From: Curt Hibbs <curt@...>
Date: 2004-11-10T04:22:42+09:00
Subject: Re: [ANN] One-Click Installer 1.8.2-14 RC9 with RubyGems built-in

Austin Ziegler wrote:
>
> On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 03:40:03 +0900, Curt Hibbs <curt@hibbs.com> wrote:
> > Lothar Scholz wrote:
>
> > > I'm not sure if this is a good idea. I like to have many things
> > > included in the installer. I install ruby quite often and also on
> > > a lot of machines that don't have internet access.
> > >
> > > So i vote for having at least a good amout of batteries included.
> > I think you can have this both ways.
>
> > When you try to install a RubyGem, it first looks for it on your local
> > machine and if its not found it then looks at the remote repository.
>
> > You could easily create yourself a CD repository of the stuff
> you like to
> > install and let RubyGems install from there.
>
> > That being said, there will probably always be a certain core
> that is always
> > included (which would all the stuff that you cannot "uncheck" from he
> > install dialog).
>
> ...except that a lot of things aren't available as Gems (or RPA) and
> quite often the compiles don't work out of the box.
>
> I personally think that it's better for the installer to include a
> number of things -- possibly gems -- that will be optionally
> installed, but they should be included in the download package or as
> part of a "sumo" download package. There are times when I definitely
> wish there was a "batteries included" Firefox install -- usually when
> I'm having to get all the extensions that I liked so much onto a new
> or rebuilt machine.

I see your point.

I like the idea of a single, separate download package for
everything-but-the-kitchen-sink. It would still provide a nearly all-in-one
experience without pushing the main package to 50mb.  :-)

Curt