From: daniel cremer Date: 2004-11-02T21:05:16+09:00 Subject: Re: [OT] US Presidential Election On Tue, 2004-11-02 at 15:44 +0900, Hal Fulton wrote: > The main reason I'm answering is that I'm tired of keeping quiet. For more > months than I can count, I have felt surrounded by people (online and off) > who not only believed the opposite from me, but (which is the worst part) > *assumed* that I agreed with them. > Thanks Hal. I understand people's fear of this creating a division, However I must say that it helps me. I typically feel angry at Bush. Getting the opinion from intelligent people whom I respect, such as yourself, helps me understand what people are thinking. It doesn't change my mind, however it does calm the anger and engage me at an intellectual level. As for my own point of view.... As a US citizen who has lived abroad for a long time I've sampled information from various sources, and I simply believe that a lot of people in the US do not understand this "war on terror". I don't believe it's safe to portray a pure evil that is plotting against the USA. This is not because I doubt the existence of evil-doers but because it avoids many many key questions. Though there certainly are extremist leaders that do not deserve any compassion, you must ask yourself why is there a flow of people ready to blow themselves up amongst innocents or fight an ill-equipped battle against US troops that have vastly superior fire power ? Saddam loyalists are not the ones ready to lay their lives on the line. The people offering themselves as cannon fodder are idealists. Even though you may not like them, or their cause, one must ask why they wish to fight in the first place, and how come we fail to engage their sense of idealism. The people in charge of the foreign policy now are the same people who before let the Taliban take over in Afghanistan. They know more than they are willing to discuss. Portraying Kerry as a slime-ball is misleading when you consider the fact that you are faced with a government that simplifies everything until they can repeatedly drill it into everyones head with one line slogans. This is not conviction. It is avoiding questions. Questioning our policies is not a weakness but the strength on which democracy is built and should stand. Fighting terrorism is a challenge. However for me the challenge is not simply how much it's going to cost in human lives and billions of dollars, but how to fight the battle and where do we fight the battle. Guantanamo Bay, Abu Gharib, a huge deficit, the eroding of civil liberties, the continuous meddling of the government with it's citizens lives... these for me are the current wave of neo-conservatism, not the traditional conservatism that defines a great part of the US. I hope that when people vote they are aware of this. -Daniel