From: Dave Burt Date: 2004-11-26T05:47:57+09:00 Subject: Re: Ruby GUIs and installation effort "Alexander Kellett" : > On Nov 25, 2004, at 2:03 PM, Dave Burt wrote: >> I'm happy to leave the AWT/Swing debate to c.l.j; suffice it to say my >> view >> is Swing's API's far better designed (which is more important from >> toolkit >> user's perspective than how easy it is to port) > > not awt. swt. Goes to show I should have left the Java bit alone. >>> Anyway, I really don't think a real cross platform gui is possible. >> >> Why not? > > because to target mac os x, windows, gnome, or kde, > in *every* case you need an *entirely* different look > and feel. this just isn't possible with the standard > mechanisms used in gui creation. > > let me summarize: > layouts are *just too low-level* I disagree that they inherently are. Consider web applications as an example of how a platform-independent GUI spec can be loaded in the platform's look-and-feel. Mozilla's XUL browsers extend this idea into the realm of usable interface-building. It's possible. Cheers, Dave