interests. The
    results will be reported back to the Ruby community from time to
    time. This helps us do a better job of helping each other, and to
    more effectively expand the Ruby community for our mutual benefit.
    The survey is at:

        http://dev.rubycentral.com/survey.html

    This FAQ was originally produced by Conrad Schneiker.
    It is now maintained by Hal Fulton (hal9000@hypermetrics.com).
    I'm interested in corrections and suggestions, but remember that
    the purpose of this FAQ is to be a brief and simple introduction
    for new comp.lang.ruby readers.  
    
    In closing, one of the reasons that Ruby was designed to be
    relatively simple, uniform, yet very powerful was to make serious
    programming (among other kinds) fun.  We hope you will help us
    keep comp.lang.ruby fun as well. Enjoy.  :-)

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