From: "trans. (T. Onoma)" Date: 2004-11-13T05:41:22+09:00 Subject: #init The argument that #init should be available to end users like #id is very weak b/c 'id' is very common, especially in DB work (where it is essentially required). I have never had a need for my own #init, nor seen any other code that required such --i.e. made things troubling for the lack of it. The main point as to why #init is much better, is simply to do with saving time. Add up all the time you save typing those extra 6 characters. Lets say it takes you 1/2 second to type (give or take depending on how fast you type). In a year I would guess that I type 'initialize' multiple thousands of times, as I'm sure many Rubyists do. Well, for every 1200, that's nearly an hour of my life. Between a 100 Rubyists, that's 100 man hours wasted! Worse is when I've accidently mistyped it, which always happens somewhere in those last six characters. I mistype it maybe 1-2% of the time (I've gotton better at it over time). For each of those I waste a minute or two finding and fixing the typo. There goes another hour of my life (and many more total man hours for our Rubyists). 'initialize' is easily in the top 5 most typed ruby words, like 'def', 'if' and 'class'. Such words really ought to be short for this simple reason. T. P.S. Not to mention all the time spent by people thinking the above and then spending time to tell other people about it ;)